I hope de la hoya knocks..

chevychase · Post by **chevychase** » 18 Apr 2007, 14:35

...mayweather out.

never wanted a boxer knocked out as much as him before.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 18 Apr 2007, 14:38

Just watched 24/7 I guess???

Go Oscar!!!!!!

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 18 Apr 2007, 15:00

Floyd is a big mouth but he walks the walk in the ring and he should be respected for taking this fight against such a bigger man... if he beats Oscar then it will be a great performance...

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 18 Apr 2007, 15:12

I actually thought Floyd was the most sensible one of the Mayweather's. His father and Uncle (especially) had bigger gobs. Roger played the race card after the hearing.... a bit rediculous really and he seemed about as sorry for his antics as allegedly was for Audley when Danny put him down.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 18 Apr 2007, 15:45

I think Mayweather is playing up to the camera's a bit, but he's taken it a little to far.
I certainly want to see De La Hoya win, but think he starts a big underdog.
Roger Mayweather was a good boxer, and i used to like to watch him fight, but this promo didn't do him any favours.
Still can't quite see who's pulling the strings for Mayweather Jnr, he says that Uncle Roger is the man in charge, so why bring his dad back in?
Think that show's De La Hoya that he's slightly worried about what Oscar brings to the ring, trying to get the inside knowledge on any weaknesses.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 19 Apr 2007, 02:19

I thought the Mayweathers and Ellerbe acted pathetically. ie black man with money HAS TO equal - gibbering/inarticulate gangsta.

Ellerbe at the hearing, "What happened (during Mayweather-Judah) is not a reflection of how we present ourselves in boxing."

Come again?

Seeing Roger laughing afterward, well what a graceless prick.

yiddo14 · Post by **yiddo14** » 19 Apr 2007, 02:29

It's all too contenderish for me.
The interviews at home,bringing the family into it during the build up etc etc....
Both fighters(especially Floyd)are playing upto the camera's,but what else can you expect when this fight has had something like a ten city tour to promote it

It's pretty clear Floyd(although over acting in 24/7)does seem to be a bit of a cock,but given the absolute fvck wits that are his father and uncle, that has to be expected.

Hope DLH beat's him.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 19 Apr 2007, 04:20

They're portraying the good guy / bad guy quite well. I mean, what neutral / casual fan would be plumping for PBF after the 24/7 programme? Are there more 24/7's to come?

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 19 Apr 2007, 04:45

Hard to warm to obnoxious Floyd, but don't fall for the Oscar PR machine. That Sky promo had Golden Boy's hand prints all over it: just check how they labeled uncle Roger's actions as "one of the most outrageous acts ever seen in a ring.."

That tells you right there that Floyd and co had zero to do with making that doc, and it was an exercise in cranking up Oscar's good guy image - something, I have to say, that isn't reflected in the way Oscar has conducted his career - dumping trainers & early backers left right and centre.

Roll up roll up - get your tickets now & contribute to Oscar's testimonial and retirement fund!

Floyd is going to take him to school, and I think Oscar knows it too.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 19 Apr 2007, 05:08

MightyWarrior wrote:Hard to warm to obnoxious Floyd, but don't fall for the Oscar PR machine. That Sky promo had Golden Boy's hand prints all over it:

Wasn't it a HBO production?

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 19 Apr 2007, 06:40

Floyd did say at the start of the programme that someone has to be the bad guy, and he was going to play the part to the full.

I don't Floyd is as bad as he's portrayed sometimes, remember in the Judah fight, When all his Corner were going mad, he just stood away from it in a neutral corner, He knew if he got involved than he'd stand a chance of getting disqualified. Shows he knows when to act and when to stay out of it. Maybe he plays up to it when the camera's are there.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 19 Apr 2007, 07:16

KOJOE90 wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote:Hard to warm to obnoxious Floyd, but don't fall for the Oscar PR machine. That Sky promo had Golden Boy's hand prints all over it:
Wasn't it a HBO production?

I don't think it was...HBO would be a bit more even handed - must say their promos are the best in the world, can't be beat & the amateurs at Sky should take note. Sky promos look like they cost about 10 quid.

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 19 Apr 2007, 07:58

The more I think about it, the more I like mayweather in this one.

As MW says, you can almost put this fight down as a DLH testimonial.
He wont be at the races IMO.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 19 Apr 2007, 09:52

MightyWarrior wrote:
KOJOE90 wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote:Hard to warm to obnoxious Floyd, but don't fall for the Oscar PR machine. That Sky promo had Golden Boy's hand prints all over it:
Wasn't it a HBO production?
I don't think it was...HBO would be a bit more even handed - must say their promos are the best in the world, can't be beat & the amateurs at Sky should take note. Sky promos look like they cost about 10 quid.

Can you really see SKY bothering to do a four part build up on a fight not even on PVP? And calling it the same as the HBO four part build up? With no British fighters involved?

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 19 Apr 2007, 09:59

yiddo14 wrote: It's pretty clear Floyd(although over acting in 24/7)does seem to be a bit of a cock,but given the absolute fvck wits that are his father and uncle, that has to be expected.
.

My thoughts exactly. You can see why he is such a bellend being raised by this class of person. An interview this morning off fightnews with Roger really put me off the guy, meaningless gangsta gibberish with the word "f#ck" basically used for punctuation.

Anyone thinking DLH will beat or knock out PBF is deluding themselves though. PBF is just going to be way too quick and clever for him. I hope he gets his own Glencoffee Johnson/RJJ night eventually.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 19 Apr 2007, 11:12

Well, we shall see, I initially went for Floyd, and thought Oscar had little chance, but that was before it was scheduled at 154, and Oscar showed that he still had quite a bit left in the tank in his last fight.

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 19 Apr 2007, 11:15

Against a crude swinging punch bag.

Mayorga is no Mayweather in any shape or form.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 19 Apr 2007, 11:36

Yes, I am aware of that OBVIOUSLY. Initially I was not impressed, as Mayorga was clearly tailor made.

However, Mayorga is a big strong lad, and what DID impress me was Oscar's power at the weight, at this stage of his career.

Moving up in weight against a fighter of Oscar's class and big fight experience, to a weight bracket you are totally unproven in, is a big ask, even for Floyd, and I am not of the opinion that he is superhuman either, because no fighter is.

Floyd is a great technician, but the fact he won't be able to (we surmise) hurt Oscar, I think is going to be a decisive factor.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 19 Apr 2007, 11:37

I think that Mayweather will have to much speed for Oscar, the boxer to push Mayweather close was Jose Luis Castillo, and he did that by being in Floyds face for the whole of the 12 rounds, and i can't see Oscar doing that, as its not his style.

The only way i see Oscar winning is by taking Floyd out with a big shot, and Oscar has the 1 shot power to do this.

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 19 Apr 2007, 18:59

prime wrote:De La Hoya to KO this spade.

You are a 'Prime' candidate to get banned with BS like that mate.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 20 Apr 2007, 03:00

prime wrote:De La Hoya to KO this spade.

fornicate you , never post again. prick.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 20 Apr 2007, 06:43

TerribleTerry wrote:
prime wrote:De La Hoya to KO this spade.
You are a 'Prime' candidate to get banned with BS like that mate.

Is that a racial epitaph? Haven't heard that 1 before

I've gone back and forth on this 1 allot. But am going for Mayweather UD, DLH is better than anyone Mayweathers faced though, the biggest, the hardest hitter, the strongest, the most skilled, faster than most (Judahs faster). I think Mayweather has the accuracy, defense, workrate, speed and yes the chin to win the UD though. I also think DLH can be too upright and mechanical. Mayweather should figure him out.

I don't buy DLH nice guy act and Mayweather bad guy act at all. DLh is supposefly slimmy and low behind closed doors and he can come across asa phony. Mayweather can seem pleasant and decent when the cameras aren't around.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 20 Apr 2007, 07:13

prime wrote:De La Hoya to KO this spade.

Anymore racist comments like that and your banned.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 20 Apr 2007, 09:11

Terry D wrote:We used it a fair bit when I was growing up to insult someone who was stupid. Then we moved onto spanner. It is a US term for insulting a black guy.

US? I don't think so mate, it's an old London saying, used to be extremely prevalent before racist language got cracked down on in the 90's. My cousin says it all the time.

Comes from the saying "As black as the ace of spades."

I'd love to see what happened if the prick who called Mayweather a spade on here tried saying it to his face.

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 20 Apr 2007, 09:14

Christ do black dudes get this p#ssed off if they hear another black dude refer to a white man as a honky?

Doubt it............