British Top 30 P4P April 2007

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 01 Apr 2007, 18:03

1. (1.) Ricky Hatton
2. (2.) Joe Calzaghe
3. (3.) Clinton Woods
4. (4.) Junior Witter
5. (5.) Scott Harrison
6. (6.) Alex Arthur
7. (7.) Enzo Maccarinelli
8. (8.) David Haye
9. (13.) Carl Froch
10. (9.) Howard Eastman

11. (10.) Nicky Cook
12. (11.) Damaen Kelly
13. (12.) Wayne McCullough
14. (15.) Ted Bami
15. (14.) Michael Hunter
16. (16.) Matt Skelton
17. (17.) Jamie Moore
18. (21.) Esham Pickering
19. (18.) Brian Magee
20. (20.) Robin Reid

21. (19.) Carl Johanneson
22. (22.) Graham Earl
23. (23.) Scott Dann
24. (24.) Kevin Anderson
25. (25.) Michael Sprott
26. (27.) Danny Williams
27. (30.) Jonathan Thaxton
28. (26.) Ricky Burns
29. (28.) Barry Morrison
30. (29.) Wayne Alexander

Any comments, criticisms or P4P lists are very welcome.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 01 Apr 2007, 19:10

Solid List but my thoughts would be:

Enzo Mac above Haye? I'd have Kevin Anderson allot higher. I think Froch and Haye are better than Arthur who I don't rate. I'd have Johanneson/Earl above Kelly

Robind Reid should be dropped lower after inactivity and Maggee should be lower too I think. As for McCullough he hasn't fought for 2 years, hasn't he retired and is he British?

ITS VERY HARD to assess even our british fighters when they all go down such different routes

Ally-M1 · Post by **Ally-M1** » 02 Apr 2007, 05:56

I'm suprised Scott Harrison is still in there, we have no idea if he'll ever make it in to the ring again...

I'd love to see him return but at this point, it won't be anytime soon.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 02 Apr 2007, 06:11

Kelly's retired too!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/6187222.stm

Scott Dann has retired tooand hasn't fought for ages.

http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/display ... eId=133182

Who makes the list exactly?

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 02 Apr 2007, 11:52

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Solid List but my thoughts would be:

Enzo Mac above Haye? I'd have Kevin Anderson allot higher. I think Froch and Haye are better than Arthur who I don't rate.

Haye will most likely overtake Enzo Mac, if he beats Bonin later this Month. Anderson would have been a fair bit higher, if he hadn't lost the Commonwealth title to Nuumbembe in February. I think Arthur is a good fighter, who has currently proven more than Froch and Haye, but I respect your opinion.

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:I'd have Johanneson/Earl above Kelly

I do not believe that Johanneson has proved enough at this time to be that high in the rankings, a few more defences of the Brtish title or winning the European or Commonwealth titles then it will be a different matter. I wouldn't argue with someone putting Earl that high in their rankings, but I will have to wait for him to string some wins together before I can do the same in my list.

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Robind Reid should be dropped lower after inactivity and Maggee should be lower too I think. As for McCullough he hasn't fought for 2 years, hasn't he retired and is he British?

Yes, Reid probably should be lower, but he is fighting again now so it doesn't matter as much. Magee is perhaps a little high coming off the Froch loss, but I still think he is a good operator, and will hopefully have some meaningful fights later this year. McCullough hasn't retired and has recently been linked to a World title fight against Molitor, he is a U.S citizen but I believe he used to be British, so that is good enough for me.

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:ITS VERY HARD to assess even our british fighters when they all go down such different routes

That is what makes it so fun! Why don't you have a go?

ABA Boxing · Post by **ABA Boxing** » 02 Apr 2007, 15:33

Kennet Egan (IRL)
Neil Perkins (ENG)
Stephen Smith (ENG)
Darren Sutherland (IRL)
David Price (ENG)

Fundo Mhura (SCO)
John Joe Joyce (IRL)
Darren O'Neil (IRL)
Darren Langley (ENG)
Joseph Murray (ENG)

David Oliver Joyce (IRL)
Mo Nasir (WAL)
Stephen Simmons (SCO)
Conor Ahern (IRL)
Eric Donovan (IRL)

Frankie Gavin (ENG)
Jamie Alger Crees (WAL)
Kris Carslaw (SCO)
Roy Sheehan (IRL)
James Degale (ENG)

sweetscience · Post by **sweetscience** » 02 Apr 2007, 17:13

ABA Boxing wrote:Kennet Egan (IRL)
Neil Perkins (ENG)
Stephen Smith (ENG)
Darren Sutherland (IRL)
David Price (ENG)

Fundo Mhura (SCO)
John Joe Joyce (IRL)
Darren O'Neil (IRL)
Darren Langley (ENG)
Joseph Murray (ENG)

David Oliver Joyce (IRL)
Mo Nasir (WAL)
Stephen Simmons (SCO)
Conor Ahern (IRL)
Eric Donovan (IRL)

Frankie Gavin (ENG)
Jamie Alger Crees (WAL)
Kris Carslaw (SCO)
Roy Sheehan (IRL)
James Degale (ENG)

what about this group of Am's

surely that isnt a p4p list

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 02 Apr 2007, 17:23

Ally-M1 wrote:I'm suprised Scott Harrison is still in there, we have no idea if he'll ever make it in to the ring again...

I'd love to see him return but at this point, it won't be anytime soon.

Does anyone know how his legal problems are going?

I might well have to take him out soon as he has been inactive for 16 Months, and doesn't look likely to be back in the ring anytime soon, like you said.

ABA Boxing · Post by **ABA Boxing** » 03 Apr 2007, 05:37

sweetscience wrote:
ABA Boxing wrote:Kennet Egan (IRL)
Neil Perkins (ENG)
Stephen Smith (ENG)
Darren Sutherland (IRL)
David Price (ENG)

Fundo Mhura (SCO)
John Joe Joyce (IRL)
Darren O'Neil (IRL)
Darren Langley (ENG)
Joseph Murray (ENG)

David Oliver Joyce (IRL)
Mo Nasir (WAL)
Stephen Simmons (SCO)
Conor Ahern (IRL)
Eric Donovan (IRL)

Frankie Gavin (ENG)
Jamie Alger Crees (WAL)
Kris Carslaw (SCO)
Roy Sheehan (IRL)
James Degale (ENG)
what about this group of Am's

surely that isnt a p4p list

Not sure what you meen?

sweetscience · Post by **sweetscience** » 03 Apr 2007, 08:52

ABA Boxing wrote:
sweetscience wrote:
ABA Boxing wrote:Kennet Egan (IRL)
Neil Perkins (ENG)
Stephen Smith (ENG)
Darren Sutherland (IRL)
David Price (ENG)

Fundo Mhura (SCO)
John Joe Joyce (IRL)
Darren O'Neil (IRL)
Darren Langley (ENG)
Joseph Murray (ENG)

David Oliver Joyce (IRL)
Mo Nasir (WAL)
Stephen Simmons (SCO)
Conor Ahern (IRL)
Eric Donovan (IRL)

Frankie Gavin (ENG)
Jamie Alger Crees (WAL)
Kris Carslaw (SCO)
Roy Sheehan (IRL)
James Degale (ENG)
what about this group of Am's

surely that isnt a p4p list
Not sure what you meen?

is the list of boxers in an order

ie is Kennet Egan the best Am Boxer in GB.... and so on

ABA Boxing · Post by **ABA Boxing** » 03 Apr 2007, 12:53

Yes in order. Its GB but i included Ireland in the list as well:TU:

What would your list be, im always interested to see peoples lists.

sweetscience · Post by **sweetscience** » 03 Apr 2007, 14:46

frankie gavin way higher, i think he is mooted as the p4p number 1 in Am's in GB by pritty much everyone

dont no what what kennet has done/beat or even his weight so cant comment

ste smith is up there rightly so, as is perkins

i think muhara should be lower, he seems to have only had 1 decent tourny

bellew or danny price should defo be within the list

ps obviously im english

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 04 Apr 2007, 11:46

Max Molyneux wrote:Kelly's retired too!

I decided to keep Kelly in the rankings for a while, seeing as he had been quite active in 2006, if no announcement of a return happens in the next few Months, I will take him out.

Max Molyneux wrote:Scott Dann has retired tooand hasn't fought for ages.

Scott Dann retired a few days ago, and I need a replacement for my P4P list, Scott Dann will almost certainly be removed next Month.

Max Molyneux wrote:Who makes the list exactly?

I do.

Ally-M1 · Post by **Ally-M1** » 04 Apr 2007, 12:23

Horse wrote:
Ally-M1 wrote:I'm suprised Scott Harrison is still in there, we have no idea if he'll ever make it in to the ring again...

I'd love to see him return but at this point, it won't be anytime soon.
Does anyone know how his legal problems are going?

I might well have to take him out soon as he has been inactive for 16 Months, and doesn't look likely to be back in the ring anytime soon, like you said.

Harrison sadly has four trials to face this year... They include three here in Scotland and one in Spain on various charges such as breach of the peach, threatning behaviour, possesion of drugs, assault.

I think with these impending court dates, Scott may not be in the ring again, if he decides to return of course, for some time.

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Horse · Post by **Horse** » 04 Apr 2007, 16:51

Ally-M1 wrote:
Horse wrote:
Ally-M1 wrote:I'm suprised Scott Harrison is still in there, we have no idea if he'll ever make it in to the ring again...

I'd love to see him return but at this point, it won't be anytime soon.
Does anyone know how his legal problems are going?

I might well have to take him out soon as he has been inactive for 16 Months, and doesn't look likely to be back in the ring anytime soon, like you said.
Harrison sadly has four trials to face this year... They include three here in Scotland and one in Spain on various charges such as breach of the peach, threatning behaviour, possesion of drugs, assault.

I think with these impending court dates, Scott may not be in the ring again, if he decides to return of course, for some time.

Is there any legal reason why he cannot fight between those court dates, as unlikely as that would be?

sweetscience · Post by **sweetscience** » 04 Apr 2007, 17:12

Horse wrote:
Ally-M1 wrote:
Horse wrote: Does anyone know how his legal problems are going?

I might well have to take him out soon as he has been inactive for 16 Months, and doesn't look likely to be back in the ring anytime soon, like you said.
Harrison sadly has four trials to face this year... They include three here in Scotland and one in Spain on various charges such as breach of the peach, threatning behaviour, possesion of drugs, assault.

I think with these impending court dates, Scott may not be in the ring again, if he decides to return of course, for some time.
Is there any legal reason why he cannot fight between those court dates, as unlikely as that would be?

surely the board must have took his licence

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 04 Apr 2007, 17:43

Regarding the Amateurs - I also think Gavin on the low side. He certainly seems to be a class act.

Perkins done incredibly well a few years back in the World championship, but then underachieved in the Commonwealths... so I think he is a little lofty.

Incidently, ABA and Sweet Science.... I would keep an eye on Enzo Maccrinelli's nephew - just won the WABA's at Light Heavy... Young, but was impressive and seems to have a great attitude. Think he could go places.

sweetscience · Post by **sweetscience** » 04 Apr 2007, 18:06

never seen him mate but i will reserve judgement until he has boxed anyone ive heard of cause wales has so few am boxers its relativley 'easy' to win a title

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 04 Apr 2007, 18:11

sweetscience wrote:never seen him mate but i will reserve judgement until he has boxed anyone ive heard of cause wales has so few am boxers its relativley 'easy' to win a title

Tell me about it, Wayne O Sullivan regained his Middleweight title pretty comfortably this year - he hasn't fought for nearly 2 years... made his return in January - no tune ups, straight into the WABA's. Thats at Middleweight.

One of the Heavyweights admitted to not having a lot of experience... I think he was a late starter who'd only box sporadically for 3 years. He did lose the final, but it was expected to be close.

Also, it was commented that the applicants for the Super Heavyweight category was at an "all time high"... coincidental that Kevin Evans has retired??? I think not.

sweetscience · Post by **sweetscience** » 04 Apr 2007, 18:25

the welsh have had a few decent ams thou

darren edwards was a gud un at 54/57kg - what happened to him?

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 05 Apr 2007, 06:08

Retired after the Commonwealths.

Ally-M1 · Post by **Ally-M1** » 05 Apr 2007, 06:31

sweetscience wrote:
Horse wrote:
Ally-M1 wrote: Harrison sadly has four trials to face this year... They include three here in Scotland and one in Spain on various charges such as breach of the peach, threatning behaviour, possesion of drugs, assault.

I think with these impending court dates, Scott may not be in the ring again, if he decides to return of course, for some time.
Is there any legal reason why he cannot fight between those court dates, as unlikely as that would be?
surely the board must have took his licence

I'm not 100% with regards to his licence, it may be suspended but not overly sure...

It is certain though he won't be sanctioned for a fight whilst he has four trials awaiting him...

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 05 Apr 2007, 10:12

Ally-M1 wrote:
sweetscience wrote:
Horse wrote: Is there any legal reason why he cannot fight between those court dates, as unlikely as that would be?
surely the board must have took his licence
I'm not 100% with regards to his licence, it may be suspended but not overly sure...

It is certain though he won't be sanctioned for a fight whilst he has four trials awaiting him...

I believe he is suspended after he missed a hearing with the BBBofC, after he pulled out of the Cook fight.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 05 Apr 2007, 13:45

Ally-M1 wrote:
Horse wrote:
Ally-M1 wrote:I'm suprised Scott Harrison is still in there, we have no idea if he'll ever make it in to the ring again...

I'd love to see him return but at this point, it won't be anytime soon.
Does anyone know how his legal problems are going?

I might well have to take him out soon as he has been inactive for 16 Months, and doesn't look likely to be back in the ring anytime soon, like you said.
Harrison sadly has four trials to face this year... They include three here in Scotland and one in Spain on various charges such as breach of the peach, threatning behaviour, possesion of drugs, assault.

I think with these impending court dates, Scott may not be in the ring again, if he decides to return of course, for some time.

Breach of the peach!?

Is that a code for non-consensual bum sex?

British Top 30 P4P April 2007

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