There's an article about Williams & preview to the Gammer fight & in it, he asks whether he is shot or not?
It's quite a sad article in way, as he explains that he doesn't he know how far gone he is, until the bell rings for the Gammer fight.
I would suggest to Danny to take a leaf out of Sugar Ray Leonard's book.
SRL speciliased in comebacks, but even he has not come back since he was downed by the feather fisted Hector Camacho.
Danny should think of his loss to Harrison in the same light.
OK, he was ill prepared, but to he slaughtered by a guy who can't punch, tells you all you need to know.
Retire Danny.
You have taken your talent as far as it will go.
You have shown courage & fortitude at times, even if you did your training in Burger King! :P
Danny Williams: "Am I shot?"
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London Boy
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Re: Danny Williams: "Am I shot?"
Where did you read the article?.... its a shame but I think Danny will probably get stopped by Gammer... it certainly doesnt seem that he's going into this bout with any confidence in his ability...Syntax Error wrote:There's an article about Williams & preview to the Gammer fight & in it, he asks whether he is shot or not?
It's quite a sad article in way, as he explains that he doesn't he know how far gone he is, until the bell rings for the Gammer fight.
I would suggest to Danny to take a leaf out of Sugar Ray Leonard's book.
SRL speciliased in comebacks, but even he has not come back since he was downed by the feather fisted Hector Camacho.
Danny should think of his loss to Harrison in the same light.
OK, he was ill prepared, but to he slaughtered by a guy who can't punch, tells you all you need to know.
Retire Danny.
You have taken your talent as far as it will go.
You have shown courage & fortitude at times, even if you did your training in Burger King! :P
It shouldn't happen, way too soon from the Harrison drubbing. Let not forget he'd probably need 6 weeks to get into shape - so not much time to mull over his future.
Desire has always been a problem. Its his father who got him boxing, its his father who really had the dream. It was his father who Danny said he would discuss his future with after Harrison (so one must assume his father said, give it another go - cause Danny definately didn't look like he wanted to continue).
Can his father say he needs to be 17 stone to be effective.
Desire has always been a problem. Its his father who got him boxing, its his father who really had the dream. It was his father who Danny said he would discuss his future with after Harrison (so one must assume his father said, give it another go - cause Danny definately didn't look like he wanted to continue).
Can his father say he needs to be 17 stone to be effective.
Re: If danny loses to gammer.....
I would have thought that Danny accomplished most of his " fame " for his one handed fight with Potter, and his courage in the Klitchko fight. Not for beating the remnants of Tyson.boxrec wrote:maybe he should fight Kevin Mcbride, that would be interesting, as they are both rubbish, slow and both got famous for beating tyson. It'd be interesting to see who's better....
Re: Danny Williams: "Am I shot?"
BOXING NEWSsilkov wrote:Where did you read the article?.... its a shame but I think Danny will probably get stopped by Gammer... it certainly doesnt seem that he's going into this bout with any confidence in his ability...Syntax Error wrote:There's an article about Williams & preview to the Gammer fight & in it, he asks whether he is shot or not?
It's quite a sad article in way, as he explains that he doesn't he know how far gone he is, until the bell rings for the Gammer fight.
I would suggest to Danny to take a leaf out of Sugar Ray Leonard's book.
SRL speciliased in comebacks, but even he has not come back since he was downed by the feather fisted Hector Camacho.
Danny should think of his loss to Harrison in the same light.
OK, he was ill prepared, but to he slaughtered by a guy who can't punch, tells you all you need to know.
Retire Danny.
You have taken your talent as far as it will go.
You have shown courage & fortitude at times, even if you did your training in Burger King! :P
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WildWaylon
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Poor Danny, he doesnt need anyone to tell him he is in serious decline, he knows only too well himself - He is obviously not up for the fight mentally and its almost for certain he will be stopped by Gammer who just 2 years ago wouldnt have stood a chance against him - I hope I am wrong and Danny wins and then announces his retirement - It would be nice to see Danny go out with a decent win - It would be horrible to see him on the canvas in what has to be his last fight - He has been a credit to British boxing and given us a lot of entertainment but sadly there is little left in the tank and his confidence and will to win appear to have gone also - Whatever happens he will leave boxing with a lot of respect.
Scott Gammer defends his British heavyweight title against mandatory challenger and former champion Danny Williams at the Sports Centre in Neath next Friday.
"Gammer the Hammer" won the title with an impressive nine-round stoppage of Chesterfield's outgunned Mark Krence in front of 1600 noisy fans at Carmarthen Showground last June. But when burly Scott received the magnificent Lonsdale Belt it was too small to fit around his waist.
"I hoped no one would notice," he laughed. "My boxing dream since I started as an eight-year-old was to wear the belt - and now it won't fit."
He retained with a clear decision over raw Micky Steeds at Port Talbot in October.
Williams has his own, more severe problems. The Brixton man came in at 20st 8lbs for his 12-rounder against Bedford bear Matt Skelton in Cardiff last July and was easily outboxed by a 38-year-old brawler he had previously wobbled and outpointed. Williams was then butchered in three rounds by Audley Harrison - a man he had previously floored and outpointed. He took the Harrison rematch at a week's notice for the injured Skelton but lack of fitness played no part in the first 30 seconds when Harrison jumped on him, busted him up, staggered him and paved the way for what followed.
So the challenger looks to have slipped and indicates he wants to go out with a win - and what better way to end a career than winning a British title?
Danny first challenged for the title before Gammer had even turned pro, in a sensational fight with Mark Potter at Wembley in 2000. He suffered a double dislocation of the right shoulder (it popped out, slipped back in, then came out again) and fought on regardless and found a fight-winning left uppercut in the sixth. Unbelievable.
Unsurprisingly, he hung on to the Lonsdale belt for the next four years (winning it outright), until two-time stoppage victim Michael Sprott outscored him in a shocker at Wembley in 2004 - but it doesn't look so shocking now.
Danny bounced back to ruin the comeback of Mike Tyson in Louisville but copped a beating against Vitali Klitschko for the WBC crown in Las Vegas in December 2004. He returned again to snap the unbeaten records of Harrison and Skelton, then let himself down in the quick Skelton rematch, despite pre-fight claims he was in the shape of his of his life. Williams, who admits to a love of cake and chocolate, must have loved plenty in that oxygen tent.
Harrison also softened him up a fight later. But, still only 33, a pro 12 years, his great experience gives him a shout on Friday.
To the champion, unbeaten in 18 and from Pembroke Dock in South Wales. Gammer turned pro with a string of first-round wins but was held to a six-round draw by Lithuania's unheralded Mendauga Kulikauskas in Bridgend in 2003. Southpaw Kulikauskas went on beat Herbie Hide on cuts and floor Roman Greenberg. Hardly a bad draw.
Gammer has won 11 on the spin since, including two decisions over Isle of Dogs thumper Steeds and two stoppages over useful Krence. An improving heavyweight at 30, he has strength, workrate, decent boxing skills, decent handspeed - he goes well to the body. And he's one of those proud Welshmen who won't look for an easy way out (his shorts are designed in the colours of the Welsh flag), especially on home turf.
If boxing is all about timing, Gammer may be timing it right in the biggest fight of his career.
But he's fought at a much lower level than Danny. He also has one of those noses that bleeds in every fight. As for his chin, he suffered a heavy knockdown against Armenia's Suren Kalachyan three fights ago in London's ExCel Arena in December 2005. He beat the count to get home by one point (57-56), but think of stocky Tyson and you get a sense of what could happen to stocky Gammer. Danny is a proven puncher (29 of his 36 victims taken out). The last thing they lose is their punch.
''It has all the makings of a cracking fight,'' said Gammer's manager Paul Boyce. "Scott has made tremendous progress over the past year. The way Williams fought against in his last two fights, Scott will beat him. He has the power, skill and the temperament.''
He also has a particularly good left hook.
But this one really hinges on how much Danny has left. Like he asks in Boxing News, "Am I shot?"
"Gammer the Hammer" won the title with an impressive nine-round stoppage of Chesterfield's outgunned Mark Krence in front of 1600 noisy fans at Carmarthen Showground last June. But when burly Scott received the magnificent Lonsdale Belt it was too small to fit around his waist.
"I hoped no one would notice," he laughed. "My boxing dream since I started as an eight-year-old was to wear the belt - and now it won't fit."
He retained with a clear decision over raw Micky Steeds at Port Talbot in October.
Williams has his own, more severe problems. The Brixton man came in at 20st 8lbs for his 12-rounder against Bedford bear Matt Skelton in Cardiff last July and was easily outboxed by a 38-year-old brawler he had previously wobbled and outpointed. Williams was then butchered in three rounds by Audley Harrison - a man he had previously floored and outpointed. He took the Harrison rematch at a week's notice for the injured Skelton but lack of fitness played no part in the first 30 seconds when Harrison jumped on him, busted him up, staggered him and paved the way for what followed.
So the challenger looks to have slipped and indicates he wants to go out with a win - and what better way to end a career than winning a British title?
Danny first challenged for the title before Gammer had even turned pro, in a sensational fight with Mark Potter at Wembley in 2000. He suffered a double dislocation of the right shoulder (it popped out, slipped back in, then came out again) and fought on regardless and found a fight-winning left uppercut in the sixth. Unbelievable.
Unsurprisingly, he hung on to the Lonsdale belt for the next four years (winning it outright), until two-time stoppage victim Michael Sprott outscored him in a shocker at Wembley in 2004 - but it doesn't look so shocking now.
Danny bounced back to ruin the comeback of Mike Tyson in Louisville but copped a beating against Vitali Klitschko for the WBC crown in Las Vegas in December 2004. He returned again to snap the unbeaten records of Harrison and Skelton, then let himself down in the quick Skelton rematch, despite pre-fight claims he was in the shape of his of his life. Williams, who admits to a love of cake and chocolate, must have loved plenty in that oxygen tent.
Harrison also softened him up a fight later. But, still only 33, a pro 12 years, his great experience gives him a shout on Friday.
To the champion, unbeaten in 18 and from Pembroke Dock in South Wales. Gammer turned pro with a string of first-round wins but was held to a six-round draw by Lithuania's unheralded Mendauga Kulikauskas in Bridgend in 2003. Southpaw Kulikauskas went on beat Herbie Hide on cuts and floor Roman Greenberg. Hardly a bad draw.
Gammer has won 11 on the spin since, including two decisions over Isle of Dogs thumper Steeds and two stoppages over useful Krence. An improving heavyweight at 30, he has strength, workrate, decent boxing skills, decent handspeed - he goes well to the body. And he's one of those proud Welshmen who won't look for an easy way out (his shorts are designed in the colours of the Welsh flag), especially on home turf.
If boxing is all about timing, Gammer may be timing it right in the biggest fight of his career.
But he's fought at a much lower level than Danny. He also has one of those noses that bleeds in every fight. As for his chin, he suffered a heavy knockdown against Armenia's Suren Kalachyan three fights ago in London's ExCel Arena in December 2005. He beat the count to get home by one point (57-56), but think of stocky Tyson and you get a sense of what could happen to stocky Gammer. Danny is a proven puncher (29 of his 36 victims taken out). The last thing they lose is their punch.
''It has all the makings of a cracking fight,'' said Gammer's manager Paul Boyce. "Scott has made tremendous progress over the past year. The way Williams fought against in his last two fights, Scott will beat him. He has the power, skill and the temperament.''
He also has a particularly good left hook.
But this one really hinges on how much Danny has left. Like he asks in Boxing News, "Am I shot?"
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Max Molyneux
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Danny Williams is a class above the likes of Gammer, people shouldn't forget that. He might well box rusty and unmotivated but when he hits Gammer on his chin, it will be a different world for the Welshman, he won't shove Danny around like he's one of these Krence/Steeds shithouses.
How about giving Danny a bit of credit for entertaining us for years and then giving this bum a chance of glory in his own back yard? I know who my support is with.
How about giving Danny a bit of credit for entertaining us for years and then giving this bum a chance of glory in his own back yard? I know who my support is with.
This fight shouldn't be happening. Gammer and his team should have accepted the £100,000 to fight Audley on ITV. The fact that they didn't means I have to question their ambitions. Instead Gammer is fighting a man who really should have hung them up by now. As Stu says, it was Danny's Dad who wanted him to be a boxer. And whilst I would never, ever fault Danny's heart in the ring (Beating Potter with one arm, and taking a terrible beating from Vitali, without ever wanting to quit), I do feel that his heart is simply not in this boxing lark at all, not any more. He doesn't want to be fighting, so to see him being rolled out for Gammer is sad to see. He may well have enough left to beat Gammer, but I doubt it.
Should we feel bad for Danny? Maybe..but he has nobody but himself to blame for his recent poor peformances. His heart is no longer in it but I'm sure he's happy to pick up another small payday and a shot at the British title after 2 convincing losses.
Not sure what shape Danny is in though I think Gammer will hit and move enough to win a decision. You can get Gammer at +130.
Anyone seen any decision/KO props?
Not sure what shape Danny is in though I think Gammer will hit and move enough to win a decision. You can get Gammer at +130.
Anyone seen any decision/KO props?
Exactly, some of the post here sound like its some old great fighter who is WAY past his prime and only return to ease financial pressure and cause Boxing is the only thing he knows what to do... Kinda like seeing Duran at Middleweight fighting William Joppy.lvlarc_uk wrote:Should we feel bad for Danny? Maybe..but he has nobody but himself to blame for his recent poor peformances. His heart is no longer in it but I'm sure he's happy to pick up another small payday and a shot at the British title after 2 convincing losses.
Not sure what shape Danny is in though I think Gammer will hit and move enough to win a decision. You can get Gammer at +130.
Anyone seen any decision/KO props?
Its Danny Williams - he was "looking" shot at 30, not because of his great ring wars - but because he is a pie boy who isn't dedicated enough to fulfil his talent. Whatever you thought he could have been , for some here its European at best, for other (like me) its a version of the world title. However, I am sure we are in agreement that even if you think Danny fulfilled his potential - it wasn't through the great desire he showed in the training gym.
Tough guy, but frustrating and I have no sympathy and actually very little respect for the way he has conned the fans and never even gave HIMSELF the opportunity to see how far his talent would take him.
Danny in 2005/2006 treated the sport and his opponents with little respect with his conditioning and I don't feel bad that he has gone from Vegas to Neath in a short space.... it could have come sooner the shape he's been in.
Harsh words maybe, but I don't have much time for people who waste talent.... and Danny has done that IMO.
In my opinion as much as I rate Danny as a boxer (check my archive) and much as I don't like Harrison as a person. Danny had what he DESERVED last December- this what should have happend the year before (no matter how chuffed I was). You treat the game with a the lack of respect that Danny has - it usually pays you back. How many beatings/poor performances does he need to finally see that he cannot fight above 18 stone. I'm sick of the B/S training regimes and I was disgusted when Danny fully admitted that he done fook all training for his 3rd biggest fight of his career (vs Harrison) and the fight in which the most people in the Uk would be watching of his career - the fight he craved for years.... Disgracefull really.
Harsh words I think, Danny has had his fair share of wars, he's never been the same since the Klitchenko fight where he took a fearful drubbing, yet kept coming back for more... it shouldnt be forgotten that while his confidence has never been high and his heart has not always been in his training unlike Audely Dannys never been short of courage inside the ring and he deserves respect for that at least imo... as for him not living up to his talent, considering he's never really liked boxing and has usually lacked confidence its a credit to Danny that he took his career as far as he did.... he wasnt a world beater ok but he didnt do that badly all things considered, he certainly livened up the domestic scene for a good while and entertained us keyboard warriors more than we deserve over the years...stujones wrote:Exactly, some of the post here sound like its some old great fighter who is WAY past his prime and only return to ease financial pressure and cause Boxing is the only thing he knows what to do... Kinda like seeing Duran at Middleweight fighting William Joppy.lvlarc_uk wrote:Should we feel bad for Danny? Maybe..but he has nobody but himself to blame for his recent poor peformances. His heart is no longer in it but I'm sure he's happy to pick up another small payday and a shot at the British title after 2 convincing losses.
Not sure what shape Danny is in though I think Gammer will hit and move enough to win a decision. You can get Gammer at +130.
Anyone seen any decision/KO props?
Its Danny Williams - he was "looking" shot at 30, not because of his great ring wars - but because he is a pie boy who isn't dedicated enough to fulfil his talent. Whatever you thought he could have been , for some here its European at best, for other (like me) its a version of the world title. However, I am sure we are in agreement that even if you think Danny fulfilled his potential - it wasn't through the great desire he showed in the training gym.
Tough guy, but frustrating and I have no sympathy and actually very little respect for the way he has conned the fans and never even gave HIMSELF the opportunity to see how far his talent would take him.
Danny in 2005/2006 treated the sport and his opponents with little respect with his conditioning and I don't feel bad that he has gone from Vegas to Neath in a short space.... it could have come sooner the shape he's been in.
Harsh words maybe, but I don't have much time for people who waste talent.... and Danny has done that IMO.
In my opinion as much as I rate Danny as a boxer (check my archive) and much as I don't like Harrison as a person. Danny had what he DESERVED last December- this what should have happend the year before (no matter how chuffed I was). You treat the game with a the lack of respect that Danny has - it usually pays you back. How many beatings/poor performances does he need to finally see that he cannot fight above 18 stone. I'm sick of the B/S training regimes and I was disgusted when Danny fully admitted that he done fook all training for his 3rd biggest fight of his career (vs Harrison) and the fight in which the most people in the Uk would be watching of his career - the fight he craved for years.... Disgracefull really.
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kevin
- Heavyweight
The thing is if he has been training (and he says he has a new trainer who he won't name, I've heard a rumour who it is and I am going to ask them when I speak to them later today.) he could well become British champion again on Friday night if one of those big right hands connects on Scott's chin.
Williams is a class above anybody that Gammer has fought as yet, and they are taking a risk fighting him imho.
Williams is a class above anybody that Gammer has fought as yet, and they are taking a risk fighting him imho.
stujones wrote:Exactly, some of the post here sound like its some old great fighter who is WAY past his prime and only return to ease financial pressure and cause Boxing is the only thing he knows what to do... Kinda like seeing Duran at Middleweight fighting William Joppy.lvlarc_uk wrote:Should we feel bad for Danny? Maybe..but he has nobody but himself to blame for his recent poor peformances. His heart is no longer in it but I'm sure he's happy to pick up another small payday and a shot at the British title after 2 convincing losses.
Not sure what shape Danny is in though I think Gammer will hit and move enough to win a decision. You can get Gammer at +130.
Anyone seen any decision/KO props?
Its Danny Williams - he was "looking" shot at 30, not because of his great ring wars - but because he is a pie boy who isn't dedicated enough to fulfil his talent. Whatever you thought he could have been , for some here its European at best, for other (like me) its a version of the world title. However, I am sure we are in agreement that even if you think Danny fulfilled his potential - it wasn't through the great desire he showed in the training gym.
Tough guy, but frustrating and I have no sympathy and actually very little respect for the way he has conned the fans and never even gave HIMSELF the opportunity to see how far his talent would take him.
Danny in 2005/2006 treated the sport and his opponents with little respect with his conditioning and I don't feel bad that he has gone from Vegas to Neath in a short space.... it could have come sooner the shape he's been in.
Harsh words maybe, but I don't have much time for people who waste talent.... and Danny has done that IMO.
In my opinion as much as I rate Danny as a boxer (check my archive) and much as I don't like Harrison as a person. Danny had what he DESERVED last December- this what should have happend the year before (no matter how chuffed I was). You treat the game with a the lack of respect that Danny has - it usually pays you back. How many beatings/poor performances does he need to finally see that he cannot fight above 18 stone. I'm sick of the B/S training regimes and I was disgusted when Danny fully admitted that he done fook all training for his 3rd biggest fight of his career (vs Harrison) and the fight in which the most people in the Uk would be watching of his career - the fight he craved for years.... Disgracefull really.
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Syntax Error
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Re: Danny Williams: "Am I shot?"
It's in the latest issue of Boxing News.silkov wrote:Where did you read the article?.... its a shame but I think Danny will probably get stopped by Gammer... it certainly doesnt seem that he's going into this bout with any confidence in his ability...Syntax Error wrote:There's an article about Williams & preview to the Gammer fight & in it, he asks whether he is shot or not?
It's quite a sad article in way, as he explains that he doesn't he know how far gone he is, until the bell rings for the Gammer fight.
I would suggest to Danny to take a leaf out of Sugar Ray Leonard's book.
SRL speciliased in comebacks, but even he has not come back since he was downed by the feather fisted Hector Camacho.
Danny should think of his loss to Harrison in the same light.
OK, he was ill prepared, but to he slaughtered by a guy who can't punch, tells you all you need to know.
Retire Danny.
You have taken your talent as far as it will go.
You have shown courage & fortitude at times, even if you did your training in Burger King! :P
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yiddo14
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Maybe it was a tad harsh - he's been brave... But I think the condition he was in vs Klitchsko was poor. He might not ever been a world beater, but he has certainly been better than the 19 stone fighter who waddled vs Klitchsko. I don't want to call a guy who took such a pounding and kept on plodding slowly a disgrace - cause he showed bravery beyond the call.... but boxing is a harsh game and the kicking he got was justified to the lack of respect he showed the sport in the build up.silkov wrote:Harsh words I think, Danny has had his fair share of wars, he's never been the same since the Klitchenko fight where he took a fearful drubbing, yet kept coming back for more... it shouldnt be forgotten that while his confidence has never been high and his heart has not always been in his training unlike Audely Dannys never been short of courage inside the ring and he deserves respect for that at least imo... as for him not living up to his talent, considering he's never really liked boxing and has usually lacked confidence its a credit to Danny that he took his career as far as he did.... he wasnt a world beater ok but he didnt do that badly all things considered, he certainly livened up the domestic scene for a good while and entertained us keyboard warriors more than we deserve over the years...stujones wrote:Exactly, some of the post here sound like its some old great fighter who is WAY past his prime and only return to ease financial pressure and cause Boxing is the only thing he knows what to do... Kinda like seeing Duran at Middleweight fighting William Joppy.lvlarc_uk wrote:Should we feel bad for Danny? Maybe..but he has nobody but himself to blame for his recent poor peformances. His heart is no longer in it but I'm sure he's happy to pick up another small payday and a shot at the British title after 2 convincing losses.
Not sure what shape Danny is in though I think Gammer will hit and move enough to win a decision. You can get Gammer at +130.
Anyone seen any decision/KO props?
Its Danny Williams - he was "looking" shot at 30, not because of his great ring wars - but because he is a pie boy who isn't dedicated enough to fulfil his talent. Whatever you thought he could have been , for some here its European at best, for other (like me) its a version of the world title. However, I am sure we are in agreement that even if you think Danny fulfilled his potential - it wasn't through the great desire he showed in the training gym.
Tough guy, but frustrating and I have no sympathy and actually very little respect for the way he has conned the fans and never even gave HIMSELF the opportunity to see how far his talent would take him.
Danny in 2005/2006 treated the sport and his opponents with little respect with his conditioning and I don't feel bad that he has gone from Vegas to Neath in a short space.... it could have come sooner the shape he's been in.
Harsh words maybe, but I don't have much time for people who waste talent.... and Danny has done that IMO.
In my opinion as much as I rate Danny as a boxer (check my archive) and much as I don't like Harrison as a person. Danny had what he DESERVED last December- this what should have happend the year before (no matter how chuffed I was). You treat the game with a the lack of respect that Danny has - it usually pays you back. How many beatings/poor performances does he need to finally see that he cannot fight above 18 stone. I'm sick of the B/S training regimes and I was disgusted when Danny fully admitted that he done fook all training for his 3rd biggest fight of his career (vs Harrison) and the fight in which the most people in the Uk would be watching of his career - the fight he craved for years.... Disgracefull really.
What I cannot understand for the life of my is that people who speak to Danny have often said that Danny believes he fights better at 19stone.... is he blind or just doesn't own a video.
I haven't been entertained by Danny since the Tyson fight - which was the biggest problem of his career. It didn't matter if you had no leg speed yourself against Tyson.... cause he fought one way - at you. That was a good performance and that WAS a performance were he needed to bulk up. The rest, when he has been the smaller man against jabbers he needed to be mobile.
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DIRT SUGAR
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Danny hasn't been the same since the awful beating he took from Klitschko.
When you look at the tough fights he's had one after the other in the last several years it's no wonder he's not the same fighter.
He beat Tyson in a real slugfest, took a real shellacking from Klitschko, had two very draining tussles versus Skelton, beat Audley then just came apart in the rematch.
Hopefully for his sake he'll be able to muster enough to beat Gammer and retire.
When you look at the tough fights he's had one after the other in the last several years it's no wonder he's not the same fighter.
He beat Tyson in a real slugfest, took a real shellacking from Klitschko, had two very draining tussles versus Skelton, beat Audley then just came apart in the rematch.
Hopefully for his sake he'll be able to muster enough to beat Gammer and retire.