David Haye -v- Enzo Maccarinelli?

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 08 Apr 2007, 11:51

I'd like to see this one, as it would be explosive.

Jim Rosenthal seemed to dismiss Haye's chances on the grounds that Haye has a supposed weak chin, were it to come to fruition, but I think he would have a decent chance of victory.

The loss to Thompson has really educated him as a fighter.

I think Haye would win on a mid rounds TKO.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 08 Apr 2007, 12:13

Dunno really, Macca's looking pretty solid and the Hobson & Dominguez wins have readied him for the next level.

Macca looks way stronger physically than haye. Haye, meanwhile, I think does better against tall guys who have their chins up (watch out, Mac!).

Very hard to pick. Haye's having weight troubles. They had the chance to fight. It would've been a main event for Mac Attack. Perhaps Warren wants to save such things for when Calzaghe is retired.

Most likely, Macca v Wlodarczyk and Haye v Mormeck.

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 08 Apr 2007, 14:30

I wouldn't be too sure about a Wlodarczyk fight. Enzo, were he to beat Wlodarczyk, would have to fight either Huck or Tokarev next. Leaving aside the fact that Sauerland (if Huck wins the eliminator) would be a huge challenge to SN to get the fight in Germany, that would be, like, TWO good fights for Enzo in a row, and that just won't happen. I'm not joking either.

Mormeck will have to face Haye next, unless Haye withdraws due to weight issues, or Mormeck drops the WBC title (which I can't see him doing just to fight Enzo.)

I can only see another crappy defence next. A step up from Gunn, but then that's not exactly hard. Cantatore or some such.

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 08 Apr 2007, 14:53

Syntax Error wrote:I'd like to see this one, as it would be explosive.

Jim Rosenthal seemed to dismiss Haye's chances on the grounds that Haye has a supposed weak chin, were it to come to fruition, but I think he would have a decent chance of victory.

The loss to Thompson has really educated him as a fighter.

I think Haye would win on a mid rounds TKO.

yeah i laughed at that bit.

we all know enzo has issues on that one as well.

haye would blast enzo i reckon.

too sharp on the draw for the lumbering welshman.

yiddo14 · Post by **yiddo14** » 09 Apr 2007, 02:08

I'am with Hitman Hatton 1 on this one.

Suggesting Haye has a poor chin yet Enzo does'nt was'nt that suprising coming from the sports network cheerleaders on ITV.

I would back Haye to stop him pretty early.
Bell and Mormeck would beat him too.

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 09 Apr 2007, 03:28

Enzo would spark Haye.

David is an excellent puncher and has a massive heart. But his chin is like china

Enzo is putting his combos together well know and each punch is a KO blow.

Eno is the best of all the champions for me. He just hits too damn hard.

m1kee50 · Post by **m1kee50** » 09 Apr 2007, 03:29

yiddo14 wrote:I'am with Hitman Hatton 1 on this one.

Suggesting Haye has a poor chin yet Enzo does'nt was'nt that suprising coming from the sports network cheerleaders on ITV.

I would back Haye to stop him pretty early.
Bell and Mormeck would beat him too.

battle of the chins with haye and enzo - i tip Enzo but its very close. I think he has tremendous power tho. as for the others, they have been plying their trade at a high level for long time, he will take a huck or tokarev or aurino fight to step up tp their level first

Ally-M1 · Post by **Ally-M1** » 09 Apr 2007, 05:12

I'd go for Haye but...

It won't happen - Haye can't make the weight much longer.

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 09 Apr 2007, 07:25

I think Haye's jab is looking much better than it once was an behind that I think he could fasion a good victory.

I think the quality that haye has been fighting has been far superiour than Enzo's If we look at there last 4 opponents Haye beat Fragomeni who had good ameter pedagree and was undefeated as a pro, Ismail Abdoul who wasn't terrably good but was baiscally a public sparing session so he could show the world his jab Lasse Johansen undefeated resonable opponent and Alexander Gurov who's caliber no one will really question.

However Enzo's last opponent was this gun bloke, who wasn't even fit to lace Ismail Abdoul's gloves, Hobson twice whos okay but pedestrian and Marcelo Fabian Dominguez who was on the slide and not great.

I just think Haye has class and proves that by taking hard fights which Warren has been protecting Enzo from

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 09 Apr 2007, 07:42

KO Artist wrote:Enzo would spark Haye.

David is an excellent puncher and has a massive heart. But his chin is like china

Enzo is putting his combos together well know and each punch is a KO blow.

Eno is the best of all the champions for me. He just hits too damn hard.

wtf

still no contest, still no great argument, still not a 50 50, haye destroys enzo everytime. cant believe you all thought this one would happen at one stage.

leforge · Post by **leforge** » 09 Apr 2007, 07:44

Haye would beat Enzo, Enzo will defend the WBO for ages like Joe.

yiddo14 · Post by **yiddo14** » 09 Apr 2007, 10:59

leforge wrote:Haye would beat Enzo, Enzo will defend the WBO for ages like Joe.

I don't think he will defend for too long.
Hopefully we will get a decent mandatory for Enzo soon...there goes his "title".

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 09 Apr 2007, 13:13

Problem with the WBO is they don't always have the hardest possible manditories so Warren can avoid a seriouse challange

Haye is ranked 3rd by them not sure who the guy at no. 1 (Firat Arslan) is don't think I have seen him.

E · Post by E » 09 Apr 2007, 13:19

This is the most exciting fight in world boxing. They could fight 10 times and ther ewould be 10 different results.

Who knows?

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 09 Apr 2007, 13:27

E wrote:This is the most exciting fight in world boxing. They could fight 10 times and ther ewould be 10 different results.

Who knows?

Well I think 7 out of 10 times Haye would win the key difference being that Thompson has much more class than Lee Sawby, the thing that makes boxing great is that it just takes one punch with these guys. Haye Hide is the most exciting fight in world boxing in my oppinion

Lenny · Post by **Lenny** » 10 Apr 2007, 05:35

Anyone see Haye on s.occer am on Saturday? He seems to have bulked up well for his fight at heavy, kept saying how he wanted to keep his speed at the higher weight. I think if he wins well we won't see him back at cruiser

Scrap · Post by **Scrap** » 10 Apr 2007, 06:21

What Ive seen of Haye, He hasnt learned from the Thompson fight. But the people around him have.

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 10 Apr 2007, 06:34

The problem with Enzo is that he has no defence, doesn't use his height, and eats up punches. Could spell disaster, btu then again Haye looks kind of shaky too. Who knows?!

Twinkle Toes · Post by **Twinkle Toes** » 10 Apr 2007, 06:40

Enzo would be a slight favourite for me.

I like Haye a lot, but i'm not so convinced he has the same resillience as Enzo and that in my opinion is what would be the deciding factor if the two ever met in the ring.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 10 Apr 2007, 07:33

Both have Improved.

Enzo works off the jab a bit more and his guard Is more tight since he moved to Enzo Calzaghe.

Haye's stamina has Improved and Is going the longer rounds that we wanted to see him go and has good hand speed and head movement, although has lower guard that Macca.

Haye seems to Improve more In Miami than he does with Booth though.

Both show good heart to fight too like with Haye with the Italian and Macca In the 1st Hobson fight.

Either could win by KO but I'd favour Haye more.

WildWaylon · Post by **WildWaylon** » 10 Apr 2007, 07:37

Although I would lean towards Enzo, I dont think anyone could predict the outcome of Haye v Macca - Both men are big hitters very capable of KOing the other and both leave themselves a bit open - Its who gets the big bomb on the other who wins - No fight could be more 50/50 - The reason I think Enzo has the edge, IMO David would do all he could to land the punch early on - Enzo would I think play the waiting game, let David get tired and miss a lot, and then go for the KO - Haye would IMO think his best chance would be to get Enzo before Enzo got him so he would be looking for the KO from rnd 1 - Enzo is tough and can weather a storm so would be looking to play the Thompson role - Its just an opinion, as I said before its a true 50/50 that could go either way with just one big punch.

THEBUTCH · Post by **THEBUTCH** » 10 Apr 2007, 09:11

SN owe boxing this fight after Enzo's latest debacle.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 10 Apr 2007, 09:19

Maybe It would be better waiting for Enzo Vs Haye after Haye fights Mormeck.

yiddo14 · Post by **yiddo14** » 10 Apr 2007, 12:22

If Haye beats Mormeck,he will have beat the very best at cruiser,fighting an unproven cruiser like Enzo would do very little for him.Haye would move straight to heavy full time.
The only way I see this fight coming off is if Haye loses to Mormeck when they fight.
Even then,I would still expect Haye to move up after that setback.

It's a shame but this fight should have happened saturday night,it did'nt,and I'am afraid that means we won't ever see them share a ring

Grilling Machine · Post by **Grilling Machine** » 10 Apr 2007, 16:19

I'd love to see Enzo, David and Herbie get it on. Hide vs. Haye ideally, but any combo's good.

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