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jamesmcdonnell
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SticknMove
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Yeah, I thought that Juarez was going through the motions. He wasn't heeding the good advice of his corner round after round: to let the combinations go and stop trying to KO his opponent with single shots. Instead he reverted back to single jabs and looking for the big right hand.jamesmcdonnell wrote:Thought the Juarez bout was pretty poor myself, Rocky looked like he could have finished that fight any time he chose, but instead chose to coast for large periods of the fight. Great technician Juarez, but seems to lack the fire in his belly.
The Medina - Bautista fight was very good. Medina was tough as old boots. I like the look of Bautista, he is a very sharp solid puncher with good variety and a nice style. Not the finished article yet, but at 20 years old I can him being in some great fights.
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jamesmcdonnell
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]SticknMove wrote:Yeah, I thought that Juarez was going through the motions. He wasn't heeding the good advice of his corner round after round: to let the combinations go and stop trying to KO his opponent with single shots. Instead he reverted back to single jabs and looking for the big right hand.jamesmcdonnell wrote:Thought the Juarez bout was pretty poor myself, Rocky looked like he could have finished that fight any time he chose, but instead chose to coast for large periods of the fight. Great technician Juarez, but seems to lack the fire in his belly.
The Medina - Bautista fight was very good. Medina was tough as old boots. I like the look of Bautista, he is a very sharp solid puncher with good variety and a nice style. Not the finished article yet, but at 20 years old I can him being in some great fights.
Bautista looked good, but some way short of a world title shot, he also looked like his punch power was overrated, he wasn't really able to budge his opponent, and in the latter half of the fight was getting tagged an awful lot.
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SticknMove
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I thought it was a very good learning fight for him. He is obviously used to getting his own way in fights and why he expended too much in trying to get Medina out of there in the first half of the fight. He obviously flagged a bit in the second half and got caught, which was due to a lack of head movement and an instinct to stand and trade, when using better all round boxing skills would have served him better.jamesmcdonnell wrote:]SticknMove wrote:Yeah, I thought that Juarez was going through the motions. He wasn't heeding the good advice of his corner round after round: to let the combinations go and stop trying to KO his opponent with single shots. Instead he reverted back to single jabs and looking for the big right hand.jamesmcdonnell wrote:Thought the Juarez bout was pretty poor myself, Rocky looked like he could have finished that fight any time he chose, but instead chose to coast for large periods of the fight. Great technician Juarez, but seems to lack the fire in his belly.
The Medina - Bautista fight was very good. Medina was tough as old boots. I like the look of Bautista, he is a very sharp solid puncher with good variety and a nice style. Not the finished article yet, but at 20 years old I can him being in some great fights.
Bautista looked good, but some way short of a world title shot, he also looked like his punch power was overrated, he wasn't really able to budge his opponent, and in the latter half of the fight was getting tagged an awful lot.
But he's definately one to watch. Ready for a title tilt? Maybe, depending on who he's matched with, but as I say he's not the finished article yet.
That's very harsh on Juarez's opponent. That guy's fighting spirit had an awful lot to do with him making it across the finishing line. Seems dismissive of his effort simply by pointing out Rocky's failure to put him away.
Juarez tends to work at a steady pace, but when he does let them go they're pretty impressive. We still saw some good action throughout the 12 rounds and the knockdown in the 4th....that was some shot. Credit Rocky with scoring it and his opponent to come back from it.
Juarez tends to work at a steady pace, but when he does let them go they're pretty impressive. We still saw some good action throughout the 12 rounds and the knockdown in the 4th....that was some shot. Credit Rocky with scoring it and his opponent to come back from it.
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Phenomenal-Nutrition
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MAYWEATHER LANDED 85 MORE PUNCHES - THATS ABOUT 180% OF WHAT OSCAR LANDED
COMPUBOX POST-FIGHT ANALYSIS
by Bob Canobbio
The World Awaited...and the world received a better fight than many expected.
No, it wasn't Hagler-Hearns or Gatti-Ward I, but it wasn't the technical chess match that many feared it could have been either.
The fight was competitive because for the most part, De La Hoya carried the action. As expected, Oscar was the busier fighter. He threw more total punches than Floyd in eighth of the twelve rounds, with one round even. He threw 587 total punches, landing 122 (21%) to 207 of 481 (43%) for the pot shotting Mayweather. Floyd landed 57% of his power shots (non-jabs), landing 138 of 241 to 82 of 341 (24%) for Oscar. That's the same percentage of power shots Shane Mosley landed vs. Oscar in their first fight.
Many of Floyd's power shots landed flush, while the majority of Oscar's glanced off the elusive Mayweather's head and body. Even though he was landing just one of every five punches he attempted, Oscar was bringing the fight to Floyd. The fans cheered his every flurry, and judge Tom Kaczmarek (115-113) gave him the fight. Chuck Giampa had it 116-112 Floyd, while Jerry Roth scored it 115-113 Floyd. Had Roth given Oscar the last round, the fight's a draw and Oscar retains his title. In that last round, Oscar threw a fight-high 82 total punches, landing just 12 (15%), while Floyd went 25 of 54 (46%).
The fight was Oscar's to lose after nine rounds. He led 86-85 on two cards. Floyd led 87-84 on the third card.
What went wrong? Oscar didn't fade in terms of punch output, but lost the ability to throw an effective jab. He couldn't plant his feet to get any mustard on his punches, especially the jab. He averaged 19 jabs thrown and five landed (26%) over the first seven rounds, then landed an average of just 4 of 30 jabs (13%) in rounds eight thru twelve. The jab became more of a range finder than a scoring tool. In fact, over the last three rounds, Oscar landed just 4 of 77 jabs (5%). Roth gave Floyd the last three rounds, while Giampa gave 10 & 11 to Floyd. As a result, Mayweather landed 17 (of 25) power shots in round eleven and 18 (of 36) in round twelve, his highest number of power shots landed other than round five, when he landed 21 (of 37).
Did somebody say rematch? Oscar's fans certainly thought he won (as did Kaczmarek). Many respected ringsiders scored it a draw, so why not? The decision's in Oscar's hands. Can he get himself motivated one more time? He's at least $30 million richer. That moola buys lots of silk pajamas, and we all know what Marvin Hagler said later in his career about wearing silk pj's. (see the CompuBox analysis if you don't). Oscar's got a tough decision to make. He's never walked away from the "Big Fight", but he has to ask himself what can he do differently the second time around. Mayweather fought as well as he could and would fight the same fight again, that's all he knows. The ball's in Oscar's court...the world again awaits.
http://www.hbo.com/boxing/events/2007/0 ... _post.html
COMPUBOX POST-FIGHT ANALYSIS
by Bob Canobbio
The World Awaited...and the world received a better fight than many expected.
No, it wasn't Hagler-Hearns or Gatti-Ward I, but it wasn't the technical chess match that many feared it could have been either.
The fight was competitive because for the most part, De La Hoya carried the action. As expected, Oscar was the busier fighter. He threw more total punches than Floyd in eighth of the twelve rounds, with one round even. He threw 587 total punches, landing 122 (21%) to 207 of 481 (43%) for the pot shotting Mayweather. Floyd landed 57% of his power shots (non-jabs), landing 138 of 241 to 82 of 341 (24%) for Oscar. That's the same percentage of power shots Shane Mosley landed vs. Oscar in their first fight.
Many of Floyd's power shots landed flush, while the majority of Oscar's glanced off the elusive Mayweather's head and body. Even though he was landing just one of every five punches he attempted, Oscar was bringing the fight to Floyd. The fans cheered his every flurry, and judge Tom Kaczmarek (115-113) gave him the fight. Chuck Giampa had it 116-112 Floyd, while Jerry Roth scored it 115-113 Floyd. Had Roth given Oscar the last round, the fight's a draw and Oscar retains his title. In that last round, Oscar threw a fight-high 82 total punches, landing just 12 (15%), while Floyd went 25 of 54 (46%).
The fight was Oscar's to lose after nine rounds. He led 86-85 on two cards. Floyd led 87-84 on the third card.
What went wrong? Oscar didn't fade in terms of punch output, but lost the ability to throw an effective jab. He couldn't plant his feet to get any mustard on his punches, especially the jab. He averaged 19 jabs thrown and five landed (26%) over the first seven rounds, then landed an average of just 4 of 30 jabs (13%) in rounds eight thru twelve. The jab became more of a range finder than a scoring tool. In fact, over the last three rounds, Oscar landed just 4 of 77 jabs (5%). Roth gave Floyd the last three rounds, while Giampa gave 10 & 11 to Floyd. As a result, Mayweather landed 17 (of 25) power shots in round eleven and 18 (of 36) in round twelve, his highest number of power shots landed other than round five, when he landed 21 (of 37).
Did somebody say rematch? Oscar's fans certainly thought he won (as did Kaczmarek). Many respected ringsiders scored it a draw, so why not? The decision's in Oscar's hands. Can he get himself motivated one more time? He's at least $30 million richer. That moola buys lots of silk pajamas, and we all know what Marvin Hagler said later in his career about wearing silk pj's. (see the CompuBox analysis if you don't). Oscar's got a tough decision to make. He's never walked away from the "Big Fight", but he has to ask himself what can he do differently the second time around. Mayweather fought as well as he could and would fight the same fight again, that's all he knows. The ball's in Oscar's court...the world again awaits.
http://www.hbo.com/boxing/events/2007/0 ... _post.html
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SticknMove
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Fair dues Butch. Hernandez deserves some credit and did play some part in Juarez' somewhat lacklustre performence.THEBUTCH wrote:That's very harsh on Juarez's opponent. That guy's fighting spirit had an awful lot to do with him making it across the finishing line. Seems dismissive of his effort simply by pointing out Rocky's failure to put him away.
Juarez tends to work at a steady pace, but when he does let them go they're pretty impressive. We still saw some good action throughout the 12 rounds and the knockdown in the 4th....that was some shot. Credit Rocky with scoring it and his opponent to come back from it.