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chris s · Post by **chris s** » 05 May 2007, 05:37

Don't post on here a lot but read all the time because there are so many knowledgeable posters, but what on earth has this got to do with boxers and boxing. It is all about brownie point scoring.

You're all creating a monsters whether you're praising or criticising. When monsters are grown they can't be controlled.

It is bringing in traffic, but surely it is time for the mods to lock this "he hit me first, but she bit before" thread.

Khaosai-Galaxy · Post by **Khaosai-Galaxy** » 05 May 2007, 06:16

I think we have all become a little bit too attached to out boxing forum alter ego's and littler world we have created .

However i can only speak for myself in saying i enjoy the banter and inside cracks immensely.

And why fornicating not?

Theres nowt on't telly these days

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 05 May 2007, 06:37

Now that is fkking true.

rhino222 · Post by **rhino222** » 05 May 2007, 06:40

Bare Knuckles wrote:Rhino,

You rant on about Spud posting about you being the initial catalyst for the dispute. However, if you recall, Spud did not mention anyone’s name in that initial posting. All I can say is if the cap fits!

How boring life must be for you to instantaneously know it all without being directly involved and in receipt of all the facts to enable you to make an informed decision and posts that are actually relevant to the real issue behind the dispute and where the blame ACTUALLY lies.

I know Spud and Ben, (Ben more-so) and the exact circumstances of events and IMO you are allowing history to distort your current opinion.

I am sure in time, you will be privy to the information that will exonerate both Ben and Spud and change you personal opinion on a few individuals and in turn make you look foolish for all the posts you have put about Ben and Spud. You have been exceptionally critical of Spud and his behaviour, yet your behaviour is no different!

Ben and Spud worked hard to get the forum and the site off the ground. You openly criticise them now, yet you were happy to become part of the forum. Talk about double standards.

In the meantime, have you looked up the definition of Rhino:

Greek root meaning "nose" - something you appear to have in everything - even when it does not really concern you.

Rhinoceros: massive powerful herbivorous odd-toed ungulate of southeast Asia and Africa having very thick skin and one or two horns on the snout - good job you have thick skin isn’t it!

The Rhino is a comic book supervillain in the Marvel Comics universe, and an enemy of Spider-Man. Physically, he is one of Spider-Man's strongest foes with his favoured attack being ramming into a target with a sustained charge. He is also not very bright, and thus not too difficult for the wall-crawler to best.

Have you seriously thought about changing your user name?

ha ha..yes i thought about changing it to 'ringside rhino' to be honest.

as for the first post, of course it did not mention my name, but it was aimed at me, otherwise there would not have been anger aimed from woollatt to james russell and carey to frank maloney before that initial post went up.

then the following posts from one of the chuckle brothers 'told' me where i was sat at the fight, then incinuated my son was sat at the same ringside location, then told me i had been inner ringside again, then incinuated i was there under false pretence, then called me a liar, then said there son worked his bollocks off at the moore fight and had a shit view. (which incinuated frank maloney uses child labour for free when it became apparant that the 15 year old was paid £40 for his efforts, quite a substantial sum i suggest)

that £40 is exactly the sum my son paid to enter the wembley bill (not that i have a problem with that, as he was a spectator).

so some persons were not being exactly truthful were they.

the bottom line is that if the clowns had kept their noses out of my business, and concentrated on sorting out their personal issues with frank maloney in a professional manner (because after all, we were told UKBP is (oops...was !!) a professional outfit. then i would have had no input and neither would anyone else cos the incident would have not even been aired in public.

ask yourself why the posts got deleted?

i am actually sad that UKBP has gone as an article site because the articles were good, im not sad it has gone as a forum because it was always destined to join riddick bowes belt.

how many times had i read over the last month ...'if you dont like the way the forum is run etc' .... and ....' i am one step away from shutting this forum down' ... all the usual bollocks and all a bit tedious.

UKBP will probably appear again somewhere on line for sure.....but not ringside at a frankmaloney promotions bill !!

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 05 May 2007, 06:45

Hey up Rhino. Did you get my message?

rhino222 · Post by **rhino222** » 05 May 2007, 06:58

Bare Knuckles wrote:Hey,

Firstly I think I need to re-introduce myself properly and I sincerely apologise if I have mislead anyone into believing I was anyone else.

My name is Ann-Marie. I am engaged to be married on 9th August 2008 to Ben Carey. We have three beautiful children, with our latest addition of our beautiful son William.

I do not know a great deal about boxing, but I know that Ben was honest and sincere and believed in his site and his princilples. However, whatever water has passed under the bridge, from my perspective, I have seen the hours that Ben has put in (and myself whilst on maternity leave) to the ensure site's success.

Rhino, I do not know the history behind yourself and Ben, but I am deeply disappointed at the comments you have made and think it is sometimes best practice to keep your opinionis concealed until you are armed with all the facts. (Information I hope Ben will provide you with, as I feel you have been caught in the crossfire and are maybe also owed some type of explanation!).

With regard to Spud, he has always been very complimetary and courteous towards me and a true friend to Ben - a commodity which is hard to find these days. I believe Spuds heart is in the right place despite clearly upsetting a few people, he has a true passion for the sport and is a man of his own principles and you always know exactly where you stand with him, unlike some other people I have had the displeasure to acquaint. Dont ever change Spudly!

Having worked behind the scenes with Ben previously at events (with the biggest to date being the Hatton v Maussa) at Sheffield, I have experienced irate press people who think they are more important than the next guy and worthy of a better seat. A particular person who I recall very vividley was Steve Bunce, who was extremely rude to me on this occasion, yet since our initial meeting has taken the time to email Ben directly and praise him on UKBP.

To support Ben, I embarked on a photography course to become a dedicated photographer for UKBP. On 13th April, I got my first break as a photographer with UKBP at the Jamie Moore show - promoted by Frank Maloney. When I entered the ringside, the photographers already in place were exrtemely protective of their places and unwilling to move up to allow me in to fulfil the role in which I had been approved. I came away without any credible shots and a wasted evening.

Back to the true issue at hand, Suzanne Nield. Due to the risk of legal action, Ben was restrained from publishing Suzannes article which was quite slanderous and critcal of Frank Maloney, James Russell and the whole event at Wembley.

Therefore, Ben has been unable to publicise his account of events. However, Frank does not control the seperate issue of personal e-mails that Ben received from Suzanne. One in particular was extremely unappropriate:

Suzanne Nield sent Ben an e-mail on 25th April 2007:

Hi Ben
That's terrific to hear, thanks for sorting that out
Boss.

I couldn't help but notice a discussion on the UKBP
forum about my name being a pseudonym???
Do people really think that? I've never written for
another website.

I was going to say that although I can't publish the
Eddie LLoyd article I'd be happy to send people copies
as some seem interested. I'll set up a separate e-mail
account to publish on the website if you like as I
don't want a load of spam. I'd also be happy for
boxers to contact me if they'd like a bit of press or
be interviewed. Do you think that might be an idea?

By the way Ben why don't you start using my personal
(private) e-mail *********@hotmail.co.uk

I'm working on Oscar's first belt tonight.
Suze

PS this is me Boss, snapped a week ago, I'm not Terry
Dooley in disguise, and are you on myspace by any
chance?

Obviously I can not divulge her address or photo as this is strictly personal information, however, it is clear from this e-mail it shows a very ambitious indiviual by whatever means necessary.

Since Ben sacked Suzanne from UKBP (Ben provided James Russell's e-mail address) her betrayal after seeing the email published on his own forum, I have contacted Ms Nield directly on this matter - who has declined to comment - for a change! A shame she did not learn the value of silence until the demise of UKBP!

I truley believe that her contribution to UKBP would have been sadly missed, however, her constant demanding of Ben's time through texts, emails or phone calls certainly will not. She was a huge infringement of our personal family time. In Suzanne Nields life, there is no-one more important than the pre-madonna herself. I certainly do not approve of her hitting on Ben, but acknowledge her capabilities as a writer - but as the saying goes - you dont shit on your own doorstep!

I now see she has jumped into Frank's camp. All I can say is I am delighted she has become some-one elses problem. Good luck with her Frank. You will come to appreciate that despite her fantastic input, the effort and demands from her to be constantly at her beck and call will far outway the bensfits - until she stabs you in the back too of course!

Despite what I have revealed above, Suzanne has shown her own character and clear desperation to get on. For a self proclaimed professional woman, how can she work for an organisation who have betrayed her and exposed her for the individual she is?

As for the other journalists who contributed to the site, I empathise with them completely. I agree that they should have had the opportunity to recover their work, steps which Ben is in the process of trying the retrieve. In hindsight he now appreciates that you guys may have wanted access to some of your work!

People can say of Ben and I what you wish, but I have tolerated endless loss of time due to Ben committing his time to the site, dealing with the journalists, with Suzanne in particular. Initially, I was very sceptical of the site, but became involved when it started to really take off and up to the date of pulling the site had received almost 2,000 individual visitors on a daily basis.

Ben is obviously very upset at the level of betrayal he has expreienced, but should Ben decide to ever reanimate UKBP I love him, trust him and would back him 200% as I always have done.

I know that Ben is both suprised and touched by the support he has received thus far, both publicly and privately. At the end of the day each and every one of you who read this thread will judge and establish their own opinion, that is the whole purpose of a forum, however, I am priviledged to know and share my life with such a wonderful man.

With kindest regards
Ann-Marie

(long live boxing, as long as the promoters allow anyhow!)

hello anne marie

i do sympathise with your predicament, i do know ben is a gifted writer. but i also know ben has held a grudge against me for a long while (because i did what you have just done, i published a personal ranting email from him to me on a boxing forum) i hope he is a bit more accepting of you committing the same 'crime'. i thought my bad feeling with ben was over as i sent him a congratulatory text when his/your child was born. obviously was then miffed with his attitude to me via frank maloney.

ive also known spud a lot longer than either yourself or ben, there is bad history between myself and spud (for reasons i wont go into now) but if you want to praise mr woollatt too much it may pay for you to know ALL of the history. i do not doubt his passion, but i do bring his integrity into question. i speak on behalf of many people with that statement.

ask ben why he told frank maloney it was a bad move to let me into the show?

ask spud why he lied about his son getting paid to work at a show to make it look like when his lad gets in free he works for it?

ask spud why, despite my insistance to the contrary, that he kept telling me where i was positioned at the haye show?

i have no particular interest in the suzanne nield and the 'did she didnt' she issues.

all i have been doing is protecting my own interests and my good word, i offered the chance for UKBP to apologise to me for the accusatory crap that was on the forum, it was not forthcoming, so i have not let go of the bone.

if ben would give me a call, he has my number, then perhaps we can put the side issue (me being involved) to bed.

regards

ringside rhino

rhino222 · Post by **rhino222** » 05 May 2007, 07:00

DavidPayne wrote:Hey up Rhino. Did you get my message?

which message david?

thepocketrocket · Post by **thepocketrocket** » 05 May 2007, 07:04

Hey Rhino, I always thought you and Spud were mates, you got on well at haye-Thompson?? Things really must have gone downhill in my absence...either that or your all good at keeping up appearences

emma · Post by **emma** » 05 May 2007, 07:06

I dont know which topic is funnier this one or the (former) one at UKBP.

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 05 May 2007, 07:06

Email.

rhino222 · Post by **rhino222** » 05 May 2007, 07:12

DavidPayne wrote:Email.

got it mate thank you. good result i hope.

rhino222 · Post by **rhino222** » 05 May 2007, 07:13

thepocketrocket wrote:Hey Rhino, I always thought you and Spud were mates, you got on well at haye-Thompson?? Things really must have gone downhill in my absence...either that or your all good at keeping up appearences

i think we need to have a chat young man

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 05 May 2007, 07:19

rhino222 wrote:
DavidPayne wrote:Email.
got it mate thank you. good result i hope.

Could be.

Claire Raynor · Post by **Claire Raynor** » 05 May 2007, 10:10

What on earth has happened here? You people were such good friends and it has all turned messy. Very sad.

I have been asked to come in and attempt to put out a few fires. It has been brought to my attention that the sport of boxing needs you people (perhaps even more than the pugilists who actually take part in the pursuit). If this is the case, I will make every effort to try and cool you all down and get back to your true business of high quality sport's journalism.

What you are already doing is good. If all injured parties have a good blow out and get everything off their chests we can start anew with clean slates all round.

We have heard from some, but we still need statements from Mr Maloney, Mr Collins, Miss Nield, Mr Carey and Mr Willet. The sooner you come out and speak out on this forum, the sooner this whole event can be put to bed.

Oh yes. Very quickly, Anne-Marie, does your husband-to-be know you have taken up the fight for him? You need to be careful you don't dent his male pride by trying to be the dominant half of the couple. I am sure he can speak for himself and will in time.

Claire xx

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 05 May 2007, 10:12

I see after all the kaffuful, UKBP is back up, sans forum.

Claire Raynor · Post by **Claire Raynor** » 05 May 2007, 10:16

Glad to see I had such a rapid impact. Don't let anybody try and convince you there is no place in the world for Agony Aunts.

Thanks

Claire xx

boxingtalking · Post by **boxingtalking** » 05 May 2007, 12:38

Be away so please tell me, what all the fuss is about and who are ukbp. What has are little frankie be upto now?

rhino222 · Post by **rhino222** » 05 May 2007, 13:33

ukboxingpress are the legendary pair of internet social handgrenades

messers lightsoot and spud

rhino222 · Post by **rhino222** » 05 May 2007, 13:36

DavidPayne wrote:I see after all the kaffuful, UKBP is back up, sans forum.

slightly predictable but good news never the less. just as i was about to issue my 'bring back UKBP petition'

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 05 May 2007, 13:50

DavidPayne wrote:I see after all the kaffuful, UKBP is back up, sans forum.

There is no such thing as bad publicity!

Fair play Ben

rhino222 · Post by **rhino222** » 05 May 2007, 14:06

you are right there terry, any press is good press, and todays news is tomorrows fish and chip paper.

i did notice that their is no mr spud anymore on the writers profile page, but suzanne nields profile remains, how bizarre.

has ben administered the 'spanish archer' ('El Bow' to those lacking in the neurone department) to our piper maris comrade.

ArtOfWar · Post by **ArtOfWar** » 05 May 2007, 15:27

rhino222 wrote:ringside rhino

rhino222 · Post by **rhino222** » 05 May 2007, 15:45

ArtOfWar wrote:
rhino222 wrote:ringside rhino

thought and hoped that little gem would be much admired

boxingtalking · Post by **boxingtalking** » 05 May 2007, 15:51

o yes i know who spud is,he was hanging about and claimed tobe frank ms driver when i was working with frank at panixs. A real pain in the butt all ways listening to my and franks chats, had to tell him to f__k off a few times. Are you telling me this fool runs a web site please he could not drive one time he nearly kill frank and me. Just lookked at the web site nothing to write home about. Please spare us from more internet geniuses and boxing geniuses who have never been to a show other than watched it on their tv set.

rhino222 · Post by **rhino222** » 05 May 2007, 16:24

to make light of things ive started off a song in memory of UKBP forum and site... please sing along to the tune of 'pato bantons' ...'come back'

and it goes like this, see if anyone else can add a verse..............

i thought you all were clowns to be messing around

come back

oh no give it one more try, cos a forum like this must a never ever die

come back

oh no, ill miss you 3, suzanne and ben and the great spudly

come back..............