Boxing's Tomato Cans

[HomicideHenry]

I thought maybe there should be a thread about the guys who never quite made it in the sport. The bleeders, the one hitters, palookas, the whole nine yards 8)

To make the thing more challenging you can write the name of a boxer and the next poster has to figure out a tomato can fighter whose name begins with the previous boxers last letter of their last name.

Example:

Bruce Strauss (first boxer) last letter in name 'S'

(pick fighter with a name that starts in 'S') Sammy Scaff (second boxer)

Get the picture? 8)

But you don't have to do that if you don't want to, as I said before, it's just more of a challenge and makes it a tad bit more interesting.


First guy on this list goes back to MW club fighter Mike Hallacy, who was such a perennial bleeder that he was often announced as 'Mike Hallacy, wearing the green trunks and red blood'

[BoxBuzz]

There used to be a place for fighter who could bleed and continue....Basilio comes to mind....he might not make top 10 status today...not because he couldnt beat the competition but because he could get cut and look bad while beating the best. Tomato Can is what he might be labeled today...and yet we know better.

I reluctantly have come to understand that it is best for today's feminized society to not allow such fighters much advertizing or risk facing even greater restraints on the sport. But if we could come up with some kind of artificial skin toughener for those with these tendencies I'd love to see it implemented. I hate it when a fight is ended on a cut.

Sorry to digress from your original premise here. ......

[HeavyHitters]

How about Marcus Rhode?

[muray]

add Frankie Hines

[HomicideHenry]

I here you BoxBuzz. In the old days they had wars, today or at least last decade or so they've stopped fights on a sneeze.

[barry]

A lot of the early fighters used beef brine to toughen their skin. Dempsey used it, well actually a big percentage of fighters from that era used it. Pickled the skin.

[barry]

Below is a list that I start a couple of years ago, which all of the fighters listed had at least 50 career losses, but most had more losses. And as I always state, the format here on the forum will probably look horrible, but I have it in even columns on microsoft word also if anyone wanted a copy.

TL= Total Losses
W= Wins
L=Losses
D=Draws
KO=Knockouts
TB=Total Bouts
LKO=Lost by Knockout
CLKO= Consecutive Losses by Knockout


TL Boxer W L D KO TB LKO CLKO Active Birthplace
276 Reggie Strickland 66 276 17 14 363 -- -- 1987-- United States
216 Peter Buckley 31 216 11 8 258 -- -- 1989- England
164 Donnie Penelton 13 164 5 5 182 32 -- 1990-2005 United States
162 Simmie Black 35 162 4 8 201 95 -- 1971-1996 United States
155 Arnold “Kid” Sheppard 89 155 36 27 280 14 -- 1923-1939 Wales
152 “Tiger” Bert Ison 96 152 40 19 289 45 -- 1929-1939 England
141 Brian Coleman 24 141 7 5 172 21 -- 1991- England
129 Seamus Casey 30 129 5 5 164 33 -- 1984-1999 England
122 Jerry Strickland 13 122 0 5 136 78 19 1974-2000 --
120 Frankie Hines 17 120 5 11 143 77 -- 1980-2002 United States
115 Joe Grim 40 115 21 15 179 -- -- 1900-1913 Italy
109 Lee Cargle 34 109 1 17 146 27 -- 1982-2006 United States
108 Lew Perez 60 108 19 18 187 -- -- 1942-1950 United States
106 Ernie Smith 13 106 5 1 125 12 -- 1998-2006 England
106 Dean Bramhald 42 106 15 9 163 25 -- 1984-1998 England
104 Benji Singleton 26 104 5 18 136 17 -- 1993-2006 United States
101 Danny Wofford --
101 Walter Cowans --
98 Winston Burnett --
95 Kenneth Bentley --
94 George Marsden 183 94 36 58 313 22 -- 1927-1946 England
93 Jose Pagan Rivera --
91 Keith Jones --
91 “Wild” Bill McDowell 129 91 25 25 247 28 -- 1933-1948 United States
87 Tony Booth --
87 Des Gargano -- 87 122 1985-1999 England
*86 Jozef Kubovsky (Lakatos) 13 86 13 4 112 28 -- 1994-2006 Slovakia
86 Brian Yates --
86 Graham McGrath -- 86 112 1992-1999 England
85 Arv Mittoo --
85 Giuseppe Agate 16 85 7 7 109 10 -- 1973-1984 Italy
85 Arrow Abu -- 85 99 5 1969-1978 --
85 Len Wickwar 337 85 42 93 465 37 -- 1928-1947 England
84 Jerry Powers 54 84 18 5 156 13 -- 1960-1977 United States
84 Karl Taylor --
84 Miguel Matthews 15 84 11 4 110 --
84 Johnny Cockfield --
83 Jerry Fiorello 61 83 18 14 162 4 -- 1938-1947 United States
83 Jim Kaczmarek --
82 Billy Marsh 50 82 15 --
82 Young Farrell --
81 Manuel Baptista --
80 Dick Loadman 75 80 33 8 189 -- -- 1912-1923 United States
80 Angel Robinson Garcia 134 80 21 53 235 -- -- 1955-1978 Cuba
80 Paul Murray --
79 Jake Torrance --
78 Tommy Tiger
78 Al Duarte --
77 Tommy Tibbs 58 77 4 14 139 -- -- 1950-1972 United States
77 Joes Luis Ribeiro 7 77 11 2 96 11 -- 1975-1984 Italy
76 Dave Hinds 7 76 0 4 83 16 -- 1995-2005 England
76 Pete Galiano 33 76 12 9 122 33 -- 1934-1944 United States
75 John Basil Jackson --
75 John Smith 10 75 7 5 92 19 -- 1986-1997 England
74 Julian Eavis --
74 Melquiades Josia Da Silva --
73 Otto Wallace --
73 Joe Glick 135 73 30 25 242 -- -- 1921-1943 United States
72 Teddy “Redtop” Davis -- 72
72 Vince Dell’Orto --
72 David McCluskey --
72 Frankie Terranova 30 72 8 7 110 17 -- 1931-1941 United States
71 Harry Butler --
71 Billy Bird 237 71 20 124 330 -- -- 1920-1950 England
71 Larry Esposito --
71 Johnny “Skippy” Allen 68 71 15 12 154 25 -- 1930-1944 United States
71 Jerry McGee --
71 Roy Bedwell --
71 Jose Resto --
71 Frankie Van 14 71 3 9 88 23 -- 1936-1953 United States
70 Csaba Olah
70 Nigel Senior --
70 Keheven Johnson --
70 Filberto Osario --
70 Patsy Sylvestri 13 70 9 7 92 --
69 Augie Pisano --
68 Long Sing Que 3 68 5 0 77 --
68 Nobby Baker 73 68 17 24 161 12 -- 1926-1939 Wales
68 Douglas Parker 87 68 7 52 162 -- -- 1927-1935 Scotland
*67 Vladimir Varhegyi 16 67 3 9 86 15 -- 1996-2005 Slovakia
*67 Imrich Parlagi 2 67 3 1 72 27 -- 1992-2005 Slovakia
67 Bobby English --
67 Bobby Pacho 78 67 15 37 160 -- -- 1929-1941 United States
67 Len “Tiger” Smith 113 67 27 39 207 15 -- 1927-1940 England
67 Kid Socks 98 67 25 20 192 4 -- 1922-1934 England
67 Boyo Rees 63 67 15 18 145 9 -- 1928-1945 Wales
66 Young Papke --
65 Roger Henry --
65 Joe Curran --
65 Tommy Hyams 105 65 22 47 192 19 -- 1930-1943 England
65 Ruby Garcia --
65 Pancho Villa (Canada) --
64 Phineas John 110 64 20 15 195 15 -- 1927-1940 Wales
63 Jimmy Dundee --
63 Jesse Underwood --
63 Marris Virgil --
63 Dave Finn 91 63 17 17 171 6 -- 1930-1946 England
63 Richard Wilson --
62 Antonio Franca --
61 Anton Glofak 2 61 6 0 69 29 -- 1996-2006 Slovakia
61 Johnny Tillman 67 61 20 10 148 3 -- 1912-1930 United States
61 Vernon Garrett --
61 Gene Delmont --
*60 Jason Nesbitt 5 60 0 3 65 10 -- 2000-2006 England
60 Johnny Allen --
60 Angel Chavez 29 60 9 13 98 14 -- 1947-1956 United States
59 Harry Diduck --
58 Juan Italo Meza 39 58 9 19 107 8 -- 1988- Argentina
58 Verdell Smith --
57 Milo Theodorescu 14 57 3 3 74 12 -- 1934-1946 Romania
57 Joey Peralta 46 57 9 --
56 Packy Hommey --
56 “Newport” Johnny Brown --
56 Paolo Villa --
56 John Moore --
55 Lew Feldman 112 55 18 10 185 -- -- 1927-1941 United States
55 Nelson Hernandez 2 55 --
54 Charley Gomer --
54 Tommy Jeans --
54 Bobby Bell --
54 Paul Martin --
53 Paulie Jackson --
53 Joe Curry --
53 Pete Mascia --
53 Johnny Risko 79 53 7 22 143 -- -- 1923-1940 Slovakia
52 Lauro Salas --
52 Gene Spencer --
52 Benny Sharkey 128 52 16 54 196 6 -- 1928-1940 Scotland
52 Paris Apice --
51 Phil Logan --
51 Phil Bloom --
51 Pat Palmer 43 51 6 24 100 17 -- 1935-1948 England
51 Abass Macauley --
51 Anthony Travis --
51 Dusty Brown --
51 Michel Lamora 35 51 5 10 91 6 -- 1955-1967 France
50 “Westside” Jimmy Duffy --
50 Albert Muller --
50 Johnny “Bandit” Romero --
50 Lee Escobido 33 50 3 18 86 19 -- 1991- Philippines
50 Jimmy Allen --
50 Jimmy Vaughn --
50 Jose Luis Martinez 36 50 11 1 97 --

[Ambling Alp]

That is quite an extensive list! There are some interesting names on it.

Johnny Risko beat several good fighters including Max Baer,Tommy Loughran,Mickey Walker,Paulino Uzcudun,Ernie Schaaf, George Godfrey, and Jack Sharkey.

Johnny "Bandit" Romero beat Archie Moore and Lloyd Marshall.

Lauro Salas beat Jimmy Carter for the lightweight title.

Fritzie Zivic won the welterweight tile from Henry Armstrong, and during his career beat Jake LaMotta, Lew Jenkins, Eddie Booker and Sammy Angott.


Yet, Risko,Romero,Salas, and Zivic all managed to lose at least 50 fights!