Past Featherweights?

[Rocky Balboa]

I typed the fighters as I thought of them. How would you rank the fighters listed below?



Willie Pep
Sandly Saddler
Henry Armstrong
Jim Driscoll
Salvador Sanchez
Eusebio Pedroza
Alexis Arguello
George Dixon
Terry McGovern
Abe Atell
Johnny Kilbane
Azumah Nelson
Barry McGuigan
Peter Buckley
Marco Antonio Barerra
Eric Morales
Naseem Hamed
Vicente Saldivar
Davey Moore
Johnny Dundee
Danny Lopez
Bobby Chacon
Antonio Esparragoza
Sugar Ramos
Chalkey Wright
Freddie Miller
Baby Arizmendi
Kid Chocolate
Petey Sarron
Ruben Olivares
Eder Jofre
Jeff Fenech
Ernesto Marcel
Jorge Paez

[The Durable Dane]

1.Willie Pep
2.Henry Armstrong
3.Sandly Saddler
4.Salvador Sanchez
5.Vincente Saldivar
6.Eusebio Pedroza
7.Johnny Kilbane
8.Abe Attell
9.Eder Jofre
10.Azumah Nelson
11.Terry McGovern
12.Alexis Arguello
13.George Dixon
14.Sugar Ramos
15.Marco Antonio Barerra
16.Jim Driscoll
17.Barry McGuigan
18.Erik Morales
19.Peter Buckley
20.Johnny Dundee
21.Kid Chocolate
22.Davey Moore
23.Naseem Hamed
24.Danny Lopez
25.Bobby Chacon
26.Jeff Fenech
27.Freddie Miller
28.Chalkey Wright
29.Antonio Esparragoza
30.Baby Arizmendi
31.Jorge Paez
32.Ruben Olivares
33.Petey Sarron
34.Ernesto Marcel

[Mukel]

1.Willie Pep
2.Henry Armstrong
3.Sandly Saddler
4.Salvador Sanchez
5.Vincente Saldivar
6.Eusebio Pedroza
7.Johnny Kilbane
8.Abe Attell
9.Eder Jofre
10.Azumah Nelson
11.Terry McGovern
12.Alexis Arguello
13.George Dixon
14.Sugar Ramos
15.Marco Antonio Barerra
16.Jim Driscoll
17.Barry McGuigan
18.Erik Morales
19.Peter Buckley
20.Johnny Dundee
21.Kid Chocolate
22.Davey Moore
23.Naseem Hamed
24.Danny Lopez
25.Bobby Chacon
26.Jeff Fenech
27.Freddie Miller
28.Chalkey Wright
29.Antonio Esparragoza
30.Baby Arizmendi
31.Jorge Paez
32.Ruben Olivares
33.Petey Sarron
34.Ernesto Marcel

Peter Buckley at number 19? hahaha
are you sure you dont want to rethink that?

[barry]

Featherweight

1. Henry Armstrong
2. Sandy Saddler
3. Willie Pep
4. Terry McGovern
5. Alexis Arguello
6. George Dixon
7. Abe Attell
8. Jim Driscoll
9. Salvador Sanchez
10. Wilfredo Gomez
11. Johnny Kilbane
12. Kid Chocolate
13. Eusebio Pedroza
14. Johnny Dundee
15. Danny Lopez
16. Vicente Saldivar
17. Naseem Hamed
18. Freddie Miller
19. Ruben Olivares
20. Ultiminio "Sugar" Ramos

[cosand]

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:00 pm Post subject:

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1.Willie Pep
2.Henry Armstrong
3.Sandly Saddler
4.Salvador Sanchez
5.Vincente Saldivar
6.Eusebio Pedroza
7.Johnny Kilbane
8.Abe Attell
9.Eder Jofre
10.Azumah Nelson
11.Terry McGovern
12.Alexis Arguello
13.George Dixon
14.Sugar Ramos
15.Marco Antonio Barerra
16.Jim Driscoll
17.Barry McGuigan
18.Erik Morales
19.Peter Buckley
20.Johnny Dundee
21.Kid Chocolate
22.Davey Moore
23.Naseem Hamed
24.Danny Lopez
25.Bobby Chacon
26.Jeff Fenech
27.Freddie Miller
28.Chalkey Wright
29.Antonio Esparragoza
30.Baby Arizmendi
31.Jorge Paez
32.Ruben Olivares
33.Petey Sarron
34.Ernesto Marcel

I dont tend to do these cross era who was better then who rankings, because it becomes a subjective hair splitting cluster fvck. To try to rank fightrs who's careers span half a century in an exact order is IMO, is silly

Just out of curiosity though, based on their history, and the fact that their careers were connected, how is it you have Marcel 22 spots below Arguello, and Olivares above Marcel ?

Needless to say, I ask because of Marcel's win over Arguello, (Remember, the question was about "featherweights")
Overall I would say Arguello did go on to be the better featherwight after Marcel retired, but 22 notches is a wide margin for a guy Arguello lost to.
I have heard the "Arguello was young and green" story. But since he went on to win the title less then a year later, it doesnt hold water.

I ask about Olivares because he only turned Featherweight in late 72. All his success prior to that was as a flyweight and a Bantamweight. As a Featherweight, he had mixed success at best, and only won the title in a fight for the vacancy created by Marcel's retirement against a fighter who never before or after, fought outside Asia, and Olivares went on to a not so impressive 14-8-2 record as a featherweight

As a featherweight only, Olivares at #32 may still be about right, but IMO, you definatly have Marcel way too low