greatest amateur boxer in the past 70 years? (ever)?

usaboxing · Post by **usaboxing** » 16 Apr 2007, 03:37

In my opinion, is Mario Kindelan.. but if you can tell me your opinion of who you beleive is the greatest amater boxer ever. i'd appriciate it.

fenix · Post by **fenix** » 16 Apr 2007, 14:35

Wow best amateur of the last 70 years! Thats a long time. I haven't seen enough of the old amateur bouts to be able to give a true informed opinion, but I think it would probably be one of these three guys. Teofilo Stevenson, Laszlo Papp or Felix Savon. All three captured three gold medals at the Olympics and I believe are the only three boxers to accomplish that feat.

For US only I'd probably say Mark Breland, Oscar De La Hoya or Eric Griffin.

mike222 · Post by **mike222** » 18 Apr 2007, 04:04

Rigo has to be up there,he has just won his 96th fight in a row,and is seldom extended.Kindelan was a bit special too.

Roberts J · Post by **Roberts J** » 18 Apr 2007, 05:55

Teofelio Stevenson, Hands down.

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 20 Apr 2007, 07:29

If we go to merits alone it is 1. Felix Savon, 2. Teófilo Stevenson. Personally I give my vote to 1. Mario Kindelan, 2. Guillermo Rigondeaux.

ABA Boxing · Post by **ABA Boxing** » 21 Apr 2007, 05:16

Laszlo Papp

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 21 Apr 2007, 12:38

Mark Breland

jimmy the gent · Post by **jimmy the gent** » 30 Apr 2007, 19:29

Guillermo Rigondeaux Ortiz (special)

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 23 May 2007, 08:39

best american - mark breland
best brit - terry waller
best world - laszlo papp, but that is a tough call

ABA Boxing · Post by **ABA Boxing** » 23 May 2007, 10:34

harrygreb wrote:best american - mark breland
best brit - terry waller
best world - laszlo papp, but that is a tough call

Dick McTaggart beats terry waller

But you picked laszlo papp correct

The only reason Papp doesnt come top of alot of peoples list was because he hasnt any World Championships, if they were around i have no doubt he would have won them all

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 23 May 2007, 10:36

mike222 wrote:Rigo has to be up there,he has just won his 96th fight in a row,and is seldom extended.Kindelan was a bit special too.

Raushee Warren lost 21-17 to him last fall at 119#. Can Warren beat him in 2008? If so, then the gold should go to Warren. I'm assuming of course that he makes the US Olympic team at 119# and qualifies for the Olympics and doesn't get injured or something. Same assumptions for Rigo and that Rigo stays at 119#.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 23 May 2007, 11:00

In the last 35 years I would say it is Teofilo Stevenson. He was an excellent boxer, strong and conditioned. He dominated his opponents for more than a decade. Savon would be 2nd. I can't go back more than 35 years as that is about when I was old enough to start to watch boxing.

mike222 · Post by **mike222** » 23 May 2007, 11:13

Dennis,Rigo does have a habit of winning by three or four points so the spread isnt material but he was impressed by Warren who stretched him.However for the Olympics will Warren not compete as a flyweight .If he does he will have to watch out for the brilliant young junior world champion the Ukrainian Lomachenko who is highly regarded

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 23 May 2007, 11:30

mike222 wrote:Dennis,Rigo does have a habit of winning by three or four points so the spread isnt material but he was impressed by Warren who stretched him.However for the Olympics will Warren not compete as a flyweight .If he does he will have to watch out for the brilliant young junior world champion the Ukrainian Lomachenko who is highly regarded

We won't know what Warren is doing until the US Championships and maybe not even then. If he competes at the US Championships at 119#, does he give up his automatic bid into the Olympic Trials box-offs at 112# (from winning the Nat'l PAL)? I think the answer is yes and that the runner-up Qaid Muhammad then goes to the US Championships as the PAL rep and is automatically in the Olympic Trials box-offs. Warren could lose at the US Championships and then not even compete in the trials. Remember I said COULD, I really doubt that he will lose. But what if he gets sick or something.

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 23 May 2007, 18:35

mctaggert was fantastic but in my book terry shades it. nice to hear from you though ABA

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 12 Jun 2007, 08:41

Dennis wrote:In the last 35 years I would say it is Teofilo Stevenson. He was an excellent boxer, strong and conditioned. He dominated his opponents for more than a decade. Savon would be 2nd. I can't go back more than 35 years as that is about when I was old enough to start to watch boxing.

He didn't dominate Igor Vysotsky, that for sure.

walshb · Post by **walshb** » 19 Jun 2007, 09:50

Man it has to be the big men....teo and Savon, 3 Olympic golds in succession....other than them you have a handful like Papp, Leonard, Breland, Whitaker, Hector Vinent (superb), Kindelan and Rigondeaux

docjock · Post by **docjock** » 19 Jun 2007, 21:08

Felix Savon.

In three Olympics, he was only really tested once.

DAC512 · Post by **DAC512** » 03 Jul 2007, 09:12

if dick mctaggert is to be mentioned then you have to give credit where its due.there was a scots lad called jimmy croll who had 100 amateur fights winning 3 british youth titles and was the no1 amateur in britain.he contracted pluricy and had to withdraw from the olympics giving his place to mctaggert.he missed the olympics but turned pro which i believe was a feat mctaggert chose not to.although croll was not the same fighter after his illness he still went on and had a sucessful career as a pro becoming welterweight champion of scotland.
like i said you have to give credit where its due and you cant take it away from mctaggert but croll was better than mctaggert and if it were not for his illness would have easily became best british ameteur in everyones minds.
its only my opinion.

benvolio · Post by **benvolio** » 14 Aug 2007, 10:20

Of course you cannot compare boxers of different times. And what do you mean? The boxer most successful as amateur (most olympic medals, that means those who turned pros rather late like Laszlo Papp or never like Teofilo Stevenson) or a splendid amateur who became a successful pro as well, then you must count on Cassius Clay, gold medalist, turning pro only 18 years old. It's a pity there was never a bout Ali vs. Stevenson which would have been possible in the 70ties but made impossible by the then amateur rules and on account of sport politics of Cuba.

Jacopodb · Post by **Jacopodb** » 31 Dec 2018, 12:03

Number one must be Teofilo Stevenson: he's like the Michael Jordan of amateur boxing: everyone else would be no match for him.

Other huge names by common sense, in no particular order:
Felix Savon
Mario Kindelan
Laszlo Papp
Roberto Cammarelle
Guillermo Rigondeaux

In no particular order: Gennady Golovkin, Clemente Russo, Domenico Valentino and Vasyl Lomachenko are honourable mentions.

This is what my shallow knowledge of boxing suggests me. Fair to say nevertheless.

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