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Sports Network have announced more details of their forthcoming promotion in Newport, Wales on September 13. In the main event, WBU cruiserweight champion Enzo Maccarinelli (14-1) makes his first defence against American Cecil McKenzie (13-6-1). Swansea's Maccarinelli, 23, won the title with a destructive fourth round stoppage of Bruce Scott in June. McKenzie comes off an impressive second round stoppage of Yosuke Nishijima in July in San Jose.
Also on the bill, WBU light-middleweight champion Takaloo (21-3) meets Ukranian Wladimir Borovski (14-5) in advance of a mooted return with Anthony Farnell, whom he destroyed in one round for the title in July 2001. Farnell moved up to middleweight afterwards, but has now dropped down again and is seeking revenge.
Gavin Rees (20-0) is also on the bill as he ticks over in preparation for a WBU super-featherweight title shot at Kevin Lear.
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i am going to this card,

they wont rush enzo and so they should, enzo will make 3 or 4 soft defenses of the title, then warren will try and push him into a title shot against nelson,
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Grrreeeaattttt!!!!

4 Warren fighters.

4 odds-on favourites.

4 predictable winners.
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Arnie is now being trained by Oliver Harrison after he left Billy Graham(dont ask why!!)

A new dietician will get him down to light middle and we could see him perform better...
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thepocketrocket wrote:Arenie is now being trained by Oliver Harrison after he keft Billy Graham(dont ask why!!)

A new dietician will get him down to light middle and we could see him perform better...
Any news on a McCullough opponent, Pocket?
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REAL_DEAL wrote:i am going to this card,

they wont rush enzo and so they should, enzo will make 3 or 4 soft defenses of the title, then warren will try and push him into a title shot against nelson,
enzo vs nelson :-? how does that make n e sense???!!
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bennie wrote:Sports Network have announced more details of their forthcoming promotion in Newport, Wales on September 13. In the main event, WBU cruiserweight champion Enzo Maccarinelli (14-1) makes his first defence against American Cecil McKenzie (13-6-1). Swansea's Maccarinelli, 23, won the title with a destructive fourth round stoppage of Bruce Scott in June. McKenzie comes off an impressive second round stoppage of Yosuke Nishijima in July in San Jose.
Also on the bill, WBU light-middleweight champion Takaloo (21-3) meets Ukranian Wladimir Borovski (14-5) in advance of a mooted return with Anthony Farnell, whom he destroyed in one round for the title in July 2001. Farnell moved up to middleweight afterwards, but has now dropped down again and is seeking revenge.
Gavin Rees (20-0) is also on the bill as he ticks over in preparation for a WBU super-featherweight title shot at Kevin Lear.
going to this Bill as it is just down the road from me...
Enzo is a good but not excellent boxer, nothing more than European standard...
Reesy is something tho' to look forward into the future...
Saw Takaloo last when he lost to Dan Santos at Cardiff Castle, I am a fan of his and he looked good after he KO victory over Jim Rock earlier on this year...
Arnie, what can I say about him... HES SHIT
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TT wrote:
bennie wrote:Sports Network have announced more details of their forthcoming promotion in Newport, Wales on September 13. In the main event, WBU cruiserweight champion Enzo Maccarinelli (14-1) makes his first defence against American Cecil McKenzie (13-6-1). Swansea's Maccarinelli, 23, won the title with a destructive fourth round stoppage of Bruce Scott in June. McKenzie comes off an impressive second round stoppage of Yosuke Nishijima in July in San Jose.
Also on the bill, WBU light-middleweight champion Takaloo (21-3) meets Ukranian Wladimir Borovski (14-5) in advance of a mooted return with Anthony Farnell, whom he destroyed in one round for the title in July 2001. Farnell moved up to middleweight afterwards, but has now dropped down again and is seeking revenge.
Gavin Rees (20-0) is also on the bill as he ticks over in preparation for a WBU super-featherweight title shot at Kevin Lear.
going to this Bill as it is just down the road from me...
Enzo is a good but not excellent boxer, nothing more than European standard...
Reesy is something tho' to look forward into the future...
Saw Takaloo last when he lost to Dan Santos at Cardiff Castle, I am a fan of his and he looked good after he KO victory over Jim Rock earlier on this year...
Arnie, what can I say about him... HES SHIT
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: yep arnie definitly is!!! enzo haye could be a good matchup i think enzo is overhyped.haye would KO him with both tasting the canvass in an exciting slug fest for 5rnds!!!
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Although on paper these fights look like mismatches...take a look at the two home fighters for a second.

Enzo Macarinelli, a guy who punches like kick from a mule, but also releases enough glass in his fights to donate towards the Chelsea Flower show. He's a banger with no chin. Which means excitment guaranteed. No matter who he fights, if they can throw a punch, they have a chance. It's what makes guys like him exciting and at a more exalted level Tommy Hearns and Bomber Graham.

Same with Takaloo. Although not in the chin department...Chelsea won't be receiving a donation for the green houses just yet. Tak can take a shot, no doubt. But he's a such an all out banger that he suffers from 'punchers' syndrome' ie. loads up to much and looks for the KO. AGainst slicksters who can box this is dangerous, and if the kid he's facing can box and move a bit, who knows.
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scurlaruntings wrote:
TT wrote:
bennie wrote:Sports Network have announced more details of their forthcoming promotion in Newport, Wales on September 13. In the main event, WBU cruiserweight champion Enzo Maccarinelli (14-1) makes his first defence against American Cecil McKenzie (13-6-1). Swansea's Maccarinelli, 23, won the title with a destructive fourth round stoppage of Bruce Scott in June. McKenzie comes off an impressive second round stoppage of Yosuke Nishijima in July in San Jose.
Also on the bill, WBU light-middleweight champion Takaloo (21-3) meets Ukranian Wladimir Borovski (14-5) in advance of a mooted return with Anthony Farnell, whom he destroyed in one round for the title in July 2001. Farnell moved up to middleweight afterwards, but has now dropped down again and is seeking revenge.
Gavin Rees (20-0) is also on the bill as he ticks over in preparation for a WBU super-featherweight title shot at Kevin Lear.
going to this Bill as it is just down the road from me...
Enzo is a good but not excellent boxer, nothing more than European standard...
Reesy is something tho' to look forward into the future...
Saw Takaloo last when he lost to Dan Santos at Cardiff Castle, I am a fan of his and he looked good after he KO victory over Jim Rock earlier on this year...
Arnie, what can I say about him... HES SHIT
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: yep arnie definitly is!!! enzo haye could be a good matchup i think enzo is overhyped.haye would KO him with both tasting the canvass in an exciting slug fest for 5rnds!!!
Enzo don't have much skill but has alot of heart, he ain't afraid...
Once knocked down, he will carry on at you...

IMO Haye could beat him and Nelson at this moment...
Enzo is not overrated IMO. He is a genuine guy who knows he is not the best...
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TT wrote:
scurlaruntings wrote:
TT wrote:going to this Bill as it is just down the road from me...
Enzo is a good but not excellent boxer, nothing more than European standard...
Reesy is something tho' to look forward into the future...
Saw Takaloo last when he lost to Dan Santos at Cardiff Castle, I am a fan of his and he looked good after he KO victory over Jim Rock earlier on this year...
Arnie, what can I say about him... HES SHIT
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: yep arnie definitly is!!! enzo haye could be a good matchup i think enzo is overhyped.haye would KO him with both tasting the canvass in an exciting slug fest for 5rnds!!!
Enzo don't have much skill but has alot of heart, he ain't afraid...
Once knocked down, he will carry on at you...

IMO Haye could beat him and Nelson at this moment...
Enzo is not overrated IMO. He is a genuine guy who knows he is not the best...
true about nelson haye.haye would KO him.enzo is taking the wrong route the WBU isnt the way to go
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scurlaruntings wrote:
TT wrote:
scurlaruntings wrote: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: yep arnie definitly is!!! enzo haye could be a good matchup i think enzo is overhyped.haye would KO him with both tasting the canvass in an exciting slug fest for 5rnds!!!
Enzo don't have much skill but has alot of heart, he ain't afraid...
Once knocked down, he will carry on at you...

IMO Haye could beat him and Nelson at this moment...
Enzo is not overrated IMO. He is a genuine guy who knows he is not the best...
true about nelson haye.haye would KO him.enzo is taking the wrong route the WBU isnt the way to go
I myself consider the WBO, WBU, WBF and IBO Mickey Mouse Belts...

I myself prefer the British, Commonwealth and European route...
I am an Old Skool Fan and also believe there should be a reduction of weight divisions...
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No Way!!!

IMO the WBU is exactly the right way to go for Enzo. It gives him nice payday, both he and Mr Warren can pick who Enzo fights, and he is generally going to be given easyish fights.
Imagine Enzo trying for a genuine world title!!! For all his heart, bravery and power, he is limited and would be badly hurt against the big boys.

Many people riducule titles like the WBU/WBF etc. me included...but lets not forget the issue from the fighters POV, they are afterall the ones risking their health, not us. If titles like the WBU and the WBF give brave guys like Enzo, Farnell, Oakey etc. and dozens of other limited fighters, give them a good standard of living and peace of mind...then they should be credited.

Sure, the belts are annoying from a fans POV, but many of these fans are not in the ring risking their lives for the publics enjoyment. From a fighters perspective, the more 'world' titles the better.
Average, honest guys can make a good living from the sport...the type of money they should be earning from the risk they are putting forth.
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TT wrote:
scurlaruntings wrote:
TT wrote:Enzo don't have much skill but has alot of heart, he ain't afraid...
Once knocked down, he will carry on at you...

IMO Haye could beat him and Nelson at this moment...
Enzo is not overrated IMO. He is a genuine guy who knows he is not the best...
true about nelson haye.haye would KO him.enzo is taking the wrong route the WBU isnt the way to go
I myself consider the WBO, WBU, WBF and IBO Mickey Mouse Belts...

I myself prefer the British, Commonwealth and European route...
I am an Old Skool Fan and also believe there should be a reduction of weight divisions...
if u can win the domestic 3 belts then u know u can win a world title at an elite level.i would go back to 8 divisions too with the exception of 190 as heavys these days r too big
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get in the ring wrote:No Way!!!

IMO the WBU is exactly the right way to go for Enzo. It gives him nice payday, both he and Mr Warren can pick who Enzo fights, and he is generally going to be given easyish fights.
Imagine Enzo trying for a genuine world title!!! For all his heart, bravery and power, he is limited and would be badly hurt against the big boys.

Many people riducule titles like the WBU/WBF etc. me included...but lets not forget the issue from the fighters POV, they are afterall the ones risking their health, not us. If titles like the WBU and the WBF give brave guys like Enzo, Farnell, Oakey etc. and dozens of other limited fighters, give them a good standard of living and peace of mind...then they should be credited.

Sure, the belts are annoying from a fans POV, but many of these fans are not in the ring risking their lives for the publics enjoyment. From a fighters perspective, the more 'world' titles the better.
Average, honest guys can make a good living from the sport...the type of money they should be earning from the risk they are putting forth.
true they make more money for boxers but overall they tarnish the sport.in the champions league there is only 1 champ left at the end of the year.in boxing we have multiple champs n belts therefore to the casual fan who is the best? cos il be dammed if i know
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get in the ring wrote:No Way!!!

IMO the WBU is exactly the right way to go for Enzo. It gives him nice payday, both he and Mr Warren can pick who Enzo fights, and he is generally going to be given easyish fights.
Thats what boxing is all about nowadays... MONEY

Promoters want new belts all the time so they can promote so called 'World Title Bouts'.

I see where you are coming from saying it gives them a living, but I prefer the Old Skool route.

Boxing was better than there was only 1 World title.
People would be extremely chuffed just to be British Champion then. Nowadays the Lonsdale Belt is jus not as important. Its been devalued by the Mickey Mouse Belts.

They are Phoney World Belts. The only good belt that has been made in the last couple of years is the English Belt. It gives those who ain't got the quality to be World Class performers something to aim at.

Boxers who are not World Championship material like Farnell should fight for the English belt. I'd respect Arnie alot more if he was English Champion than when he was WBU Champ
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Anonymous wrote:
thepocketrocket wrote:Arenie is now being trained by Oliver Harrison after he keft Billy Graham(dont ask why!!)

A new dietician will get him down to light middle and we could see him perform better...
Any news on a McCullough opponent, Pocket?



I did an interview with the guy which can be found on http://www.irish-boxing.com Therefore another interview wouldnt be that good an idea just yet(not that much new to say). I will however try to do one as soon as his next fight is announced(he is always really approachable) I will ask about Scott then. It wouldnt suprise me if SN were trying to work it out before giving Wayne a date.....



I emailed Wayne and he says he is waiting patiently for a fight, it should be before the end of the year...
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thepocketrocket wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
thepocketrocket wrote:Arenie is now being trained by Oliver Harrison after he keft Billy Graham(dont ask why!!)

A new dietician will get him down to light middle and we could see him perform better...
Any news on a McCullough opponent, Pocket?



I emailed Wayne and he says he is waiting patiently for a fight, it should be before the end of the year...
Good to hear Wayne is well. I respect his heart and what he has gone through. He is too small for Feather and should stay down in Super Bantam.
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Martin, you should try and set up an interview with the Real pocketrocket!!!

It would be interesting to hear his thoughts on the Harrison situation...and how he may now be back in the title picture despite comfortbaly losing his last fight.
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get in the ring wrote:No Way!!!

IMO the WBU is exactly the right way to go for Enzo. It gives him nice payday, both he and Mr Warren can pick who Enzo fights, and he is generally going to be given easyish fights.
Imagine Enzo trying for a genuine world title!!! For all his heart, bravery and power, he is limited and would be badly hurt against the big boys.
Aren't you contradicting yourself...

Exhibit A:- http://www.eastsideboxing.com/british-b ... e=1#more16
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Well observed TT, here's a gold star.

If you'd fully read what I was saying...you'd have realised that 'from a fans POV, these titles are bogus and counterfeit' but for a boxer they are needed and rewarding. Therefore, when writing a fight report, I'm not writing an article about myself (If I were a fighter), and praising the bogus world titles...I'm writing it from the POV of a fan (which is what I am) and saying what a hindernace they are on us!!! Us fans.
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get in the ring wrote:Well observed TT, here's a gold star.

If you'd fully read what I was saying...you'd have realised that 'from a fans POV, these titles are bogus and counterfeit' but for a boxer they are needed and rewarding. Therefore, when writing a fight report, I'm not writing an article about myself (If I were a fighter), and praising the bogus world titles...I'm writing it from the POV of a fan (which is what I am) and saying what a hindernace they are on us!!! Us fans.
Depends what POV you are looking from really...
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Well here's the deal TT for the last time...

Titles like the WBU and WBF are meaningless in the eyes of us fans, who want to see ONE world champion and only one. We hate seeing multiple champs claiming they are THE number one, when they vary so much in ability and expereince...its just gets stupid. That is speaking from a fans POV Ok?

I'll now take my fans helmet off and start beating seven shades of sh1t out of a heavy bag. Now I'm a fighter.
From a fighters POV the titles are a great way to earn a living from this tough, risky demanding sport irrespective of their age, ability/talent. In a dangerous sport, guys that compete should have this chance. Titles like the WBU and WBF offer guys a chance to make a living, and thus will eventually lead to more people taking up the sport.

Therefore if you are writing. You write from a fans POV. To me, the title's are annoying and get in the way of big fights happening and they hinder fighters ambitions. That's how I feel, thats how the titles effect me. That's what I bloody well write 8)

I hope that has cleared that up for you
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I did an interview with the guy which can be found on http://www.irish-boxing.com Therefore another interview wouldnt be that good an idea just yet(not that much new to say). I will however try to do one as soon as his next fight is announced(he is always really approachable) I will ask about Scott then. It wouldnt suprise me if SN were trying to work it out before giving Wayne a date.....



I emailed Wayne and he says he is waiting patiently for a fight, it should be before the end of the year...
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