Hopkins announced his retirement and consequently you cant keep him in the top ten based on rumours - Likewise you cant have the top spot in the possession of a fighter who lost his last fight.
Based on achievements (not potential) and it's clear that Woods is near the very top, if not indeed at the top.
Dan Rafael's 175 lb Rankings
What fight was he watching?? Abraham controlled the fight even with a horrific injury.steve689 wrote:I remember seeing Dan Raphael at the Hopkins-De La Hoya weigh in, he is one of the fattest people i have laid eyes on.
Anyway what's his Middleweight rankings all about...Miranda above Abraham?! Based on what. Plus this little line
Miranda the uncrowned titlist -- by virtue of the robbery he experienced against Arthur Abraham in Germany in September --
Robbery? Okay so bumbling ref Randy Neumann was inept and his performance stunk but Abraham OUTBOXED Miranda anyway regardless of the point deductions and for the most part with a broken jaw! I didn't see any robbery other than the dire officiating of the consistently poor Neumann. Did Raphael even watch the fight? Seems he just heard Germany and controversy in the same sentence and cried foul.
For his Abraham section he adds:
He (Abraham) also ought to watch a tape of the fight and see how Miranda beat the heck out of him and how clueless referee Randy Neumann saved him.
Most people had Vitali Klitchsko at #1 after Lewis announced his retirment. Vitali had lost his last fight.Twinkle Toes wrote:Hopkins announced his retirement and consequently you cant keep him in the top ten based on rumours - Likewise you cant have the top spot in the possession of a fighter who lost his last fight.
Based on achievements (not potential) and it's clear that Woods is near the very top, if not indeed at the top.
So why not Tarver still as #1. He beat Johnson far more convincingly than Woods did, and Johnson was a year or so further down the line.
Adamek beat Ulrich and Briggs twice (fearsome fights). And you're comparing him to Erdei?Twinkle Toes wrote:Ranking him at No 1 isnt out of the question - I too thought it was wrong, but when you look and analyse who else is in the top ten, he has a good shout of being at the top spot.
Who else could you put above him?
Hopkins is retired
Tarver lost his last fight, so there is now way he should be in the top spot
Johnson lost to Woods last time out.
Adamek is missing a big name/fight - I would say he is the one closest to Woods - His fight with Dawson is a good match up.
Erdei is simialr to Adamek, he's nearly there, but needs a big fight.
Jones Jr is 1-3 in his last 4 fights and he needs a bigger name that Prince Badi on his comeback trail to be considered a threat to the No 1 spot.
I think the writer is pretty accurate with those LH rankings.
Paul Briggs may not have the name recognition of Tarver or Johnson, but he's one hell of a fighter.
Btw, if you think those ranking are accurate you need to study the LH's a little more closely.
Becuase tarver's loss to a middleweight should have launched him downward the rankings, much like Rafael depicted, imo.stujones wrote:Most people had Vitali Klitchsko at #1 after Lewis announced his retirment. Vitali had lost his last fight.Twinkle Toes wrote:Hopkins announced his retirement and consequently you cant keep him in the top ten based on rumours - Likewise you cant have the top spot in the possession of a fighter who lost his last fight.
Based on achievements (not potential) and it's clear that Woods is near the very top, if not indeed at the top.
So why not Tarver still as #1. He beat Johnson far more convincingly than Woods did, and Johnson was a year or so further down the line.
Clinton, Adamek, and even Erdei (although this is a dubious choice) should all be ranked ahead of Tarver without any qualms.
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Yeah, this one is plain idiotic.nickd wrote:What fight was he watching?? Abraham controlled the fight even with a horrific injury.steve689 wrote:I remember seeing Dan Raphael at the Hopkins-De La Hoya weigh in, he is one of the fattest people i have laid eyes on.
Anyway what's his Middleweight rankings all about...Miranda above Abraham?! Based on what. Plus this little line
Miranda the uncrowned titlist -- by virtue of the robbery he experienced against Arthur Abraham in Germany in September --
Robbery? Okay so bumbling ref Randy Neumann was inept and his performance stunk but Abraham OUTBOXED Miranda anyway regardless of the point deductions and for the most part with a broken jaw! I didn't see any robbery other than the dire officiating of the consistently poor Neumann. Did Raphael even watch the fight? Seems he just heard Germany and controversy in the same sentence and cried foul.
For his Abraham section he adds:
He (Abraham) also ought to watch a tape of the fight and see how Miranda beat the heck out of him and how clueless referee Randy Neumann saved him.
You wonder whether Raphael knows what he is writing about.