Bobby Chacon, Cornelius Boza-Edwards, Rafael Limon

[knockout artist]

These three guys put on some great fights between them.

How do you rate the fights they had? 8) :P

[wsbuf]

I foget which fight between Limon and Chacon it was, but I thought at the time it was the best fight ever. Chacon could barely raise his hands in late rounds, but pulled out a gutsy victory.

[Broncano]

That must be Chacon-Limon IV you're talking about. I believe it was Fight of the year in 1982. I also remember that the last round knockdown of Limon gave Chacon the one point win in the cards.

Back then I saw quite a few of Limon's fights (Arguello, Navarrete, Bethelmy, Boza Edwards, 2 of his 4 fights with Chacon) and eventhough he wasn't top notch at the time, you could count on one thing: there was no such thing as a dull moment with the mexican southpaw.
I have yet to see a boring "Bazooka" Limon fight.

[sweetsci]

Remember when Bazooka yanked Sharmba Mitchell's trunks down? He certainly added some life to that fight.

[MightyWarrior]

When Bazooka fought Boza, he made the comment before the fight that'd he'd kill Boza, as that's what Mexican's do to Englishmen

This was just after Johnny Owen died fighting Lupe Pintor ( though he was Welsh )

Thankfully Boza kicked Limon's backside 8)

[The Keed]

Remember when Bazooka yanked Sharmba Mitchell's trunks down? He certainly added some life to that fight.

Damn, I didn't realize until you said that that Limon fought until 1994. Poor guy.

I also see now, looking at his record, that he was behind on the cards in his title fights with Rolando Navarette (another one of those exciting '80s 130-pounders, whose name belongs in the title of this thread) and Chung Il-Choi (who??? ).

Also, it says there that his win over Chacon in their title fight was controversial. Could that be right?? I thought Chacon clearly won, and the scores were much closer than they should've been (unless that is what's controversial about the decision, but the comment doesn't specify that).

[gensu3k1]

Remember when Bazooka yanked Sharmba Mitchell's trunks down? He certainly added some life to that fight.

Damn, I didn't realize until you said that that Limon fought until 1994. Poor guy.

I also see now, looking at his record, that he was behind on the cards in his title fights with Rolando Navarette (another one of those exciting '80s 130-pounders, whose name belongs in the title of this thread) and Chung Il-Choi (who??? ).

Also, it says there that his win over Chacon in their title fight was controversial. Could that be right?? I thought Chacon clearly won, and the scores were much closer than they should've been (unless that is what's controversial about the decision, but the comment doesn't specify that).

Keed, I asked about that note on Chacon's record in the record queries forum and didn't get a response. It's odd. I've scored that fight several times, and always have Chacon winning by at least 2 points.

Beginning with Limon-Boza Edwards, the WBC title lineage gave us some of the greatest fights of all time. The fights involving Chacon, Limon, Boza-Edwards, Navarette and Choi are ALL classics. The only important one I have yet to see is Limon-Boza Edwards. Here's how I rank the fights in this five-way rivalry:

1. Chacon vs. Limon IV. The greatest fight I have ever seen. Has to be seen to be believed.

2. Chacon vs. Boza-Edwards II. One of the 10 greatest fights I've ever seen. Unbelievable, ultra-dramatic action.

3. Limon vs. Navarette. Navarette boxes Limon's ears off (something that happened to Bazooka a lot) until Limon rallies and knocks him out.

4. Limon vs. Choi. Choi completely dominates Limon, to an even greater degree than Navarette did, until Limon stages a sudden rally and stops him with body shots. Until that point, Choi had probably won every minute of the fight. Set the stage for Chacon-Limon IV.

5. Chacon vs. Boza-Edwards I. Tough, grueling action. Chacon almost knocks Boza out in the late rounds, but Boza recovers and puts a beating on Chacon.

6. Chacon vs. Limon III. No complete version exists, but what we have shows tough, grueling warfare. THIS one was the controversial decision.

7. Navarette vs. Boza-Edwards. Boza's chin lets him down.

8. Navarette vs. Choi. No good copies out there. If I found a better copy I'd probably rank it higher.

9. Chacon vs. Limon II. A strange circumstance. Chacon was leading on the scorecards when the fight was stopped due to an accidental butt, but under "California rules," that only gave Bobby a draw. It was implied by the ring announcer that if Chacon had been behind that Limon would have gotten a victory, which is highly unfair. This is probably what accelerated the blood feud between Chacon and Limon.

[The Keed]

Remember when Bazooka yanked Sharmba Mitchell's trunks down? He certainly added some life to that fight.

Damn, I didn't realize until you said that that Limon fought until 1994. Poor guy.

I also see now, looking at his record, that he was behind on the cards in his title fights with Rolando Navarette (another one of those exciting '80s 130-pounders, whose name belongs in the title of this thread) and Chung Il-Choi (who??? ).

Also, it says there that his win over Chacon in their title fight was controversial. Could that be right?? I thought Chacon clearly won, and the scores were much closer than they should've been (unless that is what's controversial about the decision, but the comment doesn't specify that).

Keed, I asked about that note on Chacon's record in the record queries forum and didn't get a response. It's odd. I've scored that fight several times, and always have Chacon winning by at least 2 points.

Beginning with Limon-Boza Edwards, the WBC title lineage gave us some of the greatest fights of all time. The fights involving Chacon, Limon, Boza-Edwards, Navarette and Choi are ALL classics. The only important one I have yet to see is Limon-Boza Edwards. Here's how I rank the fights in this five-way rivalry:

1. Chacon vs. Limon IV. The greatest fight I have ever seen. Has to be seen to be believed.

2. Chacon vs. Boza-Edwards II. One of the 10 greatest fights I've ever seen. Unbelievable, ultra-dramatic action.

3. Limon vs. Navarette. Navarette boxes Limon's ears off (something that happened to Bazooka a lot) until Limon rallies and knocks him out.

4. Limon vs. Choi. Choi completely dominates Limon, to an even greater degree than Navarette did, until Limon stages a sudden rally and stops him with body shots. Until that point, Choi had probably won every minute of the fight. Set the stage for Chacon-Limon IV.

5. Chacon vs. Boza-Edwards I. Tough, grueling action. Chacon almost knocks Boza out in the late rounds, but Boza recovers and puts a beating on Chacon.

6. Chacon vs. Limon III. No complete version exists, but what we have shows tough, grueling warfare. THIS one was the controversial decision.

7. Navarette vs. Boza-Edwards. Boza's chin lets him down.

8. Navarette vs. Choi. No good copies out there. If I found a better copy I'd probably rank it higher.

9. Chacon vs. Limon II. A strange circumstance. Chacon was leading on the scorecards when the fight was stopped due to an accidental butt, but under "California rules," that only gave Bobby a draw. It was implied by the ring announcer that if Chacon had been behind that Limon would have gotten a victory, which is highly unfair. This is probably what accelerated the blood feud between Chacon and Limon.

Thanks a lot. There was a time when I was trying to build up a supply of all these fights, but then I got distracted. I should probably get back to doing that...

As of now, I have Chacon-Limon IV and Chacon-Boza II, so I guess I have the two best ones on your list. I've also seen highlights of Chacon-Boza I, Boza-Limon, and Limon-Choi. Boza-Limon is supposed to be as good as any of them (and from accounts I've read, was probably Boza's best performance ever).

[joonie73]

Remember when Bazooka yanked Sharmba Mitchell's trunks down? He certainly added some life to that fight.

Damn, I didn't realize until you said that that Limon fought until 1994. Poor guy.

I also see now, looking at his record, that he was behind on the cards in his title fights with Rolando Navarette (another one of those exciting '80s 130-pounders, whose name belongs in the title of this thread) and Chung Il-Choi (who??? ).

Also, it says there that his win over Chacon in their title fight was controversial. Could that be right?? I thought Chacon clearly won, and the scores were much closer than they should've been (unless that is what's controversial about the decision, but the comment doesn't specify that).

The Keed,

Chung-Il Choi was a decorated amateur & one of the supreme pure talents ever to come out of Asia. Unfortunately, he had an awful chin & that was his undoing, as he lost 2 thrilling fights to Navarette & Limon, two fantastic wars.

[gensu3k1]

The Keed,

Chung-Il Choi was a decorated amateur & one of the supreme pure talents ever to come out of Asia. Unfortunately, he had an awful chin & that was his undoing, as he lost 2 thrilling fights to Navarette & Limon, two fantastic wars.

In this five-way rivalry, Choi was probably the one with the most boxing skill.

[joonie73]

The Keed,

Chung-Il Choi was a decorated amateur & one of the supreme pure talents ever to come out of Asia. Unfortunately, he had an awful chin & that was his undoing, as he lost 2 thrilling fights to Navarette & Limon, two fantastic wars.

In this five-way rivalry, Choi was probably the one with the most boxing skill.

By far. I think Choi would've stopped Navarette if the round didn't end after Navarette was knocked down in the middle rounds. A beautiful, unknown fighter.