WB-Who?

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 02 Apr 2007, 09:11

WBU and WBF belts et al have devalued and diluted the British belts. Just more and more titles endlessly, no wonder people turn their noses up at the game. The blame rests on British fighters, managers, promoters and the BBBoC for allowing these bollocks titles to be competed for within our shores.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 02 Apr 2007, 09:32

Terence i know your post was not meant to be an anti-WBU rant and i respect that. So allow mine to be an anti-WBU rant. The WBU like countless other Boxing "organisations" are a pile of shit. They devalue genuine titles like the British for example and give some fighters a false sense that they are a world champion when really they are competing with blood, sweat and tears for a title made up by some sweaty fella sitting in a shed in Cambridge.

The fact tv stations like ITV keep mentioning them, calling them world titles and bringing them up only gives more credence and credibility to these organisations who are -to be blunt- wrecking the game. And for the record the "main governing bodies" as they are called are only fractionally better.

That's what i think of the WBU. £750,000?? That is the biggest joke i have heard this year!

THEBUTCH · Post by **THEBUTCH** » 02 Apr 2007, 10:32

The WBU are a farce and unlike the WBO haven't even showed signs of improvement.

I wish the BBB0fC could outlaw them completely from the British Isles. I think Japan only allow WBA and WBC titles in their council.

Sportsnetwork would have a fit if this ever happened seeing as Warren's outfit look to dodge as many competitive contests as possible.

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 02 Apr 2007, 10:40

Terence wrote: Although the BBBoC cannot stop someone else operating fights here can they? Restriction of trade and all that?

They used to forbid WBO title fights in this country when they first came about. Think they changed their mind when they realised how much money they can make out of Watson/Eubank/Benn.

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 02 Apr 2007, 10:49

steve689 wrote:They devalue genuine titles like the British for example and give some fighters a false sense that they are a world champion when really they are competing with blood, sweat and tears for a title made up by some sweaty fella sitting in a shed in Cambridge.

cracked me up.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 02 Apr 2007, 16:53

Thw WBU are the biggest joke out. They are just a tool of Sports Network, its a shame that Warren keeps using these joke titles, as it has robbed the fans seeing great domestic match-ups for the lonsdale belt.

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 03 Apr 2007, 04:26

Terrence - where and when was the WBU up for sale? I remember Boxing Monthly (I think) reporting that it might be, but didn't hear anything else. There isn't a link or something is there? Cheers

Ally-M1 · Post by **Ally-M1** » 03 Apr 2007, 05:36

Outside the WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO - i'd wish the rest of the 'sanctioning bodies' would be gotten rid of...

I know the 'main' four are not perfect but it be a start if they were the only four!

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 03 Apr 2007, 07:52

Terence wrote:
jomothepure wrote:Terrence - where and when was the WBU up for sale? I remember Boxing Monthly (I think) reporting that it might be, but didn't hear anything else. There isn't a link or something is there? Cheers
http://www.businessesforsale.com/telegr ... -Sale.aspx

I go on the basis of never trust the 'net but it is a bit dodgy.

We should give them a ring, ask how the sale is going and see if we can knock the price down a bit. The number is on the site.

What would you do if you bought the WBU?

Don't just say "disable it", or whatever, because that would be a waste £750,000. Constructive answers, please.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 03 Apr 2007, 08:30

oliverfennell wrote: What would you do if you bought the WBU?

Don't just say "disable it", or whatever, because that would be a waste £750,000. Constructive answers, please.

Pawn the jewels out of the belts for reasons of boredom.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 03 Apr 2007, 08:47

http://www.wbu.cc/world_champions.asp?d ... eavyweight

Well, this says it all really!

Why the hell would anyone want to buy a governing body which doesn't even have any champions aside from 'world champion' Takaloo and Derry Matthews!

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 03 Apr 2007, 09:37

Max Molyneux wrote:
oliverfennell wrote: What would you do if you bought the WBU?

Don't just say "disable it", or whatever, because that would be a waste £750,000. Constructive answers, please.
Pawn the jewels out of the belts for reasons of boredom.

You watched Raging Bull last night too?

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 03 Apr 2007, 09:38

lvlarc wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:
oliverfennell wrote: What would you do if you bought the WBU?

Don't just say "disable it", or whatever, because that would be a waste £750,000. Constructive answers, please.
Pawn the jewels out of the belts for reasons of boredom.
You watched Raging Bull last night too?

Nah I got It on Dvd.

Don't remember that part though.

My T Sharp · Post by **My T Sharp** » 03 Apr 2007, 16:37

Terence wrote:
jomothepure wrote:Terrence - where and when was the WBU up for sale? I remember Boxing Monthly (I think) reporting that it might be, but didn't hear anything else. There isn't a link or something is there? Cheers
http://www.businessesforsale.com/telegr ... -Sale.aspx

I go on the basis of never trust the 'net but it is a bit dodgy.

We should give them a ring, ask how the sale is going and see if we can knock the price down a bit. The number is on the site.

Price now reduced to £300k, potential income of £1m+, 1 employee, CAN BE RUN FROM HOME

http://uk.businessesforsale.com/uk/Worl ... -Sale.aspx

Axe · Post by **Axe** » 04 Apr 2007, 02:31

I remember James Toney dissing the WBO title of Eubank and then proceeding to pick up the WBU 175 lb belt and defending it 7 or 8 times, until he lost it to Griffin in their rematch.

Griffin quickly vacated it thereafter.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 04 Apr 2007, 04:24

Why doesn't Warren buy the WBU?

He basically owns them.

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 04 Apr 2007, 04:56

Ally-M1 wrote:Outside the WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO - i'd wish the rest of the 'sanctioning bodies' would be gotten rid of...

I know the 'main' four are not perfect but it be a start if they were the only four!

When the hell did the main 3 become 'main 4'?

It seems only in europe where its the 'main 4', as so many crappy fighters cannot compete for anything better/maintain long dodgy reigns other than with the WBO belts.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 04 Apr 2007, 04:59

How did the IBF become big too?

It was just the WBC and WBA until the 80's.

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 04 Apr 2007, 05:29

Max Molyneux wrote:How did the IBF become big too?

It was just the WBC and WBA until the 80's.

Some guy (forget his name) formed them because the WBA wouldn't make him president. Larry Holmes I'm pretty sure made them a household name

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 04 Apr 2007, 06:23

Max Molyneux wrote:How did the IBF become big too?

It was just the WBC and WBA until the 80's.

Still is in Japan.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 04 Apr 2007, 06:44

Howcome Japan don't recognise the IBF?

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 04 Apr 2007, 06:50

jomothepure wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:How did the IBF become big too?

It was just the WBC and WBA until the 80's.
Some guy (forget his name) formed them because the WBA wouldn't make him president. Larry Holmes I'm pretty sure made them a household name

Wasn't it Robert Lee? Later indicted by the FBI and sent to jail?

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m ... i_71704825

Ally-M1 · Post by **Ally-M1** » 04 Apr 2007, 06:54

overhand_right wrote:
Ally-M1 wrote:Outside the WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO - i'd wish the rest of the 'sanctioning bodies' would be gotten rid of...

I know the 'main' four are not perfect but it be a start if they were the only four!
When the hell did the main 3 become 'main 4'?

It seems only in europe where its the 'main 4', as so many crappy fighters cannot compete for anything better/maintain long dodgy reigns other than with the WBO belts.

The answer is in your reply...

Perhaps a European started calling it the Main '4' and it seems to have stuck on a wider level, regardless if some don't agree...

I'd like to see less governing bodies myself but som good champions hold the WBO belt such as Taylor, Calzaghe, Calderon and Guzman.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 04 Apr 2007, 08:18

WBO gained allot more respect with the likes of Hamed, Barrera, Delahoya, Both Klitchkos, Darius Michawski, Calazage, Eubank, Freitas all been world class belt holders. Hopkins and Delahoya unifying with the WBO was a landmark for the belt too.

With the WBC looking very corrupt with its strippings the, WBA having about 10 champions per division and the IBF been around for less time than WBO, the WBOs has risen somewhat in prestige.

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 04 Apr 2007, 08:51

Max Molyneux wrote:Howcome Japan don't recognise the IBF?

They actually apply quality standards there.

As far as I know, the only belts you can win in Japan are WBC, WBA, OPBF and Japanese.

WB-Who?

WBU - Is it for you?