2nd Pan Am Games Qualifier - Buenos Aires, Argentina

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 16 Mar 2007, 10:36

The 2nd qualifying tournament for the Pan Ams started yesterday in Buenos Aires and first out was cuban superstar Guillermo Rigondeaux who fought a scared canadian who went backwards the whole fight. Rigo didn't shine, showing only flashes of what he's capable of. He'll be up again today against Ecuador.

Results thursday 15/3:

54: Guillermo Rigondeaux (CUB)-Isho Shiba (CAN) 8:2

57: Francisco Vargas (MEX)-Miguel Marriaga (COL) 38:25
57: Otoneal Ortiz (ISV)-Omar Ward (BAR) 15:12
57: Roberto Navarro (DOM)-Pierre Ernabe (HAI) 17:1

60: Ibrahim Kamal (CAN)-Jorge De Jesús Pérez (MEX) 14:3

64: José Mosquera (COL)-Juan Zegarra (PER) 8:2

75: Carlos Góngora (ECU)-Deibis Berrocal (COL) RSC-OS 3 (21:1)

Quarters:

81: Shawn Terry Cox (BAR)-Orlando Carvajal (CHI) RSC 2
81: Wualfredo Rivero (VEN)-Patricio Pitto (ARG) 15:3
81: Julio Castillo (ECU)-Glenn Hunter (CAN) 9:5
81: Chris Downs (USA)-Luis Rueda León (GUA) RSC-OS 3

Action continues today with some good fights including the second showing of Rigondeaux and also Emilio Correa, Luis Yanez, Jonathan Batista and others.

lap · Post by **lap** » 16 Mar 2007, 12:06

Thanks for that. Keep us posted.

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 16 Mar 2007, 21:03

Another easy victory for two-time Olympic champ Guillermo Rigondeaux in the second day of competition. Impressive showing of canadian Ibrahim Kamal in a competitive entertaining fight against argentinian Luis Rueda. Best performance was from heavyweight Payares, Venezuela, who after trailing one point after the first, stopped his tough opponent with two perfect left hooks in round two.

Results friday 16/3:

48: Winston Méndez Montero (DOM)-Oscar Negrete (COL) 15:13
48: Luis Yanez (USA)-Jean Michael Kind (CAN) 10:3
48: Patricio Calero (ECU)-Jonathan Martínez (ARG) 25:3
48: Odilon Zaleta Reyes (MEX)-Jhon Nelson Corona (ESA) 23:14

54: Miguel Marrero (PUR)-Vojni Opazo Egana (CHI) 17:11
54: Claudio Marrero (DOM)-Lucio Ríos (ARG) RSC 4
54: Ramiro Rojas (COL)-Aníbal Murrilo (PER) RSC-OS 3
54: Guillermo Rigondeaux (CUB)-Erick Bonne (ECU) 10:0

60: Darley Pérez (COL)-Víctor Hugo Torres (BOL) RSC 3
60: José Virula López GUA)-Valme Widens (HAI) RSC 3
60: Jonathan Batista (DOM)-Carlos Sánchez Estacio (ECU) 11:5
60: Ibrahim kamal (CAN)-Luis Rueda (ARG) 20:11

75: Emilio Correa (CUB)-Oscar Rivera Ventura (ESA) RSC-OS 3 (24:4)
75: Marco Antonio Peribán (MEX)-Francy Ntetu (CAN) 25:11
75 Clarence Joseph (ISV)-Cherry Jean (HAI) RSC 3
75: Carlos Góngora (ECU-Pedro Calla (PER) 13:6

91: José Payares (VEN)-Evan Nedd (ARU) RSC 2

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 17 Mar 2007, 22:52

Third day of competition

Saturday 17/3:

51: Alexander Guarecuco (VEN)-Ryan Ranelli (CAN) RSC 2
51: McWilliam Arroyo (PUR)-William Urina (COL) RSC-OS 2 (31:11)
51: Muhammad Qa’id (USA)-Luis Caicho (PER) RSC 3
51: Juan Carlos Payano (DOM)-Lucas Navarro (ARG) RSC-OS 3 (23:3)

57: Cristian Moreno Alonso (CHI)-Humberto Mamani (BOL) 25:10
57: Carlos Zambrano (PER)-Jesús Cuellar (ARG) 18:11
57: Francisco Vargas (MEX)-Manuel Díaz (ECU) RSC-OS 3 (27:5)
57: Roberto Navarro (DOM)-Otoneal Ortiz (ISV) 22:10

64: Inocente Fiss (CUB)-Kevin Bizier (CAN) 24:11
64: Carlos Hernández (ESA)-Edy Monzón (GUA) 20:5
64: Jonathan González (PUR)-Abraham Álvarez (MEX) 23:14
64: José Mosquera (COL)-Pierre Evens (HAI) RSC-OS 3

69: Anthony Mosquera (MEX)-Eliécer González (PUR) 21:15
69: Rafael Fernández (DOM)-John Jackson (ISV) RSC 2
69: Adam Trupish (CAN)-Ronald Montes (COL) 39:17
69: Jean Carlos Prada (VEN)-Jhonny Ruiz (BOL) 21:5

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 18 Mar 2007, 02:18

Just a note: I've reason to believe that 69 kg Anthony Mosquera boxing for Mexico is actually from the Los Angeles area - born and raised here. I've known him since he started boxing. He must be doing well to be on the Mexico Pan Am team.

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 18 Mar 2007, 22:18

Ok, now I have the scores, here they come:

BIG upset in the middleweight fight between Marco Antonio Periban (MEX) and Emilio Correa (CUB). It was an allout great action fight, by far the best of the tournament so far. The cuban started swinging right from the bell but Periban didn't complain. Correa was classier and landed some heavy combinations but the mexican is a warrior! Despite leading all the way Correa showed signs of tiring and you could sense there would be an upset when Periban continued going forward throwing punches despite taking some good shots. Really Correa didn't get any help at all from the judges and he should've won by some 4-5 points. But the mexican came closer and closer and in the final seconds made it 30:30! And Periban won on a countback score of 111:108!

Yes Mel, I noticed that. The Mexican Anthony Mosquera had California written on his trunks.

Semi-final sunday 18/3:

48: Winston Méndez Montero (DOM)-Luis Yanez (USA) 16:12
48: Patricio Calero (ECU)-Odilon Zaleta Reyes (MEX) WO (The mexican broke his hand)

54: Claudio Marrero (DOM)-Miguel Marrero (PUR) 12:7
54: Guillermo Rigondeaux (CUB)-Ramiro Rojas (COL) 15:7

60: Darley Pérez (COL)-José Virula López GUA) 17:4
60: Jonathan Batista (DOM)-Ibrahim kamal (CAN) 7:4

75: Marco Antonio Peribán (MEX)-Emilio Correa (CUB) +30:30 (111:108)
75 Clarence Joseph (ISV)-Carlos Góngora (ECU) 17:13

81: Shawn Terry Cox (BAR)-Wualfredo Rivero (VEN) 25:12
81: Christopher Downs (USA)-Julio Castillo (ECU) RSC 2

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 18 Mar 2007, 23:11

Amazing how many Southern California boxers born here end up with dual citizenship around major tournament times.

Thanks for posting - the Argentina web site still doesn't have the results. We could flog you for not having the scores, however.

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 19 Mar 2007, 22:42

The second semi-final day produced the best bouts so far. Heavy and super-heavy finished with some knockdowns and stoppage victories. However, the best performance came from the flyweights with McWilliam Arroyo and classy Juan Carlos Payano, who gave powerful american Muhammad Qa'id a boxing lesson.
Also the welterweights gave real good fights with Jean Carlos Prada outboxing Adam Trupish despite being hurt a couple of times.

Results monday 19/3:

51: McWilliam Arroyo (PUR)-Alexander Guarecuco (VEN) RSC-OS 3 (27:5)
51: Juan Carlos Payano (DOM)-Muhammad Qa'id (USA) 30:15

57: Carlos Zambrano (PER)-Cristian Moreno Alonso (CHI) 20:9
57: Francisco Vargas (MEX)-Roberto Navarro (DOM) RET 3

64: Inocente Fiss (CUB)-Carlos Hernández Torres (ESA) 21:7
64: Jonathan González (PUR)-José Mosquera (COL) 22:21

69: Anthony Mosquera (MEX)-Rafael Fernández (DOM) 30:17
69: Jean Carlos Prada (VEN)-Adam Trupish (CAN) 29:23

91: Sebastien Lalumiere (CAN)-Juan Paredes (DOM) 21:8
91: José Payares (VEN)-Emmanuel Anderson (BAR) RSC 2

+91: Didier Bence (CAN)-Cristian Cabrera (DOM) RSC 2

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 20 Mar 2007, 21:03

locoxelbox - you have McWilliam winning his semifinal; the Argentina web site shows the following:

Alexander Guarecuco (Ven) GRSCOS 3 a Mc Williams (PR)

Which is correct?

ricky_old · Post by **ricky_old** » 20 Mar 2007, 21:24

Box Mel:

locoxelbox is correct, Mc William has win his 2 fights by RSCO.

We talk last week or the week before the tournament about you and he said you were a very nice person and send you a big hug.

Regards, Ricky

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 20 Mar 2007, 21:35

Hi Ricky - whew! Glad to hear McWilliam didn't lose. Too bad the official Argentina web site doesn't have it correctly.

You can send him, and McJoe, a very large hug from me.

They are both good kids and I'm glad I got to know them.

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 21 Mar 2007, 12:15

Final results 20/3:

48: Patricio Calero (ECU)-Winston Méndez (DOM) 18:8

51: Juan Carlos Payano (DOM)-McWilliam Arroyo (PUR) +18:18 (67:63)

54: Guillermo Rigondeaux (CUB)-Claudio Marrero (DOM) RET 4

57: Francisco Vargas (MEX)-Carlos Zambrano (PER) WO

60: Darley Pérez (COL)-Jonathan Batista (DOM) 16:12

64: Inocente Fiss (CUB)-Jonathan González (PUR) 18:16

69: Anthony Mosquera (MEX)-Jean Carlos Prada (VEN) RET 2

75: Marco Antonio Peribán (MEX)-Clarence Joseph (ISV) 39:22

81: Christopher Downs (USA)-Shawn Terry Cox (BAR) 12:5

91: José Payares (VEN)-Sebastien Lalumiere (CAN) 20:5

+91: Didier Bence (CAN)-Michael Wilson (USA) 13:10

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 21 Mar 2007, 12:27

Close loss for McWilliam - will he be going to Trinidad? Or has he already qualified for the Pan Ams???? Close for our Mike Wilson, too. I have to say that Rigondeaux is one of my favorites. And happy to see our So. Calif. boxer won in the finals.

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 21 Mar 2007, 12:34

Finals day showed a great battle at flyweight between two world class boxers Juan Carlos Payano, DOM and McWilliam Arroyo, PUR. Despite being knocked down twice, once in the second and again in the fourth, Payano managed to win a hairline countback decision with slick boxing against hard punching Arroyo. Really I don´t think Arroyo got credit for all his punches and the public booed the decision.
The super heavyweight division was a disapointment with canadian Didier Bence dominating passive Mike Wilson, USA. It's incredible the americans can´t produce better fighters at this weight. Wilson is far from world class, he has now lost to Colombia and Canada in the qualifiers.

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 21 Mar 2007, 12:41

boxmel wrote:Close loss for McWilliam - will he be going to Trinidad? Or has he already qualified for the Pan Ams???? Close for our Mike Wilson, too. I have to say that Rigondeaux is one of my favorites. And happy to see our So. Calif. boxer won in the finals.

Mel, McWilliam is qualified already. I talked to him last night, very nice kid. He felt he should´ve won.
Rigondeaux is a class act but didn´t do more than necessary. Reminds me of Mayweather. Inocente Fiss produced some good fights and his final against 17-year old Jonathan Gonzalez was amazing. The Puerto Rican throws some dangerous hooks but of course the cuban was too experienced.
I´m really impressed by Anthony Mosquera, he´s really strong. The venezuelan who is a good boxer couldn´t keep him off him.
The Wilson fight wasn't that close despite the scoring. He was awful to watch, so slow. I had expected a good fight but it was an ugly contest.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 21 Mar 2007, 14:15

Thanks for the info, locoxelbox - I really appreciate it! You already know how I feel about the Arroyo twins and I figured he had already qualified - thanks for confirming. Cubans are good at doing exactly what they have to do to win. I'm really happy for Mosquera. He can't get past our good kids at his weight, so I'm pleased he's doing well for Mexico. Sad to hear about Wilson. Once upon a time, he was an excellent boxer for his size. Unfortunately, he's very inconsistent and the "good Mike" doesn't seem to be showing up lately. That's a shame. Good possibility he's "burned out."

Are you going to be able to get the results from Trinidad, too???

lankester · Post by **lankester** » 21 Mar 2007, 14:48

locoxelbox wrote:Finals day showed a great battle at flyweight between two world class boxers Juan Carlos Payano, DOM and McWilliam Arroyo, PUR. Despite being knocked down twice, once in the second and again in the fourth, Payano managed to win a hairline countback decision with slick boxing against hard punching Arroyo. Really I don´t think Arroyo got credit for all his punches and the public booed the decision.
The super heavyweight division was a disapointment with canadian Didier Bence dominating passive Mike Wilson, USA. It's incredible the americans can´t produce better fighters at this weight. Wilson is far from world class, he has now lost to Colombia and Canada in the qualifiers.

How was didier bence ??? I heard he train often with interbox's fighter like diaconnu and bergeron (both pro), so he sould jump in 1 or 2 years in the pro.

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 21 Mar 2007, 15:20

Bence looked good in the semi, winning by stoppage and I thought the final would be a helluva fight but Wilson was a real disappointment. Then I remembered I had seen him being outclassed by Roberto Cammarelle, ITA. I don't believe he has any future, amateur or pro.
Bence won clearly, he was the one trying but he looked a bit raw and inexperienced.

Mel, has Mosquera fought in the US team? Is he a top name or just a local fighter? He was very impressive here, very strong. In the final he just walked through 2004 olympian JC Prada who had beaten experienced canadian Adam Trupish.

I will not be in T&T, will try to get the results though.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 21 Mar 2007, 15:28

Mel, has Mosquera fought in the US team? Is he a top name or just a local fighter?

Basically a local boxer. He hasn't been able to get past our good kids in his weight class. Plus he was inactive for three or four years.

He was very impressive here, very strong. In the final he just walked through 2004 olympian JC Prada who had beaten experienced canadian Adam Trupish.

That's a good report! Just have to see how he does in Rio. This is the first "international" experience he's had. How did you like all his tattoos?

I will not be in T&T, will try to get the results though.

Unfortunately, they don't have a NGB web site. I wish you luck and will keep my fingers crossed.

Broncano · Post by **Broncano** » 21 Mar 2007, 22:49

Thanks locoxelbox! I actually watched the finals last night live on TyC Sports (Thanks to the blessings of Satellite TV) and your assesment on the all the boxers is right on the money.
I was very dissapointed that I did not get to see my paisano Carlos Zambrano, due to his injury from the previous fight.

Did you get to see him fight? If so how did he look?

ABA Boxing · Post by **ABA Boxing** » 22 Mar 2007, 04:17

Has Michael Wilson (USA) just been over hyped or is Didier Bence (CAN) a class boxer?

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 22 Mar 2007, 08:40

Mike Wilson can be a skilled boxer. However, he's been mostly inconsistent for the past two or three years. I don't think he's been over-or-under hyped as, at one time, there was reason to believe he would live up to expectations. I think he's probably burned out. From the opinion posted on this forum, it sounds to me like neither one of the 201+ were overwhelming.

ABA Boxing · Post by **ABA Boxing** » 22 Mar 2007, 09:00

If you could pick a USA team regardless of qualification, who would you have at each weight for the Worlds & Olympics?

Who out of them will have the best chance of a medal?

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 22 Mar 2007, 09:16

In my opinion, it's too early to put together a team, regardless of qualifications. Our top boxers "turn over" every 4 or 8 years and we start over again. In looking over the boxers who were involved in the Pam Am box-offs, no one stands out as exceptional. Some of the boxers are better skilled than others, but very few have the international experience to make them competitive in the world ring. We are beginning our Olympic team qualifying process in April, ending with the Box-offs in August. I will be working one of the qualifiers (the Western Trials) and the Box-offs. I'll probably have a more solid opinion as time goes by.

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 22 Mar 2007, 11:14

Broncano wrote:I was very dissapointed that I did not get to see my paisano Carlos Zambrano, due to his injury from the previous fight.

Did you get to see him fight? If so how did he look?

Yes, I saw Zambrano in both his bouts and he lloked really good. You can see he has been to training camps in Cuba, he's a slick boxer. In his first bout he was up against argentinas best boxer Jesus Cuellar, South Am Games champ in 2006, outboxing him from long distance. for a moment it looked as he wouldn't be strong enough to hold on to his early lead but with smart movements he kept on winning a close decision. I looked forward to seeing him in the final against mexican warrior Francisco Vargas but Zambrano had an elbow injury and as he already was qualified they decided no to risk anything.

The only american who impressed me was Qa'id Muhammad who is very powerful and incredibly only 17 years old. He couldn't catch dominican Payano but with more international fights he'll be hard to beat.