how about duran v chavez

thunderfromdownunder · Post by **thunderfromdownunder** » 27 Dec 2006, 04:53

R.Duran v J.C Chavez at either 135, 140 or 147

who wins?

tgchungmj · Post by **tgchungmj** » 27 Dec 2006, 05:19

Duran beats Chavez easily. wide UD or late round TKO maybe.

Duran is better than Chavez in almost everything --speed, power, elusiveness, cleverness, ferocity, technique, experience, footwork, defense and mobility.

Chavez has difficulty in leading the game in his favor. His offense is too simple to penetrate Duran's defense. Duran has great defense. Duran is very, very elusive and equipped with good counter.

Chavez has great chin and good stamina, but overall boxing ability is clearly below that of Duran.

Chavez's biggest offense is body hook. However I think who throws more accurate body shots will be Duran. The reason is Duran has good feints and pace-controlling power.

I think Duran can beat Chavez easily in lightweight. In Superlightweight and Welterweight Duran dominates Chavez more easily because Duran is naturally bigger than Chavez. I cannot even think Chavez can stand upright in front of Marvin Hagler in the middle of the ring. In 160 lbs Chavez will be kayoed by Duran.

Duran is one level above Chavez. Chavez will have difficulty in the match with Floyd Mavweather Jr.

Chavez is the same level with Mosley, Mayweather, Del a Hoya and so on..

walshb · Post by **walshb** » 27 Dec 2006, 08:02

JC just too slow and predictable for Duran who is better in the key areas of speed, defense, elusiveness and business. JC may well last the distance but he will be thoroughly outscored and outboxed

Victor*KC · Post by **Victor*KC** » 27 Dec 2006, 11:37

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Both guys are great at applying pressure and breaking down opponents with combinations, mixing it up to the head and body. I thought Chavez seemed a little more fluid with his combos, while Duran was just faster overall. Chavez was methodical and a little more predictable. Duran could swarm and come at different angles. Sometimes it would look like he was coming to one side of the opponent's body and then a sudden movement would put him at the other side, and he'd attack. Ultimately I think Duran's superior speed and ability to also box so well at range would be the difference. Chavez has few advantages on Duran. Maybe chin (slight), maybe combinations (slight)...but Duran was better overall.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 27 Dec 2006, 16:48

Decagon wrote:We get this topic about ten times per year by someone who's just shown up. The concensus has always been that Duran would win. Next time, instead of starting a topic, why not use the search button?

Next time how about you just dont go onto the thread if you dont like it!... and how about doing some threads of your own rather than being the forum misery and simply going around other peoples threads moaning and bitching and calling people names!... you've become a troll mate!....

The Great John L · Post by **The Great John L** » 27 Dec 2006, 16:56

silkov wrote:
Decagon wrote:We get this topic about ten times per year by someone who's just shown up. The concensus has always been that Duran would win. Next time, instead of starting a topic, why not use the search button?
Next time how about you just dont go onto the thread if you dont like it!... and how about doing some threads of your own rather than being the forum misery and simply going around other peoples threads moaning and bitching and calling people names!... you've become a troll mate!....

Ah, but he's a damn good one!!

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 27 Dec 2006, 19:04

The Great John L wrote:
silkov wrote:
Decagon wrote:We get this topic about ten times per year by someone who's just shown up. The concensus has always been that Duran would win. Next time, instead of starting a topic, why not use the search button?
Next time how about you just dont go onto the thread if you dont like it!... and how about doing some threads of your own rather than being the forum misery and simply going around other peoples threads moaning and bitching and calling people names!... you've become a troll mate!....
Ah, but he's a damn good one!!

If you like that sort of thing perhaps, but I can get the same type of 'entertainment' in my local bar where theres always some sad guy crying and shouting into his beer about how everything is crap, his wife has piles and he hasnt been able to hold an erection since Kennedy was bumped off!... :x

8)
...as my mom used to say to me... "if you're going to be a misery be original about it!"....
I fear there is nothing new or original in Decs act!... and he seldom makes me laugh!...

:x

kick asner · Post by **kick asner** » 27 Dec 2006, 19:26

Decagon wrote:We get this topic about ten times per year by someone who's just shown up. The concensus has always been that Duran would win. Next time, instead of starting a topic, why not use the search button?

With all due respect you almost have to have repeat topics. Otherwise you would run out of subjects. I try to use the search button but sometimes it just doesn't quite cover everything. I even unwitingly repeated my own thread once. Was a bit embarising but everyone was gracious about it. Plus their are new people all of the time.

If you are seeking new discusion fodder to kick around then you should visit the other subjects forum. They discuss a diverse group of topics and you basically have leeway to talk about whatever you find interseting. Some of it serious and some on the lighter side. All of it taylor made for a well read guy like yourself.

Sweet Scientist · Post by **Sweet Scientist** » 27 Dec 2006, 22:17

The Great John L wrote:
silkov wrote:
Decagon wrote:We get this topic about ten times per year by someone who's just shown up. The concensus has always been that Duran would win. Next time, instead of starting a topic, why not use the search button?
Next time how about you just dont go onto the thread if you dont like it!... and how about doing some threads of your own rather than being the forum misery and simply going around other peoples threads moaning and bitching and calling people names!... you've become a troll mate!....
Ah, but he's a damn good one!!

...a damn, damn good one....

thunderfromdownunder · Post by **thunderfromdownunder** » 27 Dec 2006, 23:34

Decagon wrote:We get this topic about ten times per year by someone who's just shown up. The concensus has always been that Duran would win. Next time, instead of starting a topic, why not use the search button?

settle down mate....i dont come on BOTP that often.
and maybe some of the newe people wanted to have a say

Victor*KC · Post by **Victor*KC** » 27 Dec 2006, 23:51

silkov So thats why his always Cranky?