Top 15 fighters of all time?

TonyJ · Post by **TonyJ** » 06 Aug 2003, 23:04

What are your guys Choices for Top 15 fighters of all time? here's mine....

1.SRR
2.Henry Armstrong
3.Roberto Duran
4.Ali
5.Joe louis
6.SRL
7.Jack dempsey
8.Rocy Marciano
9.Willie pep
10.Julio Cesar Chavez
11.Benny Leonard
12.Archie Moore
13.Eder Jofre
14.Sandy Saddler
15.Marvin Hagler

Barney Ross' Neighbor · Post by **Barney Ross' Neighbor** » 07 Aug 2003, 01:44

You have a pretty good list there. I would only change it a little.
Here's mine:
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Archie Moore
5. Julio Cesar Chavez
6. Roberto Duran
7. Joe Louis
8. Aaron Pryor
9. Kid Gavilan
10. Willie Pep
11. Marvin Hagler
12. Joe Gans
13. Joe Frazier
14. Gene Tunney
15. Salvador Sanchez

Marciano Frazier · Post by **Marciano Frazier** » 08 Aug 2003, 03:52

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Archie Moore
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Georges Carpentier
5. Roberto Duran
6. Henry Armstrong
7. Joe Louis
8. Sugar Ray Leonard
9. Willie Pep
10. Rocky Marciano
11. Ezzard Charles
12. Mike Spinks
13. Roy Jones Jr.
14. Julio Caesar Chavez
15. Gene Tunney

That's a very rough list, done basically off the top of my head.

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 08 Aug 2003, 04:05

You all rate Ali ahead of Joe Louis?

TonyJ · Post by **TonyJ** » 08 Aug 2003, 04:49

I personaly like Louis better than Ali but in p4p i would have to slightly give it to Ali.

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 08 Aug 2003, 08:11

Joe Louis weighed less than Ali... Where the fornicate do you people come to that equation?!!

TonyJ · Post by **TonyJ** » 08 Aug 2003, 14:43

OK, just relax.

Marciano Frazier · Post by **Marciano Frazier** » 09 Aug 2003, 03:51

Tantum wrote:Joe Louis weighed less than Ali... Where the fornicate do you people come to that equation?!!

Man, you sure get angry fast. So you think Louis should be ranked higher simply because he weighed less? Or is it because he weighed less and dominated the same weight division? That's a good point. Although by that, Marciano and Bob Fizimmons would also go above Ali p4p. Like I said, my list is very rough, and I don't have all the criteria laid out.

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 22 Aug 2003, 00:45

No... If Joe Louis is higher on your list for heavyweights.... how the hell can Ali be higher on your P4P list, if he weighed MORE than Joe Louis?? That makes no sense at all.

theguvnor · Post by **theguvnor** » 23 Aug 2003, 04:45

Here's my list

1.SRR
2.Ali
3.Henry Armstrong
4. SRL
5.Joe louis
6. Marvin Hagler
7.Roberto Duran
8. Willie pep
9.Julio Cesar Chavez
10.Thomas Hearns
11.Benny Leonard
12. Roy Jones jr
13.Eder Jofre
14.Sandy Saddler
15. Oscar De La Hoya

Analyst · Post by **Analyst** » 25 Aug 2003, 02:30

@all

I`m from Germany. I recognised two things about Americans.

They tend to overrate their own sportsmen very much. A lot of the american fans cant`t rate sportsmen of other countries in a realistic way, because they get not much informations about sports from other countries. The press in the US is simply not very interested in sportsmen of other countries.

The second thing I recognised about American Sportfans is very positive. I think that they are very fair. More fair than for example the common German sportsfan.

Now I will end to show my bad english

Tomato-Can · Post by **Tomato-Can** » 25 Aug 2003, 05:26

1. Masahiko Harada
2. Yoko Gushiken
3. Koichi Wajima
4. Kuniaki Shibata
5. Masao Ohba
6. Ishimatsu Suzuki
7. Ryu Sorimachi
8. Yasutsune Uehara
9. Jiro Watanabe
10 Ushiwakamaru Harada
11 Yoshio Shirai
12 Hiroshi Kobayashi
13 Yoshiaki Numata
14 Shozo Saijyo
15 Hiroyuki Ebihara

THE iceman · Post by **THE iceman** » 26 Aug 2003, 01:17

none of your TOP 15's are better than this .....

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Roberto Duran
4. Willie Pep
5. Muhammad Ali
6. Roy Jones, JR
7. Joe Louis
8. Benny Leonard
9. Sugar Ray Leonard
10. Alexis Arguello
11. Marvin Hagler
12. Carlos Monzon
13. Barney Ross
14. Archie Moore
15. Julio Cesar Chavez/Pernell Whitaker

Tomato-Can · Post by **Tomato-Can** » 26 Aug 2003, 07:01

Sez you. How 'bout this

1. Boone Kirkman
2. Hobo Wiler
3. Gene Green
4. Harry Matthews
5. Greg Haugen
6. Charlie Reno
7. Ray Seales
8. Davey Lee Armstrong
9. Bill Schellhas
10 Tommy Howard
11 Eddie Cotton
12 Johnny Bumphus
13 Leo Randolph
14 Joe Hipp
15. L.J. Wheeler

Dutch Windmill · Post by **Dutch Windmill** » 26 Aug 2003, 15:28

I think P4P should be about the weight class. A good excuse for Roy if he ever fights and loses at heavyweight: I was P4P better

[quote=analyst]
@all

I`m from Germany. I recognised two things about Americans.

They tend to overrate their own sportsmen very much. [/quote]

Because our countries go togethere so well

1. Max Schmeling
2. Sven Ottke
3. Henry Maske
4. Karl Mildenberger
5. Graciano Rocchegiani
1856. Markus Beyer

Analyst · Post by **Analyst** » 28 Aug 2003, 00:08

@DutchwindMill

; There are too much Germans in your Pount4Pount List. What about some Boxers from the Netherlands

?

The_Wild_Man · Post by **The_Wild_Man** » 28 Aug 2003, 01:27

tomato can wrote:1. Boone Kirkman
5. Greg Haugen

Hell yeah, the man did beat Jimmy Ellis (how many boxers can say that?

)
and its nice to see Greg Haugen getting some love too

Jaclem · Post by **Jaclem** » 28 Aug 2003, 01:56

lots of deserving fighters on the various lists...but it shouldn't surprise regulars here that I'll add Ezzard Charles. Much to hard to list any of them in order,yet that's what always starts the arguments.so before they get too heated just think about this...WHEN LISTING GREAt FIGHTERS FROM VARIOUS ERAS AND WEIGHT DIVISIONS RANKING THEM IN ORDER IS PUTTING MUCH TO FINE A POINT ON IT.

Back to Ezzard....the problem is if he goes in, who comes out. i'd sub him for fellow cincinnatian aaron pryor, and I never was as high on monzon as some people whose opinions i respect are. I can't see Marciano in any list with under 30 fighters on it.

I wish I had seen Eder Jofre. his record and respect he has from those who did see him indicates he belongs in with the very best.

Jaclem · Post by **Jaclem** » 28 Aug 2003, 01:57

lots of deserving fighters on the various lists...but it shouldn't surprise regulars here that I'll add Ezzard Charles. Much to hard to list any of them in order,yet that's what always starts the arguments.so before they get too heated just think about this...WHEN LISTING GREAt FIGHTERS FROM VARIOUS ERAS AND WEIGHT DIVISIONS RANKING THEM IN ORDER IS PUTTING MUCH TO FINE A POINT ON IT.

Back to Ezzard....the problem is if he goes in, who comes out. i'd sub him for fellow cincinnatian aaron pryor, and I never was as high on monzon as some people whose opinions i respect are. I can't see Marciano in any list with under 30 fighters on it.

I wish I had seen Eder Jofre. his record and respect he has from those who did see him indicates he belongs in with the very best.

Tomato-Can · Post by **Tomato-Can** » 28 Aug 2003, 08:42

The_Wild_Man v2.0 wrote:
tomato can wrote:1. Boone Kirkman
5. Greg Haugen
Hell yeah, the man did beat Jimmy Ellis (how many boxers can say that? )
and its nice to see Greg Haugen getting some love too

That was from a random list of fighters from my state.

1. Sparrow Freeman
2. Big Jim West
3. Jeff Fenech
4. Johnny Famechon
5. Hector Thompson
6. Lionel Rose
7. Les Darcy
8. Dave Sands
9. Tony Mundine
10 Barry Michael
11 Charkey Ramon
12 Paul Ferrari
13 Bob Dunlop
14 Jeff Harding
15 Lester Ellis

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