Getting in to America.. Criminal Records..

Goldeboi7 · Post by **Goldeboi7** » 08 May 2007, 13:20

What is this rule exactly?
I plan on going to the Hatton fight, but a couple of years back i got a minor caution, will i have trouble getting in to Vegas?

Hagler2002 · Post by **Hagler2002** » 08 May 2007, 13:22

Yes if you were arrested, I can't get in with a minor assault charge and I also know of someone who could not get in with a drink driving offense.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 08 May 2007, 13:25

Only if you mention it on the green form you have to fill in on the plane, which I strongly advice you not to do.

I think it's only an issue of you have been arrested for possession of a controlled substance and cautioned. If you have, just keep schtumm, they aren't going to have that information to hand in all liklihood, but if you mentioned you have been arrested and cautioned for possession of a controlled substance, I can assure you, you will be on the very next flight home, and banned from entering the country for several years.

I almost made the same mistake myself, and had ticked the box on the form saying 'yes' to having been arrested for possession of restricted substances (hash at university), and at the last minute had a change of heart, ripped up for form, and got another one.

My mate who I was staying with in the states, told me that had I filled in the form as I did originally, I would have been flying straight back home.

ABA Boxing · Post by **ABA Boxing** » 08 May 2007, 13:29

Hagler2002 wrote:I also know of someone who could not get in with a drink driving offense.

So if Khan gets a ban. No Vegas fights for him! LOL

Hagler2002 · Post by **Hagler2002** » 08 May 2007, 13:32

jamesmcdonnell wrote: just keep schtumm, they aren't going to have that information to hand in all liklihood, but if you mentioned you have been arrested and cautioned for possession of a controlled substance, I can assure you, you will be on the very next flight home, and banned from entering the country for several years.

So what do they do if they find out you told them pork pies? do you get the chair?

m1kee50 · Post by **m1kee50** » 08 May 2007, 13:50

they got the old 'are you a member of a terrorist group' on the form aint they? yeah cos im so going to admit to that for you? stupid septics

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 08 May 2007, 13:55

Yes indeed, it's such a ridiculous form.

They also had one about offences of 'moral turpitude' now I'm and English lit graduate and part time writer, and even I didn't know what the fekk turpitude was, so what chance does the average joe have?

SticknMove · Post by **SticknMove** » 08 May 2007, 14:03

Are you a terrorist? Yes/No

Have you suffered from mental illness? Yes/No

I sense a common theme here. Perhaps they should follow each of these questions with;

Are you a liar? Yes/No

Now that would really test their powers of lateral/circular thinking.
8)

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 08 May 2007, 14:12

Is your passport linked to your National Insurance number? If so would that make all yoru criminal records accessable as you go through there customs?

Hagler2002 · Post by **Hagler2002** » 08 May 2007, 14:24

The new passports come with an electronic chip on them which holds god knows what, my guess is it will have any convictions on there.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 08 May 2007, 14:33

i sure am they dont let people who live just outside of Newcastle who spend 90% of their income in the pub in

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 08 May 2007, 15:02

After the recent shooting at the university, the BBC interviewed the shop owner who sold the guy the guns, when asked if he knew the guy had a history of mental illness , the shopowner said he didn't as the guy had ticked the 'no mental illness box' on the form.

now thats madness

Hagler2002 · Post by **Hagler2002** » 08 May 2007, 15:06

REAL_DEAL wrote:i sure am they dont let people who live just outside of Newcastle who spend 90% of their income in the pub in

90% is not a lot!!! most people from here spend around the 98% mark

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 08 May 2007, 15:07

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 08 May 2007, 16:37

SticknMove wrote:Are you a terrorist? Yes/No

Have you suffered from mental illness? Yes/No

I sense a common theme here. Perhaps they should follow each of these questions with;

Are you a liar? Yes/No

Now that would really test their powers of lateral/circular thinking.
8)

I know. The old Tom Hanks arent blessed with much intelligence are they.

Just bullshit, you will have no worries.

On the other hand if you are British , of Pakistani origin, with a full beard, you have got more chance of getting a wank off the pope than getting into America.

Boxingnut · Post by **Boxingnut** » 09 May 2007, 05:58

[quote="jamesmcdonnell"]Yes indeed, it's such a ridiculous form.

They also had one about offences of 'moral turpitude' now I'm and English lit graduate and part time writer, and even I didn't know what the fekk turpitude was. Yes indeed, it's such a ridiculous form.

I thought you cleaned paint brushes with it!!

jake lamotta · Post by **jake lamotta** » 09 May 2007, 06:36

Just tick no to everything on that green sheet. Don't matter if its true or false. I've got a crim record as has my Dad, fair enough it was something that happened years ago in less mature years but those people at the gate wont see it like that and will send you straight bak.

Shirow · Post by **Shirow** » 09 May 2007, 08:38

"Have you ever been involved in Nazi persecutions or genocide?"

Tick that one and goosestep up to the counter. Let us know the result.

I understand that the fingerprint check that they do now is on an international database. If you've ever been fingerprinted by the police they will see why on their screen so you don't need to have been convicted of anything, arrest is enough.

If this is the case you'll need to apply for a visa in advance & you'll have to go for an interview too. Details here http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_new/vi ... crime.html or call 09042 450100

Oh and when you're ready to book you could do much worse than go here...

http://www.cityboxertravel.com

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 09 May 2007, 10:16

Serious, pre apply for a visa to get into america because of a couple of cautions? jees.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 09 May 2007, 11:03

I like the apparently true story of the guy who replied to the green form question: Do you intend to overthrow the US Government?

Answer: Yes, sole purpose of visit.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 09 May 2007, 11:36

MightyWarrior wrote:I like the apparently true story of the guy who replied to the green form question: Do you intend to overthrow the US Government?

Answer: Yes, sole purpose of visit.

What happened to him?

Was it George Gallaway?

Goldeboi7 · Post by **Goldeboi7** » 09 May 2007, 19:41

yeah.. they took my prints, they marked it down as 'carrying a dangreous weapon'.
It didn't go to court, and they let me out on the day they brought me in, but from what someone said this will come up on their computers, so i may be in trouble.

TheRock · Post by **TheRock** » 09 May 2007, 20:39

ABA Boxing wrote:
Hagler2002 wrote:I also know of someone who could not get in with a drink driving offense.
So if Khan gets a ban. No Vegas fights for him! LOL

Khan don't drink!

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 10 May 2007, 06:33

Goldeboi7 wrote:yeah.. they took my prints, they marked it down as 'carrying a dangreous weapon'.
It didn't go to court, and they let me out on the day they brought me in, but from what someone said this will come up on their computers, so i may be in trouble.

Why not call the US Embassy, don't give yoru details, tell them your situation and ask if it is a problem, say it was a wrongful arrest (could it fall into that category if they didnt charge you?)

Dirk Kelly · Post by **Dirk Kelly** » 10 May 2007, 06:45

It is very dodgy, a mate went over to New York and got collored due to his finger prints and deported. The reason because on a trip back from spain he brought in too many fags and was collored. The Yanks had him down as an Arsonist!

He's had to go to the police, get a check done, get reasons for his caution and then present it to the American Embassy. he's awaiting their decision.

At least his wife and kids at a great holiday!