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Reid vs Ottke

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Reid and Ottke managment are close to signing a fight between them in December my german friend was telling me, this could be a good fight or one of the most boring fights ever.

Reid takes on Vage Kocharyan who fought carl froch three weeks ago on October 24th,

Lets hope reid beats ottke :P
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Re: Reid vs Ottke

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REAL_DEAL wrote:Reid and Ottke managment are close to signing a fight between them in December my german friend was telling me, this could be a good fight or one of the most boring fights ever.

Reid takes on Vage Kocharyan who fought carl froch three weeks ago on October 24th,

Lets hope reid beats ottke :P
Ottke's about ready for the taking I reckon.
And Reid has been underrated (after some sluggish performances of late).
I'd love this one to happen.
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Post by Snatchy »

I too hope Reid gets his shot at Ottke, he's been in the wilderness for long enough and is far more deserving challenger than David Starie. However, he's not had a competitive fight since losing to Joe Calzaghe and I wonder how these WBF tomato cans will have prepared him for Ottke.

I wouldn't be suprised if Reid struggles with Vage Kocharyan. Hopefully he'll get the win to land his shot.
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Sorry lads, but I have to go for Ottke W PTS.

In a similar fashion to most of Sven's fights, closish but deserved. Everyone is saying Ottke is there for the taking, but listen to the remarks of Mitchell and Starie, both of whom aren't too sure who would win a hypothetical Ottke vs Calzaghe match.

As much as he sends me to sleep I have to respect the guys skills. Starie said he move backwards quicker then he could move forwards.

Reid will be the aggressor in this fight (something he doesn't like) and will be to slow and too one paced for Ottke. Reid is simply not that good and caught Calzaghe very underprepared, ring rusty and ill (didn't he have food poisioning!).

I thought Reid won that fight, but I think if Reid was an true elite fighter he should have won beyond doubt - cause Calzaghe was terrible that night. The only night Reid truly impressed me was against Henry Wharton.

If the tricky, unarthodox, skills of Malinga could catch out Reid (in the worst title fight ever) then I'm sure Ottke will. He's all wrong for Robin.

Sorry.
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stujones wrote:Sorry lads, but I have to go for Ottke W PTS.

In a similar fashion to most of Sven's fights, closish but deserved. Everyone is saying Ottke is there for the taking, but listen to the remarks of Mitchell and Starie, both of whom aren't too sure who would win a hypothetical Ottke vs Calzaghe match.

As much as he sends me to sleep I have to respect the guys skills. Starie said he move backwards quicker then he could move forwards.

Reid will be the aggressor in this fight (something he doesn't like) and will be to slow and too one paced for Ottke. Reid is simply not that good and caught Calzaghe very underprepared, ring rusty and ill (didn't he have food poisioning!).

I thought Reid won that fight, but I think if Reid was an true elite fighter he should have won beyond doubt - cause Calzaghe was terrible that night. The only night Reid truly impressed me was against Henry Wharton.

If the tricky, unarthodox, skills of Malinga could catch out Reid (in the worst title fight ever) then I'm sure Ottke will. He's all wrong for Robin.

Sorry.
I think this is a very good assessment.
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Post by tolstoy »

Okay, I'm gonna stick my neck out and go for Robin Reid in this one, should it come off.

I've always liked his fast, crisp punching and although I think that he's probably past his peak, so too is Ottke. I take Reid to outbusy Ottke and unlike so many of the German snoremeisters opponents, I feel Reid will have more success in landing his punches.

I'll be looking to hear more on this prospective bout so, any news guys, keep us posted. :D
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Well everyone picks Calzaghe over Ottke and Reid beat Calzaghe all apart from a dodgy decision on the cards, scoring rounds for Calzaghe when he simply wasn't doing anything. Robin can return and i feel Ottke's team will be making a major mistake picking the Reaper as an opponent, Reid can win this fight by stoppage if he connects right and applies himself to the task correctly, i feel he has the power to hurt Ottke.
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Post by Bard of Boxrec »

reid undoubtedly has the power, it's whether he can land that is the problem.

ottke's cageyness, like someone else said, is just the worst possible style for the counterpunching reid. with his tough chin, good reflexes, power and speed, robin reid's ideal opponent style is aggressors. i still don't see however how he would find it difficult to force the pace against a guy like ottke who could never hurt him.

reid gets lazy, still wins, but gets cheated by the judges in germany.
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Riddick Blowe wrote:reid gets lazy, still wins, but gets cheated by the judges in germany.
Agreed, this is a fair assessment Riddick, i see this scenario as the likely outcome, i mean if the fights in Germany were scored normally then Ottke would only have beaten Starie by 1 or maybe 2 rounds. But you have to win big out there or you will be robbed.
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Post by Twinkle Toes »

Reid hasn't exactly sparkled in the last 3 years, and those losses to Malinga, and Branco + the split decision win against Cherifi linger in my mind.

It's a great oppurtunity for Reid, but I don't think he will beat Otke.
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Post by knockout artist »

Reid could win, but would need to be in the best shape of his life and very focused and determined. He needs to be HUNGRY.

It's a great fight for him.

If he wins, I reckon he's calling the shots against Calzaghe.
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Post by Bard of Boxrec »

by the way i watched ottke/larsen on eurosport last night. i had it 117-111 larsen being careful to give close rounds to the champ.

using this method i could still only give ottke 3 rounds.

what a total disgrace.
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knockout artist wrote:Reid could win, but would need to be in the best shape of his life and very focused and determined. He needs to be HUNGRY.

It's a great fight for him.

If he wins, I reckon he's calling the shots against Calzaghe.
Yes your right but i think the Reid-Calzaghe rematch may have sailed as far as a Reid win goes anyway, i cannot see the Reid of today beating Calzaghe unfortunately. He looked stale out in Germany against a limited Uruguayan Enrique Campos and i think he may trouble motivating himself back to the form of old when he fought the likes of Vincenzo Nardiello, Henry Wharton and Giovanni Pretorius. Has anyone seen his last fight with Willard Lewis? How did the Reaper look?
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here it is bennie
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Post by bennie »

Looks like your information is spot on, Real Deal. My only concern with Barry Hearn's lot (Jess Harding among them) is they have made a habit recently of 'talking up' opponents for their fighters and then not delivering. Think of Jawaid Khaliq against Ray Oliveira and then Ener Julio (in the end, Khaliq fought a man he had already beaten in Maxim Nesterenko) and Brian Magee against Glenn Catley and Syd Vanderpool (in the end, Magee fought a crap Argie).
Let's hope, Harding ain't jiving us about Ottke, though the fact Reid's last two fights have come in Germany make me feel it has to be Sven.
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Post by REAL_DEAL »

do you think calzaghe will seat on the ottke - read result if it happens, if reid wins and there isnt a rematch calzaghe should offer that million to reid,

cant see hearns and warren agreeing anything together thou
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Post by bennie »

REAL_DEAL wrote:do you think calzaghe will seat on the ottke - read result if it happens, if reid wins and there isnt a rematch calzaghe should offer that million to reid,

cant see hearns and warren agreeing anything together thou
Reid ain't never gonna beat Ottke in Germany. Even if he does beat him, they'll find a way of making sure Sven leaves the ring with his titles intact.
As for Calzaghe: he ain't never gonna fight anyone 'big'. Warren's talk doesn't cut any ice with anyone any more.
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Post by REAL_DEAL »

:oops: :oops: :oops:

yes what was i thinking

someone give calzaghe, don kings number if he moves up
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