Audley Harrison

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 18 Feb 2007, 20:00

E wrote:
nickd wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote:While I'm glad the whole Audley saga is finally over, I did feel sorry for the big man - that was a helluva wake up call for a new career.

Is he a millionare already? Does he have to work again - anyone know?

That dire BBC deal we all had to sit through must've paid well I guess.
Sounds like he has a nice house in the USA etc..

Warren looked absolutely gutted at the Sprott win. A Skleton/Sprott rematch doesn't carry the same public interest as an Audley fight.

In fact it carries no public interest at all.
The BBC signed Audley to a £1 million 10 fight deal when he turned pro. He is definitely a millionaire.
yeah but after taxes, plus paying manager / trainer fees on purses, pissing some up the wall at nightclubs etc I doubt he is now.

Even on assets and liquid

I would be very surprised if Harrison isn't a millionaire now, very surprised. Thats was just his first fight deal. I don't know how much he got for his ITV fights and fights on the BBC on his second deal with them.

Plus he was getting percentage (and a good percentage) of gate seats etc of the A force promotion early BBC deal, plus endorsements etc post Olympics. Weren't the majority of the experts saying he didn't need to even turn pro.

Heartbreak_Kid79 · Post by **Heartbreak_Kid79** » 19 Feb 2007, 04:58

Audley brought out his biography too, before he'd even turned pro.

That was before people strated to hate him, so he'll have made a few bucks there too

Chesney_Chambers · Post by **Chesney_Chambers** » 19 Feb 2007, 05:53

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:I'm going to address the Audley critiscisms because I think everyones blaming him for things he couldn't control:

1. Audley did his best in the boxing game and simply wasn't good enough. Yes he said 'I'll be world champ' and believed in himself - whats wrong with that? He wasn't good enough and failed but at least he tried. He never had the skill or natural fighting talent to make it but he got his physique in smashing condition tried to beat the best of Britain and won 1 and lost 2.

2. The accusation that Audley conned the British public and ripped off the license payer is bollox. Its the BBC that simply were inadequate at putting a good boxing show together. Its Audleys job to get the best deal he can and if the BBC offer him millions to headline as a novice more play to him.

3. Why is Audley called a 'BULLY'? Hes fought and beat smaller jhourneyman - which novice hasn't fought these types? Since hes got on the British stage he hasn't fought at a lower level. Calling Audley a bully is stupid. Is every fighter thats beat up a journeyman a bully? If anyones a bully in British boxing its Hatton for choosing opponents he knows he can beat up on while avoiding the top fighters around his weight.

4. Audley despite his usually dreary fights has given us 2 top domestic fights. This last 1 was a smashing back and forth fight and he put some hurt on Sprott despite his demise

5. Audley been delusiuonal - so what, its natural for a fighter to deny their weaknesses and hype their ability even if they are lacking.

6. Audley bad mouthing opponents - thats part of the boxing game.

Excellent post.

Oh well...you win some.....you lose some.

I'm still an Audley fan and irrespective of how his career turns out I'll respect him for trying to do things abit differently. He's a confident (self-assured) bloke which I admire and I respect him for putting it all on the line with some of the comments he's made thru his career.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 19 Feb 2007, 06:00

Let is go mate! ;)

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 19 Feb 2007, 06:02

stujones wrote:
E wrote:
nickd wrote:
The BBC signed Audley to a £1 million 10 fight deal when he turned pro. He is definitely a millionaire.
yeah but after taxes, plus paying manager / trainer fees on purses, pissing some up the wall at nightclubs etc I doubt he is now.

Even on assets and liquid
I would be very surprised if Harrison isn't a millionaire now, very surprised. Thats was just his first fight deal. I don't know how much he got for his ITV fights and fights on the BBC on his second deal with them.

Plus he was getting percentage (and a good percentage) of gate seats etc of the A force promotion early BBC deal, plus endorsements etc post Olympics. Weren't the majority of the experts saying he didn't need to even turn pro.

Well maybe he was/is a millionaire then - though with the USA training, entourage and top class trainers I'm not sure he's got too much left ( how many boxers do? )

But he must have always known, at the back of his mind, that he was on borrowed time with a chin that didn't really leave him too many options.

Which explains the ultra cautious attitude throughout his career. Not much fun for the fans, but understandable, as most in the same situation would've no doubt done the same.

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 19 Feb 2007, 06:32

I still cant get my head around it.. It was all going so well. Audley was punching with authority, had him down, looked the business.. and then whack. Audley out cold.. to SPROTT??!

Great result for Sprott, his tough match making and experienced showed, Audleys complete lack of also showed.

Felt sorry for Audley too, even though he's not been a nice man from the start. A lot of people will take pleasure in his laughable downfall. Its over big fella. Now where to hide your face?

An Olympic gold medallist isn't even good enough to win a British title.. Interesting how Williams, Sprott, and Skelton did nothing as amateurs.

AMIR KHAN & his legion of fans, take note......

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 19 Feb 2007, 07:05

An olympic gold medallist in a very weak competition.

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 19 Feb 2007, 07:33

I think Sprotts punch had echoes of Mcall against Lewis in the same arena, a bit on the wild side.

I'd pick Harrison to win a rematch but he has been exposed now and his aspirations are strictly limited to the domestic scene.

Perhaps he could try to use his 'celebrity' status to secure a stint on strictly come ballroom dancing or whatever it's called....

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 19 Feb 2007, 07:37

the post outlining audleys criticisms is being too generous.

the reason he is being called a bully is not because he takes on smaller opponents (which he cant really help being 6/5) but because, like most bullies, when given a decent clump he turns tail and is not so keen on a fight anymore.
bad mouthing his foes is part of the game - yes but audley took it too far and his refusal to shake hands before the first round is very detrimental to the nobility of our sport. (perhaps he is bigger than boxing itself)

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 19 Feb 2007, 07:37

Harrison to win a rematch? No way.

Harrison did nothing in that third round, shot his bolt in 6 minutes.

And why didn't someone tell Harrison he had been KTFO? Looked like a right plank thinking he could have continued. Even when they got him up after a couple of minutes down his legs were gone when they got him back up.

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 19 Feb 2007, 07:41

I thought Harrison was still on top mate. Whatever, I'll have a tenner with you if they ever rematch!

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 19 Feb 2007, 07:42

Definitely. Harrison was on top until Sprott started punching back, he did nothing in round 3 but try and cling on. Just think how tentative Harrison would be if he fights again after that KO.

THEBUTCH · Post by **THEBUTCH** » 19 Feb 2007, 08:54

I've got zero sympathy with Audley. For starters he was beaten fair and square. Actually, scrap that...he was COMPLETELY wiped out fair and sqaure.

When he got sparked all I could think of was his disgraceful outburst after beating a clearly underprepared and past his best Danny Williams, and how that revolting little speech has come back to haunt him. What a tit !

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 19 Feb 2007, 08:55

[quote="Max Molyneux"]

I think this shows clearly, that Audley was fine to continue, he's obviously in deep meditation, thinking about what he's going to do after he gets up.

THEBUTCH · Post by **THEBUTCH** » 19 Feb 2007, 09:10

Chesney_Chambers · Post by **Chesney_Chambers** » 19 Feb 2007, 10:46

harrygreb wrote:when given a decent clump he turns tail and is not so keen on a fight anymore.

Thats not the definition of a bully

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 19 Feb 2007, 11:00

THEBUTCH wrote:I've got zero sympathy with Audley. For starters he was beaten fair and square. Actually, scrap that...he was COMPLETELY wiped out fair and sqaure.

When he got sparked all I could think of was his disgraceful outburst after beating a clearly underprepared and past his best Danny Williams, and how that revolting little speech has come back to haunt him. What a tit !

I totally agree, undisputed champ by 2008 he said!... it'd be laughable if it wasnt so arrogant... at the end of the day Audelys made far more money from a failed boxing career than many far better and braver fighters made in much longer careers, ...I dont see any reason to feel sorry for Audely... you reap what you sow in this life and Audely talked the talk to extremes and then failed to walk the walk... he only has himself to blame for his unpopularity... remember this was the guy who was willing to take on a 42 year old disturbed Frank Bruno!!!... nuff said I think!... 8) bye bye Audely, I'm afraid I wont miss you!...

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 19 Feb 2007, 12:48

silkov wrote:
THEBUTCH wrote:I've got zero sympathy with Audley. For starters he was beaten fair and square. Actually, scrap that...he was COMPLETELY wiped out fair and sqaure.

When he got sparked all I could think of was his disgraceful outburst after beating a clearly underprepared and past his best Danny Williams, and how that revolting little speech has come back to haunt him. What a tit !
I totally agree, undisputed champ by 2008 he said!... it'd be laughable if it wasnt so arrogant... at the end of the day Audelys made far more money from a failed boxing career than many far better and braver fighters made in much longer careers, ...I dont see any reason to feel sorry for Audely... you reap what you sow in this life and Audely talked the talk to extremes and then failed to walk the walk... he only has himself to blame for his unpopularity... remember this was the guy who was willing to take on a 42 year old disturbed Frank Bruno!!!... nuff said I think!... 8) bye bye Audely, I'm afraid I wont miss you!...

Couldn't put it better myself.

That is what irks me about him the most.

Far more noble & courageous fighters haven't made anywhere near the money he has!

He should be made to pay back every penny he's made out of pro boxing.

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 19 Feb 2007, 13:17

[quote="Chesney_Chambers"][quote="harrygreb"]when given a decent clump he turns tail and is not so keen on a fight anymore.
[/quote]

Thats not the definition of a bully[/quote]

you dodo!!! of course its the definition of a bully. it may not be the OED def but we all know that a bully rules by fear and by being mouthy until someone stands up to him at which point said bully turns into the proverbial pussy cat - (see Mr A Harrison)

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 19 Feb 2007, 13:23

Goz wrote:I thought Harrison was still on top mate. Whatever, I'll have a tenner with you if they ever rematch!

Harrison would be the perfect opoonent for David Haye first venture into Heavyweight.

Anyone know if Harrison is still contracted to Warren?

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 19 Feb 2007, 13:26

steve689 wrote:Matt Skelton's post fight comments were spot on, Audley bad mouthed a lot of people on his way "up" and now he needs to eat humble pie. British champion inside five fights? He isn't even going to fight for the British title.

As soon as Sprott cranked up the pressure Harrison folded and got scared, just as i suspected but not as early.

Matt was spot on.

He looked really disappointed, as he knew that he should have been the one to end the farce that is Harrison's pro career last December.

Andy Mac · Post by **Andy Mac** » 19 Feb 2007, 14:42

I cant remember his name, but a politician once stated, when he thought it would stay within the 4 walls in which he said it. " Never underestimate the stupidity of the public." I think Harrison overestimated the stupidity of the " boxing " public.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 19 Feb 2007, 15:29

Harrison is finished, he always fought like a rabbit in headlights before getting knocked clean out.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 19 Feb 2007, 15:37

Audes his own worst enemy when it comes to his relationship with the public, after the Williams fight he had the chance to be modest and gain some points for having a decent personality but he totally blew it with a speech that Mussolini would have been proud of, ...he cant expect any sympathy now. I was a big fan of him in the early days and hoped he would make it when he promoted himself but he seems to have made the mistake of believing his own hype and he never learned from his mistakes in and out of the ring, I persoanally didnt want to see him hurt but he;s had all his chances I think.... he was still even making excuses yesterday saying that he hadnt fought his fight etc etc.... same old story... my patience ran out on him after the Williams fight to be honest... I'm very glad for Sprott, he;s grafted and come back from bad defeats and he doesnt go around shouting the odds... he deserves all the success he gets...

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 19 Feb 2007, 17:19

overhand_right wrote:I still cant get my head around it.. It was all going so well. Audley was punching with authority, had him down, looked the business.. and then whack. Audley out cold.. to SPROTT??!

Great result for Sprott, his tough match making and experienced showed, Audleys complete lack of also showed.

Felt sorry for Audley too, even though he's not been a nice man from the start. A lot of people will take pleasure in his laughable downfall. Its over big fella. Now where to hide your face?

An Olympic gold medallist isn't even good enough to win a British title.. Interesting how Williams, Sprott, and Skelton did nothing as amateurs.

AMIR KHAN & his legion of fans, take note......

You mention the amatuer game and that is it.

Audley is a nice boxer, textbook in many ways. He was suited to the amatuers, but in that game you cant rough an opponent up, cant hit on the break, cant push but or hit low.

It suited Audley down to the ground.

In the pros you can use rough house tactics and fight back with a bit of spice.

As soon as that happens Audley loses his composure and goes into panic stations.

Watch the fight, as soon as Sprott goes at him and starts slipping shots and roughing him up, Audley stops jabbing, no movement, he is there to be hit.

Its inevitable.

Audley could have had 3 gold medals by 2008, but he will NEVER win a professional world title.