RBR From England?

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 10 Mar 2007, 17:52

MBaye pts for me too (just the single) so get on ardross.

My T Sharp · Post by **My T Sharp** » 10 Mar 2007, 17:53

Rd 12

Gave that one to Kotelnik 10-9, not much happened.

115-115

Kotelnik had the agression in the fight, but may have not done enough clean work for the judges. May lose a close decision like he did against Witter for the EBU

vargas · Post by **vargas** » 10 Mar 2007, 17:54

115-115 for me. Good clean fight that.

JC · Post by JC » 10 Mar 2007, 17:56

Fook

Fair result in the end I guess.

My T Sharp · Post by **My T Sharp** » 10 Mar 2007, 17:56

Decision from Michael Pass

115-113 M'Baye (Paul Thomas)
117-112 Kotelnik (Mickey Vann)
114-114 Draw (Terry O'Connor)

Draw M'Baye retains

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 10 Mar 2007, 17:59

Seems fair. J-C that parlay should still be alive.

Thanks for updates.

My T Sharp · Post by **My T Sharp** » 10 Mar 2007, 18:00

J-C wrote:Fook

Fair result in the end I guess.

Yep fair result.

It's the second time I have seen Kotelnik and he has fallen short both times. If he would have just given a bit extra I reckon he would have beat M'Baye (and Witter before that).

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 10 Mar 2007, 18:00

hatton gives both of em a paint job.

all the major beltholders at 140 are tosh.

who's the daddy.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 10 Mar 2007, 18:01

only watched bits when i heard the third score 114 i knew the other was going to be 114

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 10 Mar 2007, 18:02

My T Sharp wrote:
J-C wrote:Fook

Fair result in the end I guess.
Yep fair result.

It's the second time I have seen Kotelnik and he has fallen short both times. If he would have just given a bit extra I reckon he would have beat M'Baye (and Witter before that).

kotelnik just don't let go enuff.

if u can't take more risks against a pea shooter like m'baye then u never will.

crap fight.

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 10 Mar 2007, 18:02

REAL_DEAL wrote:only watched bits when i heard the third score 114 i knew the other was going to be 114

yeah.

i thought it was a bang on decision.

mickey vann's was a bit wide weren't it.

SticknMove · Post by **SticknMove** » 10 Mar 2007, 18:04

Yeah, Hatton eats both these guys up IMO.

For the record I had M'Baye by a round, but a lot of the rounds were difficult to score.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 10 Mar 2007, 18:05

was it FVCK fair. Kotelnik controlled the pace all night and should've been at least 3 points clear. He blocked most of M'baye's best shots and was the effective aggressor.

Souleymane was made to look like a clueless slickster. Undeserving bugger - again.

M'baye had to react all the way through and no way was the Frog assertive enough. Vann was right to have it by 5, that was the most realistic score. That was utter shit to give it a draw.

fvck that

vargas · Post by **vargas** » 10 Mar 2007, 18:09

I had money on a Kotelnik win (fortunetely I saved on the draw). I thought the decision was fair and can't see where Vann got the 117-112 from. I don't think you could score that fight more than 2 rounds either way.

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 10 Mar 2007, 18:09

viciousmaussa wrote:was it FVCK fair. Kotelnik controlled the pace all night and should've been at least 3 points clear. He blocked most of M'baye's best shots and was the effective aggressor.

Souleymane was made to look like a clueless slickster. Undeserving bugger - again.

M'baye had to react all the way through and no way was the Frog assertive enough. Vann was right to have it by 5, that was the most realistic score. That was utter shit to give it a draw.

fvck that

rd 10 was kotelnik's.

couldn't understand why they went with m'baye on that rd.

but a lot of the others were real debateable.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 10 Mar 2007, 18:24

I think M'baye had 2 great rounds & at best won 3 more. Rest of the way I had the edge to Kotelnik. This guy deserves a break. Let these bastards fight in Germany where they play on an even playing field (LOL).

All his losses are in close ones away from home which tells a fair bit.

Kotelnik didn't get the nod because he isn't flashy and he doesn't hit hard. But in terms of effective aggression & rig generalship the Rusky was on the G spot. Shame that the judges & commentators CREAMED all over the wrong guy.

Romi · Post by **Romi** » 10 Mar 2007, 18:26

Thx again for the rbr...does anyone have news on Mathews/Simpson?

JC · Post by JC » 10 Mar 2007, 18:28

Romi wrote:Thx again for the rbr...does anyone have news on Mathews/Simpson?

Starts in about half an hour (23.00 UK time)

My T Sharp · Post by **My T Sharp** » 10 Mar 2007, 18:29

Romi wrote:Thx again for the rbr...does anyone have news on Mathews/Simpson?

Starts in about 45 minutes time.

My T Sharp · Post by **My T Sharp** » 10 Mar 2007, 18:30

J-C wrote:
Romi wrote:Thx again for the rbr...does anyone have news on Mathews/Simpson?
Starts in about half an hour (23.00 UK time)

I accounted for the 15 minutes Matthews ring walk and McGuigan build up

vargas · Post by **vargas** » 10 Mar 2007, 18:31

viciousmaussa wrote:I think M'baye had 2 great rounds & at best won 3 more. Rest of the way I had the edge to Kotelnik. This guy deserves a break. Let these bastards fight in Germany where they play on an even playing field (LOL).

All his losses are in close ones away from home which tells a fair bit.

Kotelnik didn't get the nod because he isn't flashy and he doesn't hit hard. But in terms of effective aggression & rig generalship the Rusky was on the G spot. Shame that the judges & commentators CREAMED all over the wrong guy.

Duke McKenzie is awful for doing that. He made out that M'Baye had dominated the first 6, then they put his scorecard up on screen and he only had M'Baye 1 ahead.

JC · Post by JC » 10 Mar 2007, 18:33

Well I've done badly on the betting so far, anyone want to lay any bets on how many times John Rawling will say "Big right 'and" before the end of the evening?

My T Sharp · Post by **My T Sharp** » 10 Mar 2007, 18:39

viciousmaussa wrote:I think M'baye had 2 great rounds & at best won 3 more. Rest of the way I had the edge to Kotelnik. This guy deserves a break. Let these bastards fight in Germany where they play on an even playing field (LOL).

All his losses are in close ones away from home which tells a fair bit.

Kotelnik didn't get the nod because he isn't flashy and he doesn't hit hard. But in terms of effective aggression & rig generalship the Rusky was on the G spot. Shame that the judges & commentators CREAMED all over the wrong guy.

I'm not sure about the aggressiveness that Kotelnik shows. Most of the time it was just standing in the middle of the ring, covered up. I'm not sure of the stats but M'baye probably threw more shots.

For me neither fighter did enough to take the title, but you're right about the commentary...M'baye looked piss poor but they were loving him.

Do you think Amir Khan is going to adopt the M'Baye style, considering that they have the same trainer...I hope not.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 10 Mar 2007, 19:07

Paul Smith struggled a bit, i become less impressed the more i see of him. And WBU International title? WTF.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 10 Mar 2007, 19:10

My T Sharp wrote:
viciousmaussa wrote:I think M'baye had 2 great rounds & at best won 3 more. Rest of the way I had the edge to Kotelnik. This guy deserves a break. Let these bastards fight in Germany where they play on an even playing field (LOL).

All his losses are in close ones away from home which tells a fair bit.

Kotelnik didn't get the nod because he isn't flashy and he doesn't hit hard. But in terms of effective aggression & rig generalship the Rusky was on the G spot. Shame that the judges & commentators CREAMED all over the wrong guy.
I'm not sure about the aggressiveness that Kotelnik shows. Most of the time it was just standing in the middle of the ring, covered up. I'm not sure of the stats but M'baye probably threw more shots.

For me neither fighter did enough to take the title, but you're right about the commentary...M'baye looked piss poor but they were loving him.

Do you think Amir Khan is going to adopt the M'Baye style, considering that they have the same trainer...I hope not.

I think MB looked poor because AK cut off the ring on him, made him work when he didn't want to, and kept on getting to him.