ITV not happy with Saturday show

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 12 Apr 2007, 12:24

nickd wrote:
leforge wrote:They had Skelton v Williams twice, Harrison V Williams twice, Harrison V Sprott as main bills. Skelton V krence as well.
Is that meant to be impressive? The Williams v Skelton fights were hideous, Harrison v Williams 1 was one of the worst fights I have ever seen in my life.

The only one that was good out of that list was Sprott Vs Harrison since Audley was Ko'ed cold and the 1st Skelton Vs Williams although Skelton was a dirty bastard that night.

Maybe Hennessy could try again and get on ITV? Witter's WBC champ now and Froch's looking a bit better and Isn't fighting Matthew Barney again.

The fact is FW shows are crap. How many rematches have we had? we've had williams vs harrison, hobson vs keeton, williams vs skelton.

Don't forget Skelton Vs Sprott 2 next month. :P

I have enjoyed Calzaghe fights on ITV and the 1st Skelton Vs Williams and Audley getting ko'ed cold + Earl Vs Katisdis.

Except for Hennessey with Witter though, Warren's the only one whos got the talent for and the only one who can afford to stage most world class fights.

Without Hatton Fight Academy would be only doing Leisure centres.

I'm glad boxings on ITV though, I'd hate to have to go the pub too much to watching boxing, I already do that because I don't have Sky Sports and I don't drink Alcohol and pubs stink.

Plus most of the time theres no sound on.

Chesney_Chambers · Post by **Chesney_Chambers** » 13 Apr 2007, 10:13

Last weekends boxing, what a shower of shyte!!!!

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Sorry I'm late bringing up this subject, but I've been expelling liquids from various parts of my body at very high speed for the last few days and calling Warren a pudendum hasn't been at the top of my priorities....but it is now(allegedly you're a pudendum).

Going into last weekends fights I wasn't expecting much at all due to the diabolical match-ups and I still managed to feel let down at then end of it. The casual fans and the 35000 mugs who were expecting a decent fight, must have been devo'd

Jennings-Takaloo looked like the only decently matched scrap on the bill and even that turned into a one-sided drubbing (the judges need drug testing, before being banned from the sport).

Who the fornicate was that useless fat bastard who Enzo beat in seconds, I'm a 5 foot 10, 12 stone pacifist and I'd have fancied my chances against him. Enzo could and should have been fighting Haye in the biggest all-British clash in years, but Frank got involved and instead he ended up 'fighting' an ex-welterweight with a waistline bigger than his height who had the speed of a tectonic plate....and FW has the cheek to call it a World title bout I think even Enzo was embarrassed at how shit he was....FIGHT SOMEBODY WITH A PULSE!!!

The Calzaghe bout was wank, we all new it was going to be, but even that was made worse by the fact that Manfredo refused to throw punches and the stoppage was premature (even though Manfredo wasn't throwing), because Calzaghe wasn't landing with those 10 a second piss-poor punches he was throwing, I saw a better fight on the Sports Bar car park last week. Q:Why couldn't Calzaghe have been fighting Carl Froch last weekend???? A: Calzaghe and Warren are pudenda.

I've heard Calzaghe moan in the past about how he doesn't get the respect he deserves, is it any surprise!!!!
Did Steffy Bull throw a punch yet alone land one, another one-sided mismatch. Its good to hear that he's supposedly stepping it up and wants to face Jon Thaxton.

It could and should be great having boxing on terrestrial TV, but you can see why they're considering not renewing their contract with Warren, on the whole the top-level fights that Franks supplied have been shit. Johnson-Woods was a good fight, but that was only on ITV as it posed no risk to Warren. Calzaghe-Lacy was decent on paper and JC's performance got the man on the street talking about him, but he's lost all that momentum after the Bika and Manfredo debacles. If he's have followed that fight up with 1 or 2 out of Woods/Froch/Wright/Hopkins/Kessler then he's be a household name and a massive star (if he'd have won). Turning down top class challenges to fight dustbinmen and reality show stars is a sure fire way to repel the fans. JC and FW have only their selves to blame if the ITV thing goes tits up.

I just pray that ITV don't give up on boxing all together, they should just cherry-pick the best fights from all promoters as Sky did for a brief while, ITV hold the trump cards not Warren. Although ITV should shoulder some of the blame for signing an exclusive contract with FW (pudendum).

Frank Warrens time on ITV has been a shambles, he's turned what should have been a great opportunity to bring boxing back to the BIG time into a 'look what's wrong with boxing' show. It sickens me to the stomach.

tonyevs · Post by **tonyevs** » 13 Apr 2007, 11:48

leforge wrote:It was by Niall HIckman in the express yesterday they were expecting 5million viewers and got only 4.

I`d be surprised if they got 3million to watch next time... :(

leforge · Post by **leforge** » 13 Apr 2007, 12:06

I hope apart from Skelton v Sprott there some other competitive matches on the bill

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 13 Apr 2007, 12:10

leforge wrote:I hope apart from Skelton v Sprott there some other competitive matches on the bill

Early days but it looks like Mcneil vs Minter could be on the bill... Thats a good little match up.

leforge · Post by **leforge** » 13 Apr 2007, 12:11

I thought that was off due to them both losing on contender

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 13 Apr 2007, 12:12

leforge wrote:I thought that was off due to them both losing on contender

Isn't it a British title eliminator?

leforge · Post by **leforge** » 13 Apr 2007, 14:20

Yes its meant to be. But I thought I read that the fight was off due to this.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 13 Apr 2007, 16:23

Always great to hear more bile Chambers, especially when aimed at FWank.

FWanks is such an apt name as the whole show was FV CKING WA/NK.

He's put boxing on a big stage and made a mockery of it.

There is just no excuse for not making Calzaghe-Woods and Macca-Haye.

I'm overjoyed that the shit has hit the fan(ny). Let's hope ITV make him take his circus act SOMEWHERE ELSE.

FWANK has proved he doesn't deserve any contracts. Should be fight by fight negotiations from now on because that way is near foolproof way of getting competitive fights.

The ultimate irony is that he's talked about Kessler and Taylor. Neither has risen to his bait and they're both talking about fighting each other. Looks like you left it to late, matey!

If he's missed the boat, he and Joe only have their selves to blame. They should've been too embarrassed to go through with it last Sat.

revporl · Post by **revporl** » 14 Apr 2007, 06:36

It looks like the FW July "superfight" might be JC against RJJ (just had a look at BBC sports site)

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 14 Apr 2007, 07:23

At 168 I assume? Jones would be a near corpse if he made 168.

Fits the bill perfectly.

Then Calzaghe can mouth off how he'd always have beaten Jones even though he's 4-5 years past his best.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 14 Apr 2007, 07:35

revporl wrote:It looks like the FW July "superfight" might be JC against RJJ (just had a look at BBC sports site)

no way, that will never happen. Jones can't make 168 and Calzaghe only wants "historic title defenses." Inkin's a way better fight to make. If it comes to Joe-Jones - I - GIVE - UP

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 14 Apr 2007, 08:31

Final Fight wrote:
revporl wrote:It looks like the FW July "superfight" might be JC against RJJ (just had a look at BBC sports site)
no way, that will never happen. Jones can't make 168 and Calzaghe only wants "historic title defenses." Inkin's a way better fight to make. If it comes to Joe-Jones - I - GIVE - UP

In Calzaghe's mind I am sure Jones is a way more historic title defence than Inkin. Look at it from that perspective.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 14 Apr 2007, 08:45

Final Fight wrote:
revporl wrote:It looks like the FW July "superfight" might be JC against RJJ (just had a look at BBC sports site)
no way, that will never happen. Jones can't make 168 and Calzaghe only wants "historic title defenses." Inkin's a way better fight to make. If it comes to Joe-Jones - I - GIVE - UP

I gave up long ago I'm afraid... :x

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 14 Apr 2007, 08:47

nickd wrote:
Final Fight wrote:
revporl wrote:It looks like the FW July "superfight" might be JC against RJJ (just had a look at BBC sports site)
no way, that will never happen. Jones can't make 168 and Calzaghe only wants "historic title defenses." Inkin's a way better fight to make. If it comes to Joe-Jones - I - GIVE - UP
In Calzaghe's mind I am sure Jones is a way more historic title defence than Inkin. Look at it from that perspective.

A damn sight safer as well, considering Jones is as shot as 6 month old toast... Jones must be pretty desperate to want to fight Calzaghe now...

leforge · Post by **leforge** » 14 Apr 2007, 08:50

I think Joe would beat Jones comfortably on points at lt heavy. Jones wont make super middle. I dont reckon Joe will fight before September.

Chesney_Chambers · Post by **Chesney_Chambers** » 16 Apr 2007, 07:34

After the Lacy fight RJJ said that he'd fight Joe, then when the negotiations started he said that he wanted stupid money (around $8m I think)

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 16 Apr 2007, 07:40

Chesney_Chambers wrote:After the Lacy fight RJJ said that he'd fight Joe, then when the negotiations started he said that he wanted stupid money (around $8m I think)

now he's saying winner gets 60-40 but who can trust Roy at this stage?

boxingchat · Post by **boxingchat** » 16 Apr 2007, 11:11

leforge wrote:It was by Niall HIckman in the express yesterday they were expecting 5million viewers and got only 4.

Hickman was expecting 25k to write Hatton's bile-filled book. In reality he got £2,600 and sued in court.

G-man · Post by **G-man** » 16 Apr 2007, 13:13

emma wrote:Typical ITV pull the plug and Kell hasnt even been on tv yet

Perhaps aswell he wasn't last week anyway what with getting dropped.

funso banjo baby · Post by **funso banjo baby** » 16 Apr 2007, 15:25

the bbc's short run with Audley actually offered us much better quality

apart from Audley of course ..there was

Williams v sprott 1 and 2

Williams v Keith Long

williams V sam Euro

we saw the HW prospects bill featuring joe Mesi

we saw mesi v barratt

we saw the emergence of Carl Froch and david haye (mock and thompson)

and who can forget Thompson versus rothman ????

why the hell couldnt itv do that

im livid

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 16 Apr 2007, 16:37

the contender Anthony small fight is on itv 4 now bet you all missed that one

m1kee50 · Post by **m1kee50** » 16 Apr 2007, 16:51

watching it now actually lol.

i think what has fcuked itv is they dont get a main event - you have 4 ITVS to choose from and all the other channels, you need the show to be exciting enough for the armchair fan. i watched the whole lot, mainly bcos i dont get to see enough to miss any when its on. but there are so many good matchups available domestic and international, but bcos promoiters dont want to lose their unbeaten prospects, we get mismatches.

i wish we were back in 1943 sometimes...... in terms of matchmaking. SRR and Lamotta fought 3 times in 5 weeks. When would you ever get anything as good as that nowadays?. Sky nearly always has a good fight on every friday, either bought delayed from america or a 'small hall' fight from UK.

why ITV feels it cant do the same - if it achieved a similar quality it would pull in more audience probably because it is free....

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 16 Apr 2007, 17:09

funso banjo baby wrote:the bbc's short run with Audley actually offered us much better quality

apart from Audley of course ..there was

Williams v sprott 1 and 2

Williams v Keith Long

williams V sam Euro

we saw the HW prospects bill featuring joe Mesi

we saw mesi v barratt

we saw the emergence of Carl Froch and david haye (mock and thompson)

and who can forget Thompson versus rothman ????

why the hell couldnt itv do that

im livid

Don't forget Witter, back when he was a banger and entertaining.

Top Dog · Post by **Top Dog** » 16 Apr 2007, 17:32

REAL_DEAL wrote:the contender Anthony small fight is on itv 4 now bet you all missed that one

I saw the fight, but I wished I hadnt! Shit fight, dont like Small or his style. He's trying to be the new Naz, but cant do it as well as Naz, he will get found out when he steps up.