Bad Chad Dawson vs Calzaghe/Woods

boxerrob2005 · Post by **boxerrob2005** » 04 Feb 2007, 09:37

Would love to see Dawson against either of these 2. Despite being floored by Adamek he put on a superb performance. If Hopkins is going to fight Wright maybe this would be a perfect debut in USA for Calzaghe.
I would lean towards Calzaghe to stop dawson late on but think it would be a good fight.
Woods vs Dawson in a unification would be good but think Dawson would out-point him.

ALI · Post by **ALI** » 04 Feb 2007, 09:50

Fcuk Calzaghe......... your wasting your energy dreaming about him fighting anybody worth a dam.

For the record, Dawson willl outpoint Woods quite easy. I dont think he's the second comming of Roy Jones like some seem to right now, but he's fast enough to outbox the plodding Woods all night long!

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 04 Feb 2007, 11:09

Dawson has a way better line up of challengers than Jones did. If he can reign long, there won't be much to complain about.

Most important for Dawson is Erdei, because he's lineal champion.

Calzaghe, from the press releases I've seen, wants to keep his 168 title and surpass Hopkins' 20 defenses (different division, I know).

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 04 Feb 2007, 22:16

Anty chance Chad can still make Super Middle. Originally his reason for moving up was to avoid much clammour for a match with his friend, Jeff Lacy. Now Lacy look by the by - could he be persuaded to come down and come too Britain (he's fought here before) to fight Joe.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 05 Feb 2007, 04:21

I wouldn't think so. I mean, he has a title. My guess is there's a marketable fight with Tarver coming up. Settle who the best in Florida is. I'm sure Tarver would want to test how ROCKY 7 affected his box office standing.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 05 Feb 2007, 08:36

Terence wrote:I guess avoiding the result then coming on a boxing forum (even a UK-based one) was not the best idea I've ever had

So Dawson won did he? I have the fight so will check it out tonight, suspense free or not!

have you ever seen the dvdtimes.co.uk forums? They have spoiler tags, in case someone reveals the end of a film. Maybe it'd be good to have spoiler tags over here.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 05 Feb 2007, 08:41

We are usually pretty good for having spoiler tags for shows that are being shown on a delayed basis in the UK - but where would we draw the line only completely non tv shows?

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 05 Feb 2007, 08:49

Seems like a few clips here:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... son+adamek

First impressions, Adamek looks very slow and ponderous and particularly wary of Dawson's superior speed. But it's hard to gauge a clear picture from clips.

boxerrob2005 · Post by **boxerrob2005** » 05 Feb 2007, 09:08

Dawsons hand speed was really good but Adamek was extremley poor and looked scared to throw punches for 7 rounds. the first 6 rounds reminded me of mayweather - gatti. not as one sided but Dawson seemed to have control of Adameks mind. dawson is a good fighter but i think Calzaghes pressure would be too much for him but it would make for a very interesting fight.

Axe · Post by **Axe** » 05 Feb 2007, 19:34

Dawson stops Woods late, after winning every single round.

Chad outboxes Calzaghe now by comfortable UD, Joe has wasted his best years.

Imo.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 05 Feb 2007, 20:16

Axe wrote:
Chad outboxes Calzaghe now by comfortable UD, Joe has wasted his best years.

Imo.

If Boxrec members make the mistake of not listening to me again when I say Joe will win, then you'll be eating crow.

Axe · Post by **Axe** » 07 Feb 2007, 04:41

Max Molyneux wrote:
Axe wrote:
Chad outboxes Calzaghe now by comfortable UD, Joe has wasted his best years.

Imo.
If Boxrec members make the mistake of not listening to me again when I say Joe will win, then you'll be eating crow.

I'll bet you the fight never happens. Take that bet and you'll be downing a whole Raven.

If it does though, Chad whoops him.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 07 Feb 2007, 06:33

Axe wrote:Dawson stops Woods late, after winning every single round.

Chad outboxes Calzaghe now by comfortable UD, Joe has wasted his best years.

Imo.

Axe, I know Dawson is an outstanding fighter, but is there any man alive he cannot beat? LOL

Axe · Post by **Axe** » 07 Feb 2007, 18:24

viciousmaussa wrote:
Axe wrote:Dawson stops Woods late, after winning every single round.

Chad outboxes Calzaghe now by comfortable UD, Joe has wasted his best years.

Imo.
Axe, I know Dawson is an outstanding fighter, but is there any man alive he cannot beat? LOL

He cannot beat? Within his weightclass, no.

He would not beat? Many guys have a shot at beating him. Some due to their power, others such as Calzaghe due to their speed and intensity.

Dawson is young and still a question mark, we have to see him in with other styles of opponent before we ultimately declare him the best. But he's already dealt with several stylistic challenges, such as fellow southpaws, cagey veterans like Harding, boxer-punchers like Adamek, and a completely awkward guy in Ian Gardner.

I'd like to see him in with a swarmer or a pressure fighter next, someone like Glen Johnson ought to answer further questions.

shoutout · Post by **shoutout** » 07 Feb 2007, 18:45

viciousmaussa wrote:Dawson has a way better line up of challengers than Jones did. If he can reign long, there won't be much to complain about.

Most important for Dawson is Erdei, because he's lineal champion.

Calzaghe, from the press releases I've seen, wants to keep his 168 title and surpass Hopkins' 20 defenses (different division, I know).

most fans away from boxrec dont pay any attention to lineal titles & ersatz erdei has only undermined his own cred because of 2nd-rate WBO pseudo-challengers like santiago & murdoch!! if anyone can push chad to a new level (both fistically & credibility-wise) now it is b-hop!!

shoutout · Post by **shoutout** » 08 Feb 2007, 00:47

Max Molyneux wrote:
Axe wrote:
Chad outboxes Calzaghe now by comfortable UD, Joe has wasted his best years.

Imo.
If Boxrec members make the mistake of not listening to me again when I say Joe will win, then you'll be eating crow.

how long will this continue?!? until joe is 40?

i guess there ARE advantages to a soft schedule!!

Sweet P · Post by **Sweet P** » 08 Feb 2007, 01:15

viciousmaussa wrote:Dawson has a way better line up of challengers than Jones did. If he can reign long, there won't be much to complain about.

Most important for Dawson is Erdei, because he's lineal champion.

Calzaghe, from the press releases I've seen, wants to keep his 168 title and surpass Hopkins' 20 defenses (different division, I know).

How is Erdei lineal champ, He hasn't fought anyone and looked crap against Murdoch who is little more than a club fighter. Green stopped Murdoch in 2 rounds and dropped him with a left jab

Ademek has beaten better opposition at 175 and just got his ass kicked so surley Dawson is the lineal champ at 175.

Axe · Post by **Axe** » 09 Feb 2007, 18:05

Ben Keilty wrote:
viciousmaussa wrote:Dawson has a way better line up of challengers than Jones did. If he can reign long, there won't be much to complain about.

Most important for Dawson is Erdei, because he's lineal champion.

Calzaghe, from the press releases I've seen, wants to keep his 168 title and surpass Hopkins' 20 defenses (different division, I know).
How is Erdei lineal champ, He hasn't fought anyone and looked crap against Murdoch who is little more than a club fighter. Green stopped Murdoch in 2 rounds and dropped him with a left jab
Ademek has beaten better opposition at 175 and just got his ass kicked so surley Dawson is the lineal champ at 175.

Lineal doesn't always translate to "best"...in fact nowadays the #1 in any division is hardly ever lineal.

I too would take both Adamek and Dawson over Erdei.