Marciano Links With The Mafia?

[Tyson KTFO 3 Times]

Today i was reading an article about Joe Calzaghe and his aims to go past Marcianos 49-0 record.

The person who wrote the article said something like "49-0 is what mariano did, but considering a large percentage where rigged by the mafia, Joe really has set himself a hard target."

Anyway, i have never heard any links about this before, and i wondered weather anyone else has.


For UK residents the article was in the daily express, next to the boring lewis article.

[Jaclem]

marciano's picture is on the wall in many scenes in the tv series THE SOPRANOS. He would feel at home with tony and the otrhers if he were still alive. I do not trust my nom de post enough to say any more.

there is no evidence that any of Marciano's fights were fixed, and I know all the rumors about some of them and they are false.

He was carefully matched, but all good managers do as well as they can in that department. Readers here know that I am no fan of marciano's but I am 100% certain thay he never engaged in a fixed fight, that all of his wins were legit, and I agree with the judges that he beat LaStarza in their first encounter.

There was a perfectly idiotic "article" I read years ago in Esquire magazine, I think, in which it was foolishly stated that Archie Moore tanked it in his fight with marciano. So stupid that it really doesn't merit comment....but I'll comment anyway. If Archie was going to throw that fight, he would NOT have thrown that bomb that put marciano on the floor. he would not have taken that pounding until he finally was too battered to get back up after the last knockdown.

If "they" were going to fix marciano's fights, why not go for one more to make the record an even 50-0?

p.s. that thud you just heard was tomato can hitting the floor when reading my DEFENDING marciano.

[wsbuf]

Floored me too Jaclem.
Another stereotype against Italians. Mafia types always wanted to be associated with Italian celebs. to the point of lying to say they knew them, etc. I hate that stereo type!!!
By the way whats this guys address, my uncle Vito wants to stop by and "say hello".

[Marciano Frazier]

Today i was reading an article about Joe Calzaghe and his aims to go past Marcianos 49-0 record.

The person who wrote the article said something like "49-0 is what mariano did, but considering a large percentage where rigged by the mafia, Joe really has set himself a hard target."

Anyway, i have never heard any links about this before, and i wondered weather anyone else has.


For UK residents the article was in the daily express, next to the boring lewis article.

The stupid mafia rumors just keep on spreading. Yes, the mob was connected to Marciano, and vice versa. What people don't realize is that ALL of the champions in those days were connected to the mob. Walcott's manager was a mobster! The mob was very heavily connected with the fight game back in those days. There was no way any heavyweight chamipon wouldn't encounter a lot of mobsters. However, Marciano was never involved with the mob in a business manner. He knew a lot of mobsters, as did Joe Louis, Walcott, Liston, nearly all the other champions around him. But none of his fights were fixes. There was actually one mobster, Frankie Carbo, who tried to get Marciano to take dives in several of his fights.

[Tyson KTFO 3 Times]

Today i was reading an article about Joe Calzaghe and his aims to go past Marcianos 49-0 record.

The person who wrote the article said something like "49-0 is what mariano did, but considering a large percentage where rigged by the mafia, Joe really has set himself a hard target."

Anyway, i have never heard any links about this before, and i wondered weather anyone else has.


For UK residents the article was in the daily express, next to the boring lewis article.

The stupid mafia rumors just keep on spreading. Yes, the mob was connected to Marciano, and vice versa. What people don't realize is that ALL of the champions in those days were connected to the mob. Walcott's manager was a mobster! The mob was very heavily connected with the fight game back in those days. There was no way any heavyweight chamipon wouldn't encounter a lot of mobsters. However, Marciano was never involved with the mob in a business manner. He knew a lot of mobsters, as did Joe Louis, Walcott, Liston, nearly all the other champions around him. But none of his fights were fixes. There was actually one mobster, Frankie Carbo, who tried to get Marciano to take dives in several of his fights.

OK ok i have never heard them before and i was only asking

[Marciano Frazier]

"The person who wrote the article "

Interesting name for an "author."

Tell "The person who wrote the article " to write his next one on the murderous branch of the muslims Ali was connected with.
(for starters, they killed Malcolm X, and a large group of women and children at a Washington DC Hanafi muslim home bankrolled by basketball player Abdul Jabbar. To this day Jabbar doesn't talk for publication about it---because he wants to stay alive).

Did the lovely muslims Ali was connected with visit Sonny Liston?

Did Sonny Liston forget how to fight?

Tell your "The person who wrote the article " to lend his "research" abilities to this project.

Terap, would you stop turning everything into an Ali-bashing session? I can understand you don't like Ali(HUGE understatement there), but could you PLEASE just make some posts that relate to the subject sometimes? Do you know anything about the sport besides negative things about Ali? If you do, please talk about that sometimes when that's what the subject is, and bash Ali in posts where it's appropriate. The board is not entitled "Ali bashing forum", so you can talk about other things sometimes when that's the appropriate topic.

[Marciano Frazier]

As usual, you are unable to comprehend the most obvous points.

Maricano was not mob connected. Al Weil was not a mob guy.

Meanwhile, if you are looking for a fighter who was connected to criminal scum who DID influence the outcome of some of his fights---look at Ali and the murderous branch of the muslims who managed him and ran his business.

The ridulous comment mentioned above about the Marciano-Moore fight came from Truman Gibson, who was Jim Norris' right hand man in the IBC.
From that I get the impression that Gibson didn't know much about boxing.

I saw the obvious point of your post. YOU missed the obvious point. The point is, you ought to talk about the subjet of the thread, not something completely unrelated. Whether Ali's fights were fixed by dirty characters or not has nothing to do with whether Marciano's were. I was saying I wish you would stick to the subject and stop sidetracking every conversation into something about how awful Ali was.

[Tyson KTFO 3 Times]

Another Thread Gone By the wayside

[Marciano Frazier]

Another Thread Gone By the wayside

Sorry, ty. :(

[Jaclem]

hey tyson...it's not so bad. your perfectly reasonable question got some good and defintive answers....and then it started in different directions, but by that time the original subject was discussed in full. so..the rest is just gravy...lumpy gravy perhaps....but it allowed for some spleen venting and god knows what woiuld happen to us if we kept all that stuff inside.






an erection is like an umbrella...it's better to have one when you don't need it than not to have one when you do.

[Vetteguy99]

Thank Goodness for old film.

The only fight of Rocky’s career that
might have gone either way was the first
Roland LaStarza fight, and that was very
early in his career.

He clearly won each of his other fights.