Meldric Taylor

Diehard Shogun · Post by **Diehard Shogun** » 26 Jul 2003, 00:35

Anyone else feel he would of had an amazing career if it wasn't for that bullshit stoppage by Steele in the Chavez fight?

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 26 Jul 2003, 01:38

No, that fight killed him. He would have had more fame. But the results would have been the same physically.

Jaclem · Post by **Jaclem** » 26 Jul 2003, 01:51

If you assume for the sake of argument that the stoppage was wrong(and I don't) and if he had won the decision there would have been a rematch in a relatively short time. He was a badly damaged fighter at the end of that fight, regrardless of who won the decision. He would not have been healed in time for a quick rematch, and chavez would have started in high gear sooner.

as someone else wrote on a different thread, this is classic case of a fighter being ruined on one match.

Diehard Shogun · Post by **Diehard Shogun** » 26 Jul 2003, 03:06

Too bad, he was amazing before and during that fight. Explosive speed.

But 2 seconds left in 12th round after her got up is a shitty thing to do to him when he was winning the fight up to that point.

TonyJ · Post by **TonyJ** » 26 Jul 2003, 15:45

Regardless if Taylor would have been given the decision or not he was a done fighter a from the punishment Chavez put him through in that fight.

jsc1973 · Post by **jsc1973** » 01 Aug 2003, 15:43

His career wasn't bad anyway.

Chavez took something out of him, but I've never agreed with the notion that it finished Taylor. He came back 10 months later and won the WBA welterweight title, defended it once and then tried to move up and fight Terry Norris, from whom he took another terrible beating. As I recall, the ref had to step in to save Taylor from even more punishment.

I think that's the fight that finished Meldrick Taylor, not the Chavez fight. And his promoters were stupid for making it in the first place; Chavez was smart enough to avoid Norris, who was a naturally larger man, and Taylor should have done the same.

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 01 Aug 2003, 15:52

Watch the HBO Special, Meldrick Taylor's speech was Slurred after the Chavez fight. That's convincing enough to me.

TonyJ · Post by **TonyJ** » 01 Aug 2003, 22:53

Chavez never avoided Norris, taylor was no Chavez, chavez had a better chin and would easly walk through Norris punches. Even at welter Chavez would have stopped Norris who had a glass chin.[/quote]

jsc1973 · Post by **jsc1973** » 02 Aug 2003, 23:05

Norris called out Chavez constantly during his reign as the 154-pound titlist and Julio's handlers never let it happen. Chavez would have been dumb enough to take it, and he'd have been KTFO'd in a hurry.

Actually, that was one reason I never really liked Norris. He was always calling out smaller guys like Taylor, Chavez and Pernell Whitaker to come up to 154 and face him, or beating up on a washed-up Leonard and then claiming he was p4p No. 1 in the world. But when Julian Jackson, who had whacked his ass on the way up, offered Norris a rematch, he ducked it.

Chavez was a great fighter, but he was never all that effective at 147, and wouldn't have been worth a sh*t at 154.

TonyJ · Post by **TonyJ** » 03 Aug 2003, 01:06

I thought he called him up to 147, chavez would have never have gone up to 154 thats out of the question but if they were to fight at 147 in their primes i garuantee chavez would not get KO'ed. Norris had a weak chin and even though chavez was not a one punch ko artist he would have enough to hurt and stop norris, Terry is not even in the same level as chavez and yes at 147 and both in their primes chavez would stop him.

TonyJ · Post by **TonyJ** » 03 Aug 2003, 01:15

When Chavez fought whitaker at 147 he was already well passed his prime but even at that if whitaker would have stayed their and fought he would have easly lost the fight, im not taking away anything from him i'll be honest he deserved the decision but that was the only time chavez fought at 147 that he was closes to his prime, the 2nd delahoya fight well i won't even go there. With that said i just can't see the glass chin norris being able to take chavez relentless pressure and heavyhands for the full 12 rds.

Freedom · Post by **Freedom** » 11 Aug 2003, 16:23

Bad stoppage or not Chavez took something very special
out of Meldrick Taylor, his motor skills.
Taylor could have made it to the final bell, but he
was done then and there when Steel stopped the fight.

jsc1973 · Post by **jsc1973** » 20 Aug 2003, 01:46

TonyJ wrote:I thought he called him up to 147, chavez would have never have gone up to 154 thats out of the question but if they were to fight at 147 in their primes i garuantee chavez would not get KO'ed. Norris had a weak chin and even though chavez was not a one punch ko artist he would have enough to hurt and stop norris, Terry is not even in the same level as chavez and yes at 147 and both in their primes chavez would stop him.

I think Don King offered Norris the fight at 147 at least once, and Norris wanted it at 154. Norris only wanted Chavez if he could rig the fight in his favor. Maybe he got some advice from Sugar Ray about that sort of thing after their fight.

TonyJ · Post by **TonyJ** » 20 Aug 2003, 02:28

Yhea it has to have been at 154 cause theirs noway Norris would have fought a prime Chavez even at 147 he may have talked about it but he knows he would have gotten his ass handed to him.

The reason he agreed to 154 is cause he knows Chavez would have never never gone up that high. I like Norris don't get me wrong but he would not last against a prime Chavez and thats nothing to be ashame chavez was just simply unbeatable in his prime.

Dancin' Dan · Post by **Dancin' Dan** » 23 Aug 2003, 16:15

Taylor was special fighter who just burned out early. Who the hell would have put a natural 140 pounder in with a big jr. middle? Not management that cared or thought he had anything left. Sad. In fact Taylor was only a featherweight in the Olympics.

Oh, go back and watch Whitaker vs Chavez... Whitaker never ran in that fight. In fact, he stood right in front of him turning him and easily outpointing him.

Chavez was great just didn't have the body for welter.

TonyJ · Post by **TonyJ** » 23 Aug 2003, 22:03

Thats true Whitaker was giving Chavez angles but their were times when he was back peddaling alot as well but anyway Norris won't fight the kind of fight the defensive master whitaker did, he would stand their toe to toe and bang and that will ultimatly be his down fall in a fight with Chavez(if they were to fight).

You make some good points D.ancin Dan

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