I TAKE IT WE ALL WANT CHAGAEV TO SLAY THE BEAST..?

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 14 Apr 2007, 15:38

I just don't like the way fans and the press call him a freak etc. Even Boxing News called him The Incredable Hulk, very tacky of them I thought. It's not his fauly he is so huge, the guy may be way short of a future all time great but he CAN fight and has learnt to use his size to his advantage.

If people had called Ady Lewis or Baby Jake Matlala etc Dwarfs, midgits etc many fans would have been offended so why is Valuev fair game to any insult fans and the media deem to throw at him?

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 14 Apr 2007, 16:09

I'll be rooting for Valuev too. I don't mind the guy, think people give him too much stick. Atleast he fights regularly, plus if he does lose then that'll fornicate up the megafight with Wlad!

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 14 Apr 2007, 19:46

Chagaev won!

Man I got to watch this fight eventually.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 15 Apr 2007, 03:26

Sounds like it was a fair result, Valuev showed his class afterwards agreeing with the decision, and just saying he'll get back into training and fight for the title again.

shoutout · Post by **shoutout** » 15 Apr 2007, 05:03

Max Molyneux wrote:I'd say his chin has only looked good because no one has an easy time reaching In with enough power.

Chagaev doesn't have the speed or headmovement Ruiz had when he outboxed Valuev either.

Chagaev's good on the Inside but Valuev can spoil that with size and holding.

he was also good enuf to win a competitive decision over ruiz...whatever that's worth!!

shoutout · Post by **shoutout** » 15 Apr 2007, 05:04

Max Molyneux wrote:Chagaev won!

Man I got to watch this fight eventually.

good for chagaev and good for boxing!!

shoutout · Post by **shoutout** » 15 Apr 2007, 05:07

KOJOE90 wrote:I just don't like the way fans and the press call him a freak etc. Even Boxing News called him The Incredable Hulk, very tacky of them I thought. It's not his fauly he is so huge, the guy may be way short of a future all time great but he CAN fight and has learnt to use his size to his advantage.

If people had called Ady Lewis or Baby Jake Matlala etc Dwarfs, midgits etc many fans would have been offended so why is Valuev fair game to any insult fans and the media deem to throw at him?

people tend to sympathize with the undersized/underdog...the gigantic oaf like valuev is viewed as more of a goliath---hairy back and all.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 15 Apr 2007, 05:10

shoutout2u wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:I'd say his chin has only looked good because no one has an easy time reaching In with enough power.

Chagaev doesn't have the speed or headmovement Ruiz had when he outboxed Valuev either.

Chagaev's good on the Inside but Valuev can spoil that with size and holding.
he was also good enuf to win a competitive decision over ruiz...whatever that's worth!!

But beating Ruiz on his own terms is good, i.e. in close, inside - without making the fight a total stinker.

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 15 Apr 2007, 13:37

For those who havent seen too much of the new WBA champ = here are a couple of his earlier fights for download:

His rematch with Calloway and the Michael Sprott match

(All credit to mad_russian for uploading them

..)

Ruslan Chagaev vs. Michael Sprott, 234 Mb, AVI, Russian commentary.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TLCVEM29

Ruslan Chagaev vs. Rob Calloway, 26 Mb, NSV, German commentary.
(use Winamp or similar app to handle it)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E8ZMLKIV

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 16 Apr 2007, 05:00

Final Fight wrote:
shoutout2u wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:I'd say his chin has only looked good because no one has an easy time reaching In with enough power.

Chagaev doesn't have the speed or headmovement Ruiz had when he outboxed Valuev either.

Chagaev's good on the Inside but Valuev can spoil that with size and holding.
he was also good enuf to win a competitive decision over ruiz...whatever that's worth!!
But beating Ruiz on his own terms is good, i.e. in close, inside - without making the fight a total stinker.

Chagaev did beat Ruiz unlike Valuev though.

Valuev Is Ruiz's slave.