anyway all the best with ur career and i hope u get a good fight downunder
Chauncy Welliver vs Colin Wilson
Chauncy i was wondering who are some of the notable fighters you have sparred with? who is the best and are there any fightery who are killers in the gym but fail to turn it on under the bright lights? i hear Mo harris was the man when it came to sparring
anyway all the best with ur career and i hope u get a good fight downunder
anyway all the best with ur career and i hope u get a good fight downunder
Thanks for the info Chaunc, I wish you all the bestChauncy wrote:To be honest, there is no final destination in my career.Marlin wrote:Just out of interest Chauncy I would like to know if you a have a long term plan for your career? Is there an opponent (or belt) you are working towards or are you just looking for the best fights possible at any given time? I applaud you for having a go and never shying away from a challenge but just wondering if there is a ultimate goal?
Cheers.
Here's a small story that will explain my goals in boxing.
When I was a kid I would go to this plae called the Eagles lodge with my dad. When we would go through the locker room there was this guy, just an old guy, same as everybody else in that room, but everybody treated this guy with so much respect. This guy was like a king, and I remember one day me dad leaned over and said, "He fought Sugar Ray Robinson"! From that point on, that guy was the coolest guy in my book. I never knew his name, and he may have been 0-100, but he fought a legend.
I want to one day walk in a room and have somebody lean to their kid and say I was a former fighter that never turned down a challenge. :)
Me too!Grant wrote:Id pay to see you fight cameronChauncy wrote:It's just a keep busy fight. I have offered to fight anybody, and if anybody does accept, either the money is way to little, or it's to little of notice.Grant wrote:Chauncy your next fight is a bit ordinary.
rated at 600 plus.
your staring to do a bit of Shannon Tayloring here.
I just don't wanna get rusty for when I do get the call.
I would like to fight Colin Wilson, Shane, Cameron, or Kali Meehan. Big Bob was a player I wanted to fight, but he has been getting beat up as of late.
Shane Cameron is the fight I really want, but me and him have sparred, and he wont fight me due to that.
I have been in with a bunch of good and great fighters. Here's a few.nicos wrote:Chauncy i was wondering who are some of the notable fighters you have sparred with? who is the best and are there any fightery who are killers in the gym but fail to turn it on under the bright lights? i hear Mo harris was the man when it came to sparring
anyway all the best with ur career and i hope u get a good fight downunder
David Tua, Shane Cameron, Bob Mirovic, Herbie Hide, Joe Mesi, Wlad Klitschko, Ruslan Chaguev, Audley Harrison, Virgil Hill, Montell Griffin, Mike Tyson, David Defiagbon, Juan Carlos Gomez, Mo Harris, Shannon Briggs, Oleg Maskaev, Taurus Sykes, Vasiliy Jirov, Joe Hipp, Javier Mora, Cliff Etienne, Duncan Dokiwari, Charles Shufford, Arthur Williams, and others that don't come to mind at the moment.
You hit the nail on the head about Mo Harris. He is one of the best I have been in with for the first 2 rounds everyday. But the next 2 were mine easy as he was never in shape. Much better than his record I can say.
The hardest hitter- Duncan Dokiwari, by a mile. That guy could punch through a brick wall, I tell you.
The best body punchers- Vasiliy or Defiagbon. You would never guess that from Defiagbon, but he could work it with regularity, if not with power.
Best defense- Juan Carlos Gomez. He's a brawler most of the time, but when he don't wanna get hit, he wont! or Montell Griffin. Don't think I ever even hit him.
Best jab- Mo Harris
Best right hand- David Tua
Best Left hook- David Tua or Joe Mesi
Just some info on some of the guys.
Been in with many. Making up for lack of amatuer experience.
Is there a living to be made as a sparring partner?
Do you get a percentage of the purse?
Its great to talk to you Chauncy. Most fighters end up like rock stars and become too important to speak with us fans.
It must be tough trying to earn a good rep in the heavyweight division. There are so many shysters, hangers on and dodgey promotors.
Good luck mate
Do you get a percentage of the purse?
Its great to talk to you Chauncy. Most fighters end up like rock stars and become too important to speak with us fans.
It must be tough trying to earn a good rep in the heavyweight division. There are so many shysters, hangers on and dodgey promotors.
Good luck mate
I have made more money as a sparring partner than I have fighting. There is really no set price to what $ you get, just what you can negotiate beforehand.Grant wrote:Is there a living to be made as a sparring partner?
Do you get a percentage of the purse?
Its great to talk to you Chauncy. Most fighters end up like rock stars and become too important to speak with us fans.
It must be tough trying to earn a good rep in the heavyweight division. There are so many shysters, hangers on and dodgey promotors.
Good luck mate
It really is hard to be a heavyweight. I really wish I came around 10 years earlier when the division had some respect and $$$. Now it seems even people who know nothing about boxing know the heavyweight division is dead.
I boxed in the amatuers, but not much great experience.nicos wrote:Thanks alot for the reply Chauncy. That sure is a fair list of fighters u have traded punches with. u said u had no ametuer experiance, how far into your pro career did u start sparring boxers of the calibre you mentioned? thanks again very interesting
I actually became a sparring partner when I was a toughman fighter for Shannon Briggs and I did great. Then I went to Big Bear with Cliff Etienne and the ball started rolling from there.
Me and Colin are still both ranked very high in the Asia Pacific, and we are a rare breed of fighters who are actually willing to fight a tougher challenge.Marlin wrote:What does Wilson's recent 10th round KO loss do for this fight? How long untill Wilson is allowed to fight again? 12 of his 20 losses are now by KO...
Colin has been stopped quite a bit in his career, but I admit, my power is very little, and though I feel I would land plenty of shots, I don't see a fighter of his caliber going down against me. With our styles, I picture this being a very tough fight, for the both of us, and I don't say that to hype it up, I say it because he has proven to be very durable, and he has fought the much better opposition than me, so maybe he can be my first true 12 round test?
N2Shape and me have spoken about this fight, and still agree that it is a great fight for his breakthrough promotion, and hopefully the loss this past weekend doesn't set him back to much.
Me and him need to have our promoters put their heads together and get this going. We can do it in either New Zealand, or Aussie.
Me and him need to have our promoters put their heads together and get this going. We can do it in either New Zealand, or Aussie.
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Everyones entitiled to their own opinon but the fact remains Cameron has turned Chauncy down many times!
Camerons camp openly come out in the NZ media and say they are looking for US opponents to face in NZ before going to the states in an attempt to build some reputation over their before they arrive. Chauncy is more than willing to be that opponent but still they continually dodge him! They are worried Chauncy will embarrass Cameron much like he did in sparring not so long ago!
Camerons camp openly come out in the NZ media and say they are looking for US opponents to face in NZ before going to the states in an attempt to build some reputation over their before they arrive. Chauncy is more than willing to be that opponent but still they continually dodge him! They are worried Chauncy will embarrass Cameron much like he did in sparring not so long ago!
N2 Shape wrote:Everyones entitiled to their own opinon but the fact remains Cameron has turned Chauncy down many times!
Camerons camp openly come out in the NZ media and say they are looking for US opponents to face in NZ before going to the states in an attempt to build some reputation over their before they arrive. Chauncy is more than willing to be that opponent but still they continually dodge him! They are worried Chauncy will embarrass Cameron much like he did in sparring not so long ago!
How did Chauncy embarrass Cameron in sparring!?! Did he outwork him landing more clean shots or did he make Cameron miss a lot? I am really interested because Cameron seems like a good prospect and I would like to know what you perceive to be the flaws you can use to beat him. I have taken a greater interest in Cameron since he KO'd Mirovic with a broken hand. (I like anyone who KO's Mirovic and I guess that means I like a fair few fighters
) Once again I can't really comment on the potential fight because I haven't seen Chauncy but it does appear that Chaunc is more experienced and that can sometimes make the difference...Me and Shane have sparred many times here in the States, and over in NZ.Marlin wrote:N2 Shape wrote:Everyones entitiled to their own opinon but the fact remains Cameron has turned Chauncy down many times!
Camerons camp openly come out in the NZ media and say they are looking for US opponents to face in NZ before going to the states in an attempt to build some reputation over their before they arrive. Chauncy is more than willing to be that opponent but still they continually dodge him! They are worried Chauncy will embarrass Cameron much like he did in sparring not so long ago!
How did Chauncy embarrass Cameron in sparring!?! Did he outwork him landing more clean shots or did he make Cameron miss a lot? I am really interested because Cameron seems like a good prospect and I would like to know what you perceive to be the flaws you can use to beat him. I have taken a greater interest in Cameron since he KO'd Mirovic with a broken hand. (I like anyone who KO's Mirovic and I guess that means I like a fair few fighters
The one thing I can say, Shane is very strong, but at the same time, Shane is very slow. I am not the greatest fighter to walk the planet, but I boxed circles around Shane. One day the news in NZ came to do a story on Shane, and I beat him up so bad in sparring that day, they did the story on me.
I'm not here to disrespect Shane, or call him names. I am here challenging him, something he shoud know the feeling of. He's been calling out Tua, but Tua won fight him til he fights a real challenge, like myself.
A win over me means a lot for Shane, here in the States, and in NZ. In the States I'm very well known for the men I have sparred, so Shane beating me would give him a name.
They say it doesn't mean anything in NZ. Outside David Tua and Shane, name bigger heavyweight name than me in NZ???
As I said, I'm not here talking mess, just here to let it be known that I have been calling Shanes name, but he turns a deaf ear to me.
I think you are to much of a risk for them, You very well might just outbox him for the 12 rounds and he would be exposed. Also your chin is good and he wouldn't be able to ko you like he has most of the lesser fighters he has beaten.Chauncy wrote:Me and Shane have sparred many times here in the States, and over in NZ.Marlin wrote:N2 Shape wrote:Everyones entitiled to their own opinon but the fact remains Cameron has turned Chauncy down many times!
Camerons camp openly come out in the NZ media and say they are looking for US opponents to face in NZ before going to the states in an attempt to build some reputation over their before they arrive. Chauncy is more than willing to be that opponent but still they continually dodge him! They are worried Chauncy will embarrass Cameron much like he did in sparring not so long ago!
How did Chauncy embarrass Cameron in sparring!?! Did he outwork him landing more clean shots or did he make Cameron miss a lot? I am really interested because Cameron seems like a good prospect and I would like to know what you perceive to be the flaws you can use to beat him. I have taken a greater interest in Cameron since he KO'd Mirovic with a broken hand. (I like anyone who KO's Mirovic and I guess that means I like a fair few fighters
The one thing I can say, Shane is very strong, but at the same time, Shane is very slow. I am not the greatest fighter to walk the planet, but I boxed circles around Shane. One day the news in NZ came to do a story on Shane, and I beat him up so bad in sparring that day, they did the story on me.
I'm not here to disrespect Shane, or call him names. I am here challenging him, something he shoud know the feeling of. He's been calling out Tua, but Tua won fight him til he fights a real challenge, like myself.
A win over me means a lot for Shane, here in the States, and in NZ. In the States I'm very well known for the men I have sparred, so Shane beating me would give him a name.
They say it doesn't mean anything in NZ. Outside David Tua and Shane, name bigger heavyweight name than me in NZ???
As I said, I'm not here talking mess, just here to let it be known that I have been calling Shanes name, but he turns a deaf ear to me.
Thats true Ben K, But you cant hide for ever and Shanes hiding at the moment behind guys like past their prime 42 year old Bob Mirovic, no disrespect to Mirovic he's a tough SOB but hes not the Mirovic of 10 years ago! Theres nothing else left here in NZ or Australia for Shane except Tua but Tua doesnt want it Camerons team are searching high and low for a suitable US opponent who a win over would earn them respect, they have one sitting right in front of their eyes but refuse to see or acknowledge it in Chauncy!
I like Shane, he's a kiwi and like all other kiwis i hope he does well. But business is business and outside of Tua VS Cameron the only other fight that makes sense to the NZ public is Cameron VS Welliver.
I like Shane, he's a kiwi and like all other kiwis i hope he does well. But business is business and outside of Tua VS Cameron the only other fight that makes sense to the NZ public is Cameron VS Welliver.
N2 Shape wrote:Thats true Ben K, But you cant hide for ever and Shanes hiding at the moment behind guys like past their prime 42 year old Bob Mirovic, no disrespect to Mirovic he's a tough SOB but hes not the Mirovic of 10 years ago! Theres nothing else left here in NZ or Australia for Shane except Tua but Tua doesnt want it Camerons team are searching high and low for a suitable US opponent who a win over would earn them respect, they have one sitting right in front of their eyes but refuse to see or acknowledge it in Chauncy!
I like Shane, he's a kiwi and like all other kiwis i hope he does well. But business is business and outside of Tua VS Cameron the only other fight that makes sense to the NZ public is Cameron VS Welliver.
I totally agree, Cameron is in a position were he dosn't have many chioces.N2 Shape wrote:Thats true Ben K, But you cant hide for ever and Shanes hiding at the moment behind guys like past their prime 42 year old Bob Mirovic, no disrespect to Mirovic he's a tough SOB but hes not the Mirovic of 10 years ago! Theres nothing else left here in NZ or Australia for Shane except Tua but Tua doesnt want it Camerons team are searching high and low for a suitable US opponent who a win over would earn them respect, they have one sitting right in front of their eyes but refuse to see or acknowledge it in Chauncy!
I like Shane, he's a kiwi and like all other kiwis i hope he does well. But business is business and outside of Tua VS Cameron the only other fight that makes sense to the NZ public is Cameron VS Welliver.
It would be a great fight and hopefully it will come off, I think Chauncy has a great chance of winning but would need to be on careful the entire fight as Cameron has genuine power.
Have you tried to get Meehan to fight or is he retired now. I havnt heard much about him for a long time.
We actually had Meehan signed to fight this past December, but he had to not figh tas he was highly being considered to fight Valuev for the title.ben k wrote:I totally agree, Cameron is in a position were he dosn't have many chioces.N2 Shape wrote:Thats true Ben K, But you cant hide for ever and Shanes hiding at the moment behind guys like past their prime 42 year old Bob Mirovic, no disrespect to Mirovic he's a tough SOB but hes not the Mirovic of 10 years ago! Theres nothing else left here in NZ or Australia for Shane except Tua but Tua doesnt want it Camerons team are searching high and low for a suitable US opponent who a win over would earn them respect, they have one sitting right in front of their eyes but refuse to see or acknowledge it in Chauncy!
I like Shane, he's a kiwi and like all other kiwis i hope he does well. But business is business and outside of Tua VS Cameron the only other fight that makes sense to the NZ public is Cameron VS Welliver.
It would be a great fight and hopefully it will come off, I think Chauncy has a great chance of winning but would need to be on careful the entire fight as Cameron has genuine power.
Have you tried to get Meehan to fight or is he retired now. I havnt heard much about him for a long time.
I have called on just about every good heavy from the AsPac region, as I want to have a true great fight in my adopted homeland of NZ. I love NZ, and I want to have a very meaningful fight there.
My hitlist is
1.Shane Cameron 2.Kali Meehan 3.Colin Wilson 4. Roger Izon 5. Big Bob Mirovic
Obviously not the best in the World, but definantly the best of that part of the World.
Im sure Mirovic would fight you, He has had some good fights over the years and although getting on he is still a decent opponent.Chauncy wrote:We actually had Meehan signed to fight this past December, but he had to not figh tas he was highly being considered to fight Valuev for the title.ben k wrote:I totally agree, Cameron is in a position were he dosn't have many chioces.N2 Shape wrote:Thats true Ben K, But you cant hide for ever and Shanes hiding at the moment behind guys like past their prime 42 year old Bob Mirovic, no disrespect to Mirovic he's a tough SOB but hes not the Mirovic of 10 years ago! Theres nothing else left here in NZ or Australia for Shane except Tua but Tua doesnt want it Camerons team are searching high and low for a suitable US opponent who a win over would earn them respect, they have one sitting right in front of their eyes but refuse to see or acknowledge it in Chauncy!
I like Shane, he's a kiwi and like all other kiwis i hope he does well. But business is business and outside of Tua VS Cameron the only other fight that makes sense to the NZ public is Cameron VS Welliver.
It would be a great fight and hopefully it will come off, I think Chauncy has a great chance of winning but would need to be on careful the entire fight as Cameron has genuine power.
Have you tried to get Meehan to fight or is he retired now. I havnt heard much about him for a long time.
I have called on just about every good heavy from the AsPac region, as I want to have a true great fight in my adopted homeland of NZ. I love NZ, and I want to have a very meaningful fight there.
My hitlist is
1.Shane Cameron 2.Kali Meehan 3.Colin Wilson 4. Roger Izon 5. Big Bob Mirovic
Obviously not the best in the World, but definantly the best of that part of the World.
I was scheduled to fight Big Bob before, but he backed out to take a bigger, higher paying fight in Germany. Don't blame him, but yes, he fights everybodyand I would be honored to fight himben k wrote:Im sure Mirovic would fight you, He has had some good fights over the years and although getting on he is still a decent opponent.Chauncy wrote:We actually had Meehan signed to fight this past December, but he had to not figh tas he was highly being considered to fight Valuev for the title.ben k wrote: I totally agree, Cameron is in a position were he dosn't have many chioces.
It would be a great fight and hopefully it will come off, I think Chauncy has a great chance of winning but would need to be on careful the entire fight as Cameron has genuine power.
Have you tried to get Meehan to fight or is he retired now. I havnt heard much about him for a long time.
I have called on just about every good heavy from the AsPac region, as I want to have a true great fight in my adopted homeland of NZ. I love NZ, and I want to have a very meaningful fight there.
My hitlist is
1.Shane Cameron 2.Kali Meehan 3.Colin Wilson 4. Roger Izon 5. Big Bob Mirovic
Obviously not the best in the World, but definantly the best of that part of the World.