FINALLY got to see Chuck Wepner vs Andre The Giant!

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joe kurtz
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FINALLY got to see Chuck Wepner vs Andre The Giant!

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God, I still remember how badly I wanted to see this & the Ali - Inoki "fight" on closed circuit back in 1976. But, my parents didn't want to shell out the $20 per ticket nor drive me about 20 miles away into downtown Buffalo from where we lived at the time. Not on a school night anyhow ...
So, I missed it.
I was only 14 at the time & had just taken an interest in boxing. And, at the time they really built these matches up in the press as actual fights. I certainly had no idea of the difference between a "shoot" & a "work" & this was back in the day when a decent portion of the public still thought that pro wrestling matches were real.
And, neither of my parents followed boxing or wrestling, aside from taking a casual interest in the fights that I watched on TV ( unlike a lot of folks, I discovered boxing & became a fanatic on my own without really being influenced by any one else ), so they couldn't set me straight on this card ( or actually cards, telecast from Japan & NYC ) being a "work".
Which, even had I known that it was, wouldn't have prevented me from wanting to see it. Though I'm sure it would made having to miss it a bit easier on me than it was that night ...
As it was, I stayed up waiting to here the results on our local 11 O'Clock newscast, but they couldn't give it because it was still in progress. So, back in those pre-cable days of no 24 hour SPORTSCENTER, no CNN, when the local channels actually still signed off for the night & there was nothing but test patterns on the tube from about 1 AM 'til 6 or 7 in the morning, this poor kid tossed & turned all night. Unable to do anything other than fall into an occasional light doze while wondering & waiting to hear the results.
So, at the crack of dawn I was up tuned into GOOD MORNING AMERICA to find out what happened.
And, like everyone else in the world, I was highly disappointed in the anti-climax of a result to the main event. I'd been hoping like hell for an Ali knock out victory, while also fearing for his health, hell, his very LIFE seeing as how they'd done such a good job of selling Inoki as a huge, fierce master of all martial arts as well as wrestling! :o :lol:
They did make a quick mention of the result of Wepner's match with The Giant as well.

Now, all these years later, I can't recall which network picked up the rights to rebroadcast the event, but one of them did a week or two later & I spent that Friday night discovering that those 15 rounds were, indeed, just as dull as indicated by the newspaper stories said it had been.

But, MUCH to my dismay, that night's rebroadcast didn't include the Wepner - Andre match. Not so much as a few seconds of footage!

And, although I've read probably a few dozen accounts of it ( usually accompanied by the same photo or two ) over the past thirty years & talked to many people who saw it, I'd never ANY film or video of it.
Until today on YOU TUBE.

And, while I'm awfully happy about FINALLY getting to see it, I was shocked at the hyperbole most accounts have described this match with!
I mean, from day one back in '76, all the stories wrote of this one having been the "shoot" of the two matches on closed circuit that night. They all told of how afraid of The Giant Chuck looked in the ring & of the fearsome beating that Andre put on him before literally THROWING him out of the ring into the crowd. With some accounts saying poor Wepner wound up in the third row, while others said the sixth row!
I remember reading those stories in vivid detail.
Let me tell you, it was nice to finally get to see what REALLY happened today & it was FAR from everything that I've ever read or heard.

It was obviously just your routine WWF work.
Instead of the Butterbean vs Bart Gunn "shoot" that I'd expected to see transire on the video, what I wound up seeing was much more like 'Bean's earlier appearance on a WWF PPV in a rather silly "work" against "Marvelous" Mark Mero.
All those "vicious headbutts" from Andre I'd heard about over the past three decades were just your typical "worked" headbutts , very much pulled & VERY obviously delivered to the back of his own hand as he held Wepner in place for them.
It was hilarious actually to see the notoriously cut prone "Bayonne Bleeder" supposedly take these full force headbutts from a guy with a noggin the size of a small boulder & yet, miraculously come away from them at the end of the "fight" with not so much as a nick or a spot of blood on him ... :D

As for Chuck being tossed like a ragdoll several rows into the crowd, Andre actually just picked him up & heaved him ever so gently over the top rope, where he subsequently landed on the ring apron only to THEN roll off onto the floor! :roll:

To me, the only thing that looked the least bit unscripted was back inside in the ring during the aftermath when it appears that there might have been a couple of seconds of legitimate heat between Wepner & The Giant & their handlers. But that's where the video ends.

Sorry to write such a novel-length post about this, but c'mon, it was thirty years in the making!
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Post by HomicideHenry »

By 1976, most people knew that wrestling was fake. The word was out 50 or 60 years earlier, and the only time people actually believed it was real was when they were suckered into betting on the mess, back in the 1800s and early 1900s. NO ONE BET ON WRESTLING IN 1976!

I can't say that is absoloutely true. I have seen some pretty wild wrestling fans who grew up around the Buddy Rogers' and Georgeous George' and Bruno Sammartino' and would still to this day talk like it was absoloutely for real. Probably the most common thing I hear out of people from then was 'Back in my day it was real'.

So...am sure there were some people who probably wagered bets on it.

I remember a story my grandfather would tell me, because he went to the bars on weekends and during that time Logan county was a kind of hot bed for wrestling, he swore on his life:

'Those guys don't hate eachother like you see on tv, I saw Budday Rogers and Chief Don Eagle and others, good guys and bad guys, all at the bar drinking and having fun together.'

Though I must admit, that is somewhat odd considering the 'rules' back then was that 'heels' and 'babyfaces' weren't allowed near eachother, so that the 'truth' of professional wrestling wouldn't be revealed. Oddly enough this same rule was still in practice even up until the early 1990's in some places; 'Cowboy' Bill Watts ran WCW (?) the same way when he ran it.
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Post by icejack »

Remember seeing these two "Fights" on saturday sports show back at the time,The Ali fight was tedious ,with the wrestler laying on the floor kicking at Ali's legs for the full fight .The Wepner fight "seemed" more "real" to this teenager of the time ,I remember the giant picking up Wepner and giving him a bear hug of sorts and throwing him over the roopes but thats about it,how long did the fight last?
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Post by bada$$ »

It was only admitted in the early 90's that wrestling was fake... but back in the day... everyone thought it was fake but not everyone was 100% sure like today
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Post by ebeneezer »

If you want a laugh you should see Andre's boxing match with Gorilla Monsoon in Puerto Rico.

Monsoon's selling of Andre's punches was absolutley hilarious.
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