MUST READ!!! Stop this Mundine massacre...

Marlin · Post by **Marlin** » 12 May 2007, 00:29

Marco Monteverde wrote:THE Australian Medical Association wants next month's Anthony Mundine world title fight called off because his opponent is so obviously outclassed.

Despite never having fought more than six rounds, Argentine Pablo Zamora Nievas will challenge the explosive and accomplished Mundine for his World Boxing Association super-middleweight title at the Gold Coast Convention Centre on June 27.

And Australia's leading medical body fears the visitor will get seriously hurt.

AMA spokesman Shaun Rudd said boxing was brutal enough without having to watch an outclassed boxer be "bashed up" for a pay cheque.

"Boxing's extremely dangerous, but in these situations it becomes even more dangerous," Rudd said.

"You get somebody who's willing to be bashed up by somebody who can bash them up and you pay them money for that."

Rudd said the biggest danger was that a referee could allow Nievas to take punishment even when he was obviously hurt.

"The referee doesn't tend to stop the fight but lets it go on so we can see a bit more blood and see if we can really hurt him a bit and get everybody excited, which is very sad," he said.

"You see in these sort of bouts why boxing should be banned."

Australia's most powerful boxing official, IBF vice-president Ray Wheatley, was scathing of Mundine's choice of opponent.

"This is a total mismatch," Wheatley said, "and there is a real chance this kid from Argentina could get badly hurt. It beggars belief that the WBA could sanction this.

"Unfair contests like this give boxing a bad name."

From the Daily Telegraph.

thunderfromdownunder · Post by **thunderfromdownunder** » 12 May 2007, 04:00

so much for fighting the best ey mundine.
you wanker

R_jay · Post by **R_jay** » 12 May 2007, 22:40

F*ck the AMA. Where were they when Jef Fenech's "Beat up Philippino" Fight Nights were going on? They're just grandstanding to push their own agenda. I would'nt expect anything better from them.

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 13 May 2007, 10:44

Dreadful stuff. Up there with Valero-Lozada and Maccirinelli-Gunn for me. Will Nievas make it out of the first to save the blushes of those involved? That's about as interesting as calling this fight gets.

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 14 May 2007, 05:46

THE Australian Medical Association wants next month's Anthony Mundine world title fight called off because his opponent is so obviously outclassed.

So where is the AMA for, what, 90% of Aussie fights?

Marlin · Post by **Marlin** » 14 May 2007, 07:43

oliverfennell wrote:
THE Australian Medical Association wants next month's Anthony Mundine world title fight called off because his opponent is so obviously outclassed.
So where is the AMA for, what, 90% of Aussie fights?

Come on mate, there's mismatches and then there's mismatches! This bloke has never gone more than six rounds and he's in a "Title" fight...

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 14 May 2007, 08:01

You're right, it is a bad match, nobody can dispute that, but the AMA only gets involved when it's a high-profile fight and name. Just about every fight on Australian soil features an Aussie bombing out a hopelessly outclassed Thai, Filipino or Pacific islander. Are they any less at risk than Nievas?

Sweet P · Post by **Sweet P** » 14 May 2007, 21:26

oliverfennell wrote:You're right, it is a bad match, nobody can dispute that, but the AMA only gets involved when it's a high-profile fight and name. Just about every fight on Australian soil features an Aussie bombing out a hopelessly outclassed Thai, Filipino or Pacific islander. Are they any less at risk than Nievas?

This fight is disgraceful, The guy hasn't gone 6 rounds and is fighting for a title.

I agree with you Olliver,
The AMA should be clamping down on all mismatches, A lot of these fighters are 2-3 weights lower than there Aussie opponnets.
Surely it wouldn't cost anymore to get a featherweight instead of a bantamweight.
Its no wonder a lot of our fighters go overseas after fighting these guys and get KOd or beaten soundly.

woe31 · Post by **woe31** » 14 May 2007, 21:29

I'm with Oliver on this one, how is a fight like this worse than the prospect vs Thai cabbie fights we're usually "treated" to. Seems like a chance for people to pick on Mundine when there's far worse going on in Oz boxing.

Also, I doubt they'll get better than Nievas out for an undercard fight so I'll be awaiting the AMA's response to Soliman's opponent on the same card.

R_jay · Post by **R_jay** » 14 May 2007, 21:35

What does the fact he's never gone more than 6 rounds have to do with anything? I have no idea why people keep bringing this up. So what? He was scheduled to fight 10 on a few occasions but KO'd the guy before then. So you're punishing a guy for doing what he's supposed to do and scoring knockouts? You gus must have been really pissed when Valero got his title shot, after all he was REALLY unqualified having only gone past the 1st round once. Don't get me wrong, its a shit fight, but not because of that.

Marlin · Post by **Marlin** » 14 May 2007, 21:48

Having never gone more than 6 rounds is a clear indication of his lack of experience. He is a two year pro, whose biggest result is a draw with a bloke mundine stopped with a body shot in 4 rounds...

Of course they make a statment in a high profile fight. It wouldn't get any coverage on a lesser fight. I would love to see no more mismatches in Australia as much as anyone and I reckon it is blokes like Mundine who have the money and ability to fight equally matched world class opponents who should lead the way!!!

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 16 May 2007, 04:34

it is blokes like Mundine who have the money and ability to fight equally matched world class opponents who should lead the way!!!

That's a fair point, although a soft first defence is pretty much a time-honoured tradition. No, I'm not condoning it, but I'm sure we'll see a tougher second defence. Mundine has enjoyed his share of non-title mismatches but his title record (sans Nishizawa) is pretty sound and, like him or not, he is a proud man who will want to make a point in the second defence after the backlash over this.

But Mundine-Nievas is just the mountain top of a standard which is semingly set in stone in Australia, whether it's world title fights or four-rounders. I understand it's difficult to bring decent opposition to Aus for geographical/cost reasons, but surely there are at least some DURABLE Asians/Kiwis/islanders out there instead of the ones who come over and virtually without fail fold inside four rounds (Nonoy Gonzalez and Ranee Ganoy being happy exceptions).

Marlin · Post by **Marlin** » 16 May 2007, 05:12

I will be very interested to see who he fights in NZ...

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 16 May 2007, 07:10

If it's Sean Sullivan then I'll take back what I said!

Sweet P · Post by **Sweet P** » 16 May 2007, 07:55

Marlin wrote:I will be very interested to see who he fights in NZ...

If Mundine is negioting with Kessler i dont think the NZ fight will happen.

Marlin · Post by **Marlin** » 16 May 2007, 18:16

ben k wrote:
Marlin wrote:I will be very interested to see who he fights in NZ...
If Mundine is negioting with Kessler i dont think the NZ fight will happen.

Fair point, but I think it is still a big IF at this stage and Mundine could probably have a NZ before hand anyway... Especially if he makes it a high paying sparring/KO session like he is on the Gold Coast

Ross · Post by **Ross** » 16 May 2007, 22:45

Marlin wrote:
Marco Monteverde wrote:THE Australian Medical Association wants next month's Anthony Mundine world title fight called off because his opponent is so obviously outclassed.

Despite never having fought more than six rounds, Argentine Pablo Zamora Nievas will challenge the explosive and accomplished Mundine for his World Boxing Association super-middleweight title at the Gold Coast Convention Centre on June 27.

And Australia's leading medical body fears the visitor will get seriously hurt.

AMA spokesman Shaun Rudd said boxing was brutal enough without having to watch an outclassed boxer be "bashed up" for a pay cheque.

"Boxing's extremely dangerous, but in these situations it becomes even more dangerous," Rudd said.

"You get somebody who's willing to be bashed up by somebody who can bash them up and you pay them money for that."

Rudd said the biggest danger was that a referee could allow Nievas to take punishment even when he was obviously hurt.

"The referee doesn't tend to stop the fight but lets it go on so we can see a bit more blood and see if we can really hurt him a bit and get everybody excited, which is very sad," he said.

"You see in these sort of bouts why boxing should be banned."

Australia's most powerful boxing official, IBF vice-president Ray Wheatley, was scathing of Mundine's choice of opponent.

"This is a total mismatch," Wheatley said, "and there is a real chance this kid from Argentina could get badly hurt. It beggars belief that the WBA could sanction this.

"Unfair contests like this give boxing a bad name."
From the Daily Telegraph.

disgusting but not surprising from mundine

Marlin · Post by **Marlin** » 17 May 2007, 01:21

It is when he has fights like this that I hope to see him like this again:

Marlin · Post by **Marlin** » 17 May 2007, 01:23

ben k wrote:
Marlin wrote:I will be very interested to see who he fights in NZ...
If Mundine is negioting with Kessler i dont think the NZ fight will happen.

Do you think Kessler will bend him over in negotiations???

Sapphire · Post by **Sapphire** » 17 May 2007, 02:46

you've got to remember when Mundine fought Sven Ottke it was only his 11th fight and he was winning the fight up untill he got KO'd... I understand that Anthony was alot higher ranked than Pablo Daniel Zamora Nievas when he fought for a world title.... But Kostya Tszyu won a world title after 14 fights Jeff Fenech only had 7 fights before he got his shot. So why doesn't Pablo after having 19 fights deserve a shot. you also have to take in to consideration that a higher ranked Super middleweight would not fight Mundine on short notice beacuse it is such a Danger fight for a boxers career
(with that I mean fighting for a world title on short notice and being ranked in the top ten and losing, hypathetically would mean winning your next 4 or 5 fights to get another shot for a world title so thats like a year grinding your way back up because you weren't properly prepared the first time)
Its great that Mundine wants to stay active and we all know its a lead up fight for bigger and better things. So lets Give Pablo a go and there's always a Rocky feeling to these fights.It's still exciting!

Marlin · Post by **Marlin** » 17 May 2007, 02:55

Scott Edwards wrote:you've got to remember when Mundine fought Sven Ottke it was only his 11th fight and he was winning the fight up untill he got KO'd... I understand that Anthony was alot higher ranked than Pablo Daniel Zamora Nievas when he fought for a world title.... But Kostya Tszyu won a world title after 14 fights Jeff Fenech only had 7 fights before he got his shot. So why doesn't Pablo after having 19 fights deserve a shot. you also have to take in to consideration that a higher ranked Super middleweight would not fight Mundine on short notice beacuse it is such a Danger fight for a boxers career
(with that I mean fighting for a world title on short notice and being ranked in the top ten and losing, hypathetically would mean winning your next 4 or 5 fights to get another shot for a world title so thats like a year grinding your way back up because you weren't properly prepared the first time)
Its great that Mundine wants to stay active and we all know its a lead up fight for bigger and better things. So lets Give Pablo a go and there's always a Rocky feeling to these fights.It's still exciting!

You're joking right?

Sapphire · Post by **Sapphire** » 17 May 2007, 03:10

The fight itself is just a big joke but its better than not fighting at all

Marlin · Post by **Marlin** » 17 May 2007, 03:26

Scott Edwards wrote:The fight itself is just a big joke but its better than not fighting at all

As I mentioned somewhere before I'm sure he has tougher fights in sparring...

Sapphire · Post by **Sapphire** » 17 May 2007, 04:10

I just read the WBA ratings Pablo is now ranked #15

Marlin · Post by **Marlin** » 17 May 2007, 05:28

Scott Edwards wrote:I just read the WBA ratings Pablo is now ranked #15

He has to be or he can't have a Title shot. It is an 'adjusted' ranking. If you honestly think it is legit you have a lot to learn my friend...

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