RRB below stands for the Ring Record Book, 1955-1973. RRB lists several additional fights that do not appear in BoxRec; I do not have newspaper references for these fights so they are not mentioned below.
Dal Hawkins
boxer_id=10974
Dalzell Acklon Hawkins
Featherweight (RRB)
Born in San Francisco, June 9, 1871. (California Death Index, 1940-1997, gives birthplace as California. SF Call, 1900-03-23, lists San Francisco as birthplace.)
RRB: San Francisco, May 1871. Height: 5' 6".
Died in Redwood City, CA, September 15, 1940. (U.P.: The Fresno Bee Republican, Oakland Tribune, The Modesto Bee, 1940-09-16. Also see exclusive article in San Mateo Times, 1940-09-16. California Death Index confirms the date and lists San Mateo as death place.)
Competed from bantamweight to lightweight.
1888-06-04 Charles Rochette (boxer_id=10975) D4; San Francisco, CA
Source: RRB
This fight is also mentioned in the 1940-09-16 San Mateo Times article on Hawkins' death.
1890-12-10 Jerry Haley (boxer_id=196361) KO4; Seattle, WA
Source: RRB
Jerry Haley, Nevada State Journal, 1906-09-08: "The time I was knocked out by Dal Hawkins in Seattle the police thought I was killed and they arrested all of us. I woke up in Portland three days later nearly dead from the experience. This being knocked out is not pleasant. I felt like I was surrounded by a black cloud through which I could not see and later I thought I was asleep in the water."
1891-02-24 Dan Mahoney (boxer_id=193124) KO29, San Jose, CA
The Syracuse Evening Herald, 1891-02-27:
""Dan" Hawkins at San Jose, California, Tuesday night defeated "Dan" Mahoney in a prize fight of twenty nine rounds for the bantam weight championship of the Pacific coast."
The Fresno Daily Morning Republican, 1891-02-25, had a good fight report. Mahoney knocked out by a right hand.
RRB gives the date as Feb 25, KO29.
1891-12-07 Billy Donegan (boxer_id=200839) EXH4
Oakland Tribune, 1891-12-08. This fight obviously should not be added to BoxRec.
No second bout with Sol Smith on May 26th. RRB also lists only one bout.
1893-06-21 Harry Jones KO2, Portland, OR
LAT, 1893-06-22:
"Dal Hawkins of San Francisco defeated Harry Jones of Portland in two rounds tonight."
1896-05-01 J. A. McGinley KO6/6
Source: RRB.
This fight was on the undercard of George Green - Owen Ziegler. (LA Times, 1896-04-27)
1896-11-20 Harry Finnick (boxer_id=346668, boxer_id=166757) TKO2/10
Bout took place on the undercard of McAuliffe - Carroll.
The Fort Wayne Journal, 1896-11-21: "Previous to the star event of the evening Dal Hawkins, of San Francisco, met Harry Finnick, the Arkansas kid, in a ten-round bout at 125 pounds. Hawkins was awarded the decision at the end of the second round, Finnick putting up a very poor fight."
RRB: Harry Ferrick W3
1897-03-17 Martin Flaherty (boxer_id=010688) KO1
BoxRec comment on 4.5 sec finish to be removed.
Newspapers published after the fight noted that the official timekeeper made an error and the knockout came at 1:04 of the first round. (Davenport Daily Leader, San Antonio Daily Light, The Fresno Morning Republican.)
In an interview to the Oakland Tribune, 1908-04-12, Hawkins debunked the 4-second myth and said that the bout took between 30 seconds and 1 minute.
1897-12-16 Eddie Connolly (boxer_id=011011) KO14/20
(BoxRec: KO14/0)
Source: Trenton Evening Times, 1897-12-08.
1898-01-15 Jack Green (boxer_id=218802) EXH6 (?), Seattle, WA
The Deseret News, 1898-01-22: "A six-round boxing exhibition occurred at Seattle, Wash., Friday night between Dal Hawkins of San Francisco and Jack Green of that city. The contest was fast and scientific, but Green was clearly outpointed. Several preliminary events preceded the Hawkins-Green bout.”
Above article also appeared in the Boston Globe, 1898-01-15.
RRB gives date as 1898-01-12, result is D6.
1899-03-03 Frank Erne (boxer_id=010700) LKO7/20
(BoxRec LKO7/0)
Source: The Idaho Daily Statesman, The Fitchburg Sentinel, 1899-03-04.
1900-01-01 Patsy Sweeney (boxer_id=039828) TKO2/20
(BoxRec KO2/0, 1900-01-02)
Source: Boston Globe, SF Call, 1900-01-02
1900-01-25 Martin Flaherty (boxer_id=010688) D20/20
(BoxRec: D25)
SF Call, 1900-01-26: "Dal Hawkins of California and Martin Flaherty of Lowell, Mass., fought a twenty-round draw here to-night."
RRB: D20
1900-05-25 Joe Gans (boxer_id=009026) LKO2/25 1:15
(BoxRec: LKO2/0 ~2:00)
Source: SF Call, 1900-05-26
1900-09-11 Jim Popp (boxer_id=67343) W6, Chicago, IL, Tattersall's
SF Call, 1900-09-12: "Dal Hawkins, the California lightweight, gained an easy victory over Jim Popp of Canada in a six round bout at Tattersalls to-night. Hawkins fought a careful battle throughout and nearly had his man gone in the last two rounds."
RRB also lists this bout.
Another bout missing on this card:
Billy Rotchford (boxer_id=12281) W6/6 Hugh McPadden (boxer_id=165832)
1901-02-28 George McFadden (boxer_id=010991) DQ8/20
(BoxRec: DQ7/20)
SF Call, 1901-03-01: “At the end of the seventh round of his fight with George McFadden before the Twentieth Century Athletic Club he [Dal Hawkins] committed as palpable a foul as ever was perpetrated within sight of a referee. McFadden went to his corner writhing in pain. Then the eighth round came on and with deliberate, intentional and malicious foul fighting Hawkins tried to cover a redolent yellow streak and thus lose his fight. Referee jack Welch, disgusted and maddened, caught hold of Hawkins and threw him to his corner, giving the fight to McFadden.”
1901-07-02 Martin Denny (boxer_id=100662) D20, Grand Forks, BC, Canada
The Salt Lake Herald, 1901-07-04: “The twenty-round glove contest between Dal Hawkins of San Francisco and Martin Denny of Canada resulted in a draw. Neither man was much bruised up after the fight.”
This fight is also listed in RRB.
1902-04-15 Perry Queenan (boxer_id=039832) LKO14
(BoxRec: date unknown)
Source: SF Call, The Decatur Daily Review, 1902-04-16
1902-08-19 Jerry McCarthy (boxer_id=011701) D10
(BoxRec: date unknown, D?/0)
SF Call, 1902-08-20: "Dal Hawkins of California to-night fought Jerry McCarthy of Montana ten rounds to a draw. Hawkins displayed the best ring tactics, but was unable to land effectively upon his opponent."
This article also appeared in the Salt Lake Herald, 1902-08-20. They also said: “On the whole, the affair was rather tame, the men being but little punished. About a thousand people saw the contest.”
1902-09-19 Jack Clifford (boxer_id=116507) LKO7/20, Butte, MT
The Ogden Standard Examiner, 1902-09-19: “Dal Hawkins of San Francisco was knocked out by Jack Clifford by a short-arm right hook to the jaw in the seventh round. The fight apparently was Hawkins’ up to the fifth round, but he lacked the staying of his younger antagonist.”
Also in Winona Republican Herald, 1902-09-19, and New York Sun, 1902-09-22. Also listed in RRB (date given: 1902-09-18 ).
1903-02-03 Danny Duane (boxer_id=57114) L12, Boston, MA, Criterion A.C.
Source: Boston Globe, 1903-02-04.
Missing fights of Dal Hawkins and some of his opponents
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Charles Rochette
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1890-09-12 Sidney Huntington D20; California A.C., San Francisco, CA
Source: Los Angeles Times, 1890-09-13; The Centralia Enterprise and Tribune, 1890-09-20. LAT: “Sidney Huntington and Charley Rochette, local lightweights, were matched to a finish fight for a small purse. The contest was very tame, but after Huntington had drawn blood from Rochette’s nose in the sixteenth, nineteenth and twentieth rounds, the police entered the ring and ordered the fight stopped. The boys started to fight the twenty-first round, and were, together with the seconds, promptly placed under arrest.”
Reno Evening Gazette, The Fresno Daily Morning Republican, 1890-11-18: "The jury in the case of Sidney Huntington, one of the principals arrested during a glove fight at the California Club last September, returned a verdict of not guilty this afternoon. This virtually settles the question of the right of athletic clubs to hold glove exhibitions without police interference." The charge against Charles Rochette was dismissed on November 25th. (Reno Evening Gazette, 1890-11-25.)
1891-09-14 Gus Mueller (boxer_id=200785) TKO22; San Jose A.C., San Jose, CA
Los Angeles Times, 1891-09-15: “The fight tonight between Charley Rochette and Gus Mueller of San Francisco under the auspices of the San Jose Athletic Club was won by Rochette after fighting twenty-two rounds, Mueller’s second throwing up the sponge. Rochette used his left hand throughout and weakened Mueller with frequent jabs toward the end, sending him through the ropes and to the floor several times. The purse was $1250.”
Salt Lake Daily Tribune reported the same result on September 18th.
BoxRec incorrectly lists this fight as KO29 on 1891-04-14.
1898-10-18 Kid O'Brien (boxer_id=146225) D9; California A.C., San Francisco, CA
Fight for the lightweight championship of the Pacific coast.
Source: The Fresno Morning Republican, 1898-10-19. The fight was originally scheduled for 8 rounds, but at the end of 8 rounds Referee Steizner was unable to make a decision and ordered an additional round. "They appeared, however, to lose their heads and the contest degenerated into a slugging match. For fear that serious injury might result to one or the other of them the police interfered and the referee declared the fight to be a draw."
1900-01-11 Doc Flynn (boxer_id=194716) L10; Columbia A.C., San Francisco, CA
Source: SF Call, 1900-01-12.
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1890-09-12 Sidney Huntington D20; California A.C., San Francisco, CA
Source: Los Angeles Times, 1890-09-13; The Centralia Enterprise and Tribune, 1890-09-20. LAT: “Sidney Huntington and Charley Rochette, local lightweights, were matched to a finish fight for a small purse. The contest was very tame, but after Huntington had drawn blood from Rochette’s nose in the sixteenth, nineteenth and twentieth rounds, the police entered the ring and ordered the fight stopped. The boys started to fight the twenty-first round, and were, together with the seconds, promptly placed under arrest.”
Reno Evening Gazette, The Fresno Daily Morning Republican, 1890-11-18: "The jury in the case of Sidney Huntington, one of the principals arrested during a glove fight at the California Club last September, returned a verdict of not guilty this afternoon. This virtually settles the question of the right of athletic clubs to hold glove exhibitions without police interference." The charge against Charles Rochette was dismissed on November 25th. (Reno Evening Gazette, 1890-11-25.)
1891-09-14 Gus Mueller (boxer_id=200785) TKO22; San Jose A.C., San Jose, CA
Los Angeles Times, 1891-09-15: “The fight tonight between Charley Rochette and Gus Mueller of San Francisco under the auspices of the San Jose Athletic Club was won by Rochette after fighting twenty-two rounds, Mueller’s second throwing up the sponge. Rochette used his left hand throughout and weakened Mueller with frequent jabs toward the end, sending him through the ropes and to the floor several times. The purse was $1250.”
Salt Lake Daily Tribune reported the same result on September 18th.
BoxRec incorrectly lists this fight as KO29 on 1891-04-14.
1898-10-18 Kid O'Brien (boxer_id=146225) D9; California A.C., San Francisco, CA
Fight for the lightweight championship of the Pacific coast.
Source: The Fresno Morning Republican, 1898-10-19. The fight was originally scheduled for 8 rounds, but at the end of 8 rounds Referee Steizner was unable to make a decision and ordered an additional round. "They appeared, however, to lose their heads and the contest degenerated into a slugging match. For fear that serious injury might result to one or the other of them the police interfered and the referee declared the fight to be a draw."
1900-01-11 Doc Flynn (boxer_id=194716) L10; Columbia A.C., San Francisco, CA
Source: SF Call, 1900-01-12.
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Fred Bogan
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1890-09-05 Pete Shea W37 Astoria A. A., Astoria, OR
LAT, 1890-09-06:
"Fred Bogan of San Francisco whipped Pete Shea of Vancouver in 37 rounds in the Astoria Athletic Association rooms tonight."
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1890-09-05 Pete Shea W37 Astoria A. A., Astoria, OR
LAT, 1890-09-06:
"Fred Bogan of San Francisco whipped Pete Shea of Vancouver in 37 rounds in the Astoria Athletic Association rooms tonight."
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Harry Finnick
"Arkansas Kid"
boxer_id=346668
boxer_id=166757
1894-03-07 McJarding D10, Dubuque, IA
Sioux Valley News, 1894-03-08: "Harry Finnick and a man named McJarding, two pugilists, fought a ten round draw in Dubuque. A woman who appeared among the spectators in male attire was detected and jailed."
1894-04-23 Charley Washington KO3, Grand Forks, ND
Source: Manitoba Morning Free Press, 1894-04-24
Finnick arrived in Grand Forks from Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada, where he was supposed to box Blanchard of Winnipeg. Chief McRae did not allow the fight to come off. (Source: Manitoba Morning Free Press, 1894-04-09.)
1894-07-25 Tommy Danforth (boxer_id=208455) KO7, Minneapolis, MN, Twin City A.C.
Source: The Fort Wayne Gazette, 1894-07-26; The Decatur Daily Review, 1894-08-12
1894-08-06 Ed Shepard KO6, Lake Superior
According to The Cedar Rapids Evening Gazette, 1894-08-06, the fight took place on a barge in Lake Superior.
1895-04-24 "Clever" Miller (boxer_id=291892) KO4, Memphis, TN, Pastime A.C.
Prelim fight on this card:
Jimmy Park, Memphis D4 Harry Dally (boxer_id=64547)
1896-11-20 Dal Hawkins (boxer_id=10974) LTKO2/10
Bout took place on the undercard of McAuliffe - Carroll.
The Fort Wayne Journal, 1896-11-21: "Previous to the star event of the evening Dal Hawkins, of San Francisco, met Harry Finnick, the Arkansas kid, in a ten-round bout at 125 pounds. Hawkins was awarded the decision at the end of the second round, Finnick putting up a very poor fight."
RRB: Harry Ferrick W3
"Arkansas Kid"
boxer_id=346668
boxer_id=166757
1894-03-07 McJarding D10, Dubuque, IA
Sioux Valley News, 1894-03-08: "Harry Finnick and a man named McJarding, two pugilists, fought a ten round draw in Dubuque. A woman who appeared among the spectators in male attire was detected and jailed."
1894-04-23 Charley Washington KO3, Grand Forks, ND
Source: Manitoba Morning Free Press, 1894-04-24
Finnick arrived in Grand Forks from Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada, where he was supposed to box Blanchard of Winnipeg. Chief McRae did not allow the fight to come off. (Source: Manitoba Morning Free Press, 1894-04-09.)
1894-07-25 Tommy Danforth (boxer_id=208455) KO7, Minneapolis, MN, Twin City A.C.
Source: The Fort Wayne Gazette, 1894-07-26; The Decatur Daily Review, 1894-08-12
1894-08-06 Ed Shepard KO6, Lake Superior
According to The Cedar Rapids Evening Gazette, 1894-08-06, the fight took place on a barge in Lake Superior.
1895-04-24 "Clever" Miller (boxer_id=291892) KO4, Memphis, TN, Pastime A.C.
Prelim fight on this card:
Jimmy Park, Memphis D4 Harry Dally (boxer_id=64547)
1896-11-20 Dal Hawkins (boxer_id=10974) LTKO2/10
Bout took place on the undercard of McAuliffe - Carroll.
The Fort Wayne Journal, 1896-11-21: "Previous to the star event of the evening Dal Hawkins, of San Francisco, met Harry Finnick, the Arkansas kid, in a ten-round bout at 125 pounds. Hawkins was awarded the decision at the end of the second round, Finnick putting up a very poor fight."
RRB: Harry Ferrick W3
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Jerry Haley
boxer_id=196361
1890-12-10 Dal Hawkins (boxer_id=10974) LKO4; Seattle, WA
Source: RRB
Nevada State Journal, 1906-09-08: "The time I was knocked out by Dal Hawkins in Seattle the police thought I was killed and they arrested all of us. I woke up in Portland three days later nearly dead from the experience. This being knocked out is not pleasant. I felt like I was surrounded by a black cloud through which I could not see and later I thought I was asleep in the water."
1894-11-02 Eugene Turner (boxer_id=146215) KO23; Denver, CO, Central Theater
The Perry Daily Chief, 1894-11-04: "The finish fight between Eugene Turner of Boston and Jerry Haley of California last night at the Central theater was very one-sided, Turner being overmatched although he had the best of Haley in reach. In the tenth round Haley could have finished the colored man but he would not force the fighting. In the twenty-third he went for him right and left, and Turner was counted out at 2 a.m."
This story also appeared in the San Antonio Daily Light, 1894-11-03.
1897 Reddy Coogan (boxer_id=056363) D64; Denver, CO
(BoxRec: date and location uncertain)
Nevada State Journal, 1906-09-08: "I fought Reddy Coogan at Denver in 1897 for 64 rounds straight Marquis of Queensbury rules break in the clinches. The first twenty rounds are the hardest of these long fights but after that the work becomes all mechanical and the staying power of the contestants counts in the result."
1897-06-20 Fred Ross (boxer_id=064142); Cheyenne, WY
(BoxRec: date and location uncertain)
Salt Lake Daily Tribune, 1897-06-04: "Cheyenne, Wyo., June 3.--Fred Ross, light-weight champion of Wyoming, and Jerry Haley, light-weight champion of Colorado, signed articles today for a finish fight to take place here on June 20th. Both men have enviable records as hard fighters, and the contest will be witnessed by hundreds of Western sports. The fight will be for a purse of $200 and gate receipts. The men will weigh in at 130."
Additional bout: 1897-09-18 Fred Ross (boxer_id=064142) LKO20 Eugene Turner (boxer_id=146215); Rock Springs, WY
Dubuque Herald, 1897-09-19: "The second glove contest between Fred Ross, champion of Wyoming, and Eugene Turner, champion of Kansas, took place in the opera house here. Ross was knocked out in the twentieth round."
1897-07-30 Tommy Pendergast (boxer_id=157846) LKO2; Sacramento, CA, Theater Comique
Pendergast's pro debut.
The Fresno Weekly Republican, 1897-08-06: "Tommy Pendergast, a novice, and Jerry Haley, who has been fighting for five or six years, met here tonight at the Theater Comique, and Pendergast won in the second round. Haley weighed about 128 pounds, while his opponent was several pounds heavier, taller and longer of reach. This was Pendergast's first ring fight. Though knocked down twice in the first round he forced the fighting in the second and after several hot exchanges he rained blows on haley until the latter went down like a log."
boxer_id=196361
1890-12-10 Dal Hawkins (boxer_id=10974) LKO4; Seattle, WA
Source: RRB
Nevada State Journal, 1906-09-08: "The time I was knocked out by Dal Hawkins in Seattle the police thought I was killed and they arrested all of us. I woke up in Portland three days later nearly dead from the experience. This being knocked out is not pleasant. I felt like I was surrounded by a black cloud through which I could not see and later I thought I was asleep in the water."
1894-11-02 Eugene Turner (boxer_id=146215) KO23; Denver, CO, Central Theater
The Perry Daily Chief, 1894-11-04: "The finish fight between Eugene Turner of Boston and Jerry Haley of California last night at the Central theater was very one-sided, Turner being overmatched although he had the best of Haley in reach. In the tenth round Haley could have finished the colored man but he would not force the fighting. In the twenty-third he went for him right and left, and Turner was counted out at 2 a.m."
This story also appeared in the San Antonio Daily Light, 1894-11-03.
1897 Reddy Coogan (boxer_id=056363) D64; Denver, CO
(BoxRec: date and location uncertain)
Nevada State Journal, 1906-09-08: "I fought Reddy Coogan at Denver in 1897 for 64 rounds straight Marquis of Queensbury rules break in the clinches. The first twenty rounds are the hardest of these long fights but after that the work becomes all mechanical and the staying power of the contestants counts in the result."
1897-06-20 Fred Ross (boxer_id=064142); Cheyenne, WY
(BoxRec: date and location uncertain)
Salt Lake Daily Tribune, 1897-06-04: "Cheyenne, Wyo., June 3.--Fred Ross, light-weight champion of Wyoming, and Jerry Haley, light-weight champion of Colorado, signed articles today for a finish fight to take place here on June 20th. Both men have enviable records as hard fighters, and the contest will be witnessed by hundreds of Western sports. The fight will be for a purse of $200 and gate receipts. The men will weigh in at 130."
Additional bout: 1897-09-18 Fred Ross (boxer_id=064142) LKO20 Eugene Turner (boxer_id=146215); Rock Springs, WY
Dubuque Herald, 1897-09-19: "The second glove contest between Fred Ross, champion of Wyoming, and Eugene Turner, champion of Kansas, took place in the opera house here. Ross was knocked out in the twentieth round."
1897-07-30 Tommy Pendergast (boxer_id=157846) LKO2; Sacramento, CA, Theater Comique
Pendergast's pro debut.
The Fresno Weekly Republican, 1897-08-06: "Tommy Pendergast, a novice, and Jerry Haley, who has been fighting for five or six years, met here tonight at the Theater Comique, and Pendergast won in the second round. Haley weighed about 128 pounds, while his opponent was several pounds heavier, taller and longer of reach. This was Pendergast's first ring fight. Though knocked down twice in the first round he forced the fighting in the second and after several hot exchanges he rained blows on haley until the latter went down like a log."
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Kid O'Brien
Joseph H. O’Brien
San Francisco, CA
Lightweight
boxer_id=146225
boxer_id=200826
The Centralia Chronicle, 1907-10-31, “Wants to Meet Bill Ross,” original spelling preserved:
“Am battling at 135 lbs but will conceed 5 lbs or better to Mr. Ross. Enclosed find record card of my battles up till 1905. But have made 14 battles in various parts of the East since 1905.
Have been in the fighting game off and on for 16 years and owing to leading a good clean life, and not dissipating, am as good if not better than in former years when I fought such men as Young Peter Jackson, Eugene Bezinaw, Charley Neary, Rufe Turner, Patsy Hogan, Jimmy Lawler, Charley Roshette and a host of other men of their equal. And I will make good out on this coast this winter in the light-weight division also.”
boxer_id=200826 -> LAT article on the Rufe Turner bout refers to “J. O’Brien of San Francisco.” The Fresno Republican Weekly, 1899-06-22, in their article on this bout refer to “J. (Kid) O’Brien of San Francisco.”
1897-04-27 Jack Burkhardt D10; Hazard's Pavilion, Los Angeles, CA
LAT, 1897-04-28: O'Brien weighed 128, Burkhardt - 129. Referee: DeWitt Van Court. Prior to this bout James J. Jeffries and Billy Woods boxed a six-round exhibition, ending with an imitation of the last round of the Corbett-Fitzsimmons fight. Jeffries figured as Fitzsimmons and Woods as Corbett.
Note: Jack Burkhardt also fought an ND15 with Young Dempsey (boxer_id=13633) at the Los Angeles Athletic Club on 1896-10-30. Referee: Jim Winston. Source: LAT, 1896-10-31.
1898-09-20 Jimmy Reilly (boxer_id=167169) L10; Woodward's Pavilion, San Francisco, CA
(BoxRec: O'Brien's hometown is Boston, MA)
Los Angeles Times, 1898-09-21: "Jimmy Reilly earned the referee's decision in a ten-round bout with "Kid O'Brien," who claims Los Angeles as his home. The "Kid" furnished lots of amusement for the spectators. At times he acted like a man bereft of his wits, and his wild swings and rushes caused storms of laughter."
On the same card:
Sammy Maxwell (boxer_id=036044) W20 Jimmy Lawler (boxer_id=197569)
BoxRec: "No first name for Maxwell was given." Maxwell's hometown is not currently specified -- should be changed to Los Angeles, CA. LAT: "The contest of the evening was advertised as a Coast championship battle between Lightweights Jimmy Lawler of San Francisco and Sammy maxwell of Los Angeles." Referee: Jack Stelzner. Lawler was the betting favorite at 10 to 7.
Young Peter Jackson (boxer_id=039929) W9 Mike McCormick (boxer_id=146228)
BoxRec: KO8. LAT: " "Young Peter Jackson" was given the decision over Mike McCormick in the ninth round. The police stopped the fight because McCormick rushed at jackson while the referee was tying his glove, which had become unfastened. He had the better of the mill."
1898-10-18 Charles Rochette (boxer_id=010975) D9; California A.C., San Francisco, CA
Fight for the lightweight championship of the Pacific coast. Referee: Jack Stelzner.
Source: The Fresno Morning Republican, 1898-10-19. The fight was originally scheduled for 8 rounds, but at the end of 8 rounds Referee Stelzner was unable to make a decision and ordered an additional round. "They appeared, however, to lose their heads and the contest degenerated into a slugging match. For fear that serious injury might result to one or the other of them the police interfered and the referee declared the fight to be a draw."
1898-12-15 Morris Jacobs (boxer_id=195992) W6; Acme A.C., Oakland, CA
Oakland Tribune, 1898-12-16: “Morris Jacobs and Kid O’Brien put up a clever six round go. O’Brien was given the decision, although there were many who thought that Jacobs should have been declared the victor.”
Joseph H. O’Brien
San Francisco, CA
Lightweight
boxer_id=146225
boxer_id=200826
The Centralia Chronicle, 1907-10-31, “Wants to Meet Bill Ross,” original spelling preserved:
“Am battling at 135 lbs but will conceed 5 lbs or better to Mr. Ross. Enclosed find record card of my battles up till 1905. But have made 14 battles in various parts of the East since 1905.
Have been in the fighting game off and on for 16 years and owing to leading a good clean life, and not dissipating, am as good if not better than in former years when I fought such men as Young Peter Jackson, Eugene Bezinaw, Charley Neary, Rufe Turner, Patsy Hogan, Jimmy Lawler, Charley Roshette and a host of other men of their equal. And I will make good out on this coast this winter in the light-weight division also.”
boxer_id=200826 -> LAT article on the Rufe Turner bout refers to “J. O’Brien of San Francisco.” The Fresno Republican Weekly, 1899-06-22, in their article on this bout refer to “J. (Kid) O’Brien of San Francisco.”
1897-04-27 Jack Burkhardt D10; Hazard's Pavilion, Los Angeles, CA
LAT, 1897-04-28: O'Brien weighed 128, Burkhardt - 129. Referee: DeWitt Van Court. Prior to this bout James J. Jeffries and Billy Woods boxed a six-round exhibition, ending with an imitation of the last round of the Corbett-Fitzsimmons fight. Jeffries figured as Fitzsimmons and Woods as Corbett.
Note: Jack Burkhardt also fought an ND15 with Young Dempsey (boxer_id=13633) at the Los Angeles Athletic Club on 1896-10-30. Referee: Jim Winston. Source: LAT, 1896-10-31.
1898-09-20 Jimmy Reilly (boxer_id=167169) L10; Woodward's Pavilion, San Francisco, CA
(BoxRec: O'Brien's hometown is Boston, MA)
Los Angeles Times, 1898-09-21: "Jimmy Reilly earned the referee's decision in a ten-round bout with "Kid O'Brien," who claims Los Angeles as his home. The "Kid" furnished lots of amusement for the spectators. At times he acted like a man bereft of his wits, and his wild swings and rushes caused storms of laughter."
On the same card:
Sammy Maxwell (boxer_id=036044) W20 Jimmy Lawler (boxer_id=197569)
BoxRec: "No first name for Maxwell was given." Maxwell's hometown is not currently specified -- should be changed to Los Angeles, CA. LAT: "The contest of the evening was advertised as a Coast championship battle between Lightweights Jimmy Lawler of San Francisco and Sammy maxwell of Los Angeles." Referee: Jack Stelzner. Lawler was the betting favorite at 10 to 7.
Young Peter Jackson (boxer_id=039929) W9 Mike McCormick (boxer_id=146228)
BoxRec: KO8. LAT: " "Young Peter Jackson" was given the decision over Mike McCormick in the ninth round. The police stopped the fight because McCormick rushed at jackson while the referee was tying his glove, which had become unfastened. He had the better of the mill."
1898-10-18 Charles Rochette (boxer_id=010975) D9; California A.C., San Francisco, CA
Fight for the lightweight championship of the Pacific coast. Referee: Jack Stelzner.
Source: The Fresno Morning Republican, 1898-10-19. The fight was originally scheduled for 8 rounds, but at the end of 8 rounds Referee Stelzner was unable to make a decision and ordered an additional round. "They appeared, however, to lose their heads and the contest degenerated into a slugging match. For fear that serious injury might result to one or the other of them the police interfered and the referee declared the fight to be a draw."
1898-12-15 Morris Jacobs (boxer_id=195992) W6; Acme A.C., Oakland, CA
Oakland Tribune, 1898-12-16: “Morris Jacobs and Kid O’Brien put up a clever six round go. O’Brien was given the decision, although there were many who thought that Jacobs should have been declared the victor.”
Re: Dal Hawkins
El Intocable- It appears that you did a good job of researching
the career of Dal Hawkins. By the way, I found one Dalzell
Hawkins in the 1880 U.S. Census on the FamilySearch website.
As I recall, there was coverage in the San Francisco Chronicle
about Fred Bogan committing suicide during the early 1920s.
- Chuck Johnston
the career of Dal Hawkins. By the way, I found one Dalzell
Hawkins in the 1880 U.S. Census on the FamilySearch website.
As I recall, there was coverage in the San Francisco Chronicle
about Fred Bogan committing suicide during the early 1920s.
- Chuck Johnston
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Thank you very much for making the changes so quickly! I will also add wiki comments to the fights and his biography. In the early part of the 20th century he was widely considered as the deadliest left hooker in the business, and even in the October 1960 issue of Ring Magazine they mentioned him as one of the 12 top left-hook artists of all time. (For chronological reasons, he is right at the top of their list in front of Bob Fitzsimmons.)
I’ve noticed a few typos that were made when entering these fights into BoxRec:
1) Hawkins fought Jim Popp of Toronto on 1900-09-11, not Eddie Connolly. In addition to the sources I mentioned above, there were two good reports on this fight in the Toronto Daily Star and the Chicago Journal. Malachy Hogan was the referee.
2) The fight with Danny Duane took place on 1903-02-03.
3) Fred Bogan fought Pete Shea, not Pete Shaw, on 1890-09-05.
As noted above, boxer_id=346668 and boxer_id=166757 should be combined, but you did not get to those fights yet.
I’ve noticed a few typos that were made when entering these fights into BoxRec:
1) Hawkins fought Jim Popp of Toronto on 1900-09-11, not Eddie Connolly. In addition to the sources I mentioned above, there were two good reports on this fight in the Toronto Daily Star and the Chicago Journal. Malachy Hogan was the referee.
2) The fight with Danny Duane took place on 1903-02-03.
3) Fred Bogan fought Pete Shea, not Pete Shaw, on 1890-09-05.
As noted above, boxer_id=346668 and boxer_id=166757 should be combined, but you did not get to those fights yet.
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Since this thread is dying a quiet death and no changes/additions have been made since last Friday, it is obvious that BoxRec editors do not really care about the more obscure fighters. However, it would be great if at least the typos mentioned above could be fixed.
The most amazing of these typos is the misspelling of Pete Shea’s name. He also fought the great Jim Barry on the undercard of the Solly Smith – Johnny Griffin bout (1893-07-10), when Smith was so groggy he was almost knocked down by a gust of wind, but then all of a sudden Sol fired a right hand and knocked Griffin out cold. BoxRec does list the Shea-Barry bout, indicates LAT as the source of info, but Shea’s first name was entered as Jimmy!! The "Jimmy" typo also appears in the Ring Record Book. Perhaps Pete Shea is somehow cursed – apparently it is impossible to input his name without typos.
Here are the LAT scans:
Another scan, Lima Times-Democrat:
Here Bogan lists his former opponents and mentions Pete Shea, LAT, 1896-04-27:
The other typo is the wrong date of the Dal Hawkins – Danny Duane bout. It was entered as 1903-02-13 but the bout, as indicated above, took place on February 3rd. The following article appeared in the Boston Globe on the 4th:
Finally, for some reason Jim Popp was confused with Eddie Connolly (bout dated 1900-09-11). Here are several scans, in case there are any doubts. The Toronto Daily Star, 1900-09-13:
Another article from the same newspaper:
San Francisco Call, 1900-09-12:
This bout can be also found in various editions of the Ring Record Book.
The most amazing of these typos is the misspelling of Pete Shea’s name. He also fought the great Jim Barry on the undercard of the Solly Smith – Johnny Griffin bout (1893-07-10), when Smith was so groggy he was almost knocked down by a gust of wind, but then all of a sudden Sol fired a right hand and knocked Griffin out cold. BoxRec does list the Shea-Barry bout, indicates LAT as the source of info, but Shea’s first name was entered as Jimmy!! The "Jimmy" typo also appears in the Ring Record Book. Perhaps Pete Shea is somehow cursed – apparently it is impossible to input his name without typos.
Here are the LAT scans:
Another scan, Lima Times-Democrat:
Here Bogan lists his former opponents and mentions Pete Shea, LAT, 1896-04-27:
The other typo is the wrong date of the Dal Hawkins – Danny Duane bout. It was entered as 1903-02-13 but the bout, as indicated above, took place on February 3rd. The following article appeared in the Boston Globe on the 4th:
Finally, for some reason Jim Popp was confused with Eddie Connolly (bout dated 1900-09-11). Here are several scans, in case there are any doubts. The Toronto Daily Star, 1900-09-13:
Another article from the same newspaper:
San Francisco Call, 1900-09-12:
This bout can be also found in various editions of the Ring Record Book.
Re: More on Dal Hawkins
El Intocable- Thanks for the great items on Dal Hawkins and
Fred Bogan. By the way, I recall reading that Bogan lived
in Everett, Washington at one time and a local newspaper
had some articles about his career. The said articles may
not have been models of accuracy, but they are of interest.
- Chuck Johnston
Fred Bogan. By the way, I recall reading that Bogan lived
in Everett, Washington at one time and a local newspaper
had some articles about his career. The said articles may
not have been models of accuracy, but they are of interest.
- Chuck Johnston