Greetings British Fight Fans,
I have called for action from the WBC Board of Goveners to overturn the point deduction rule for accidental headbutts used in WBC title fights!!!!
(Please see my response in the General Section and go to the WBC's website, click on "Contact Us" and show your displeasure for the rule! A rule that robbed us of a great fight last night!
Jack
Please See My Post in Main Sec. Re WBC Headbutt Rule!
heres your post
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Greetings,
I know that there are represenitives of the WBC that are a part of this forum. A call to action is necessary immediately to overturn that mandatory 1-point deduction for an accidental headbutt, which produces a cut by taking a point from the uninjured fighter. This rule was instituted at the WBC's convention around October of 1987 with the belief that "the cut eye, even if unintentional puts the fighter at a disadvantage." (Suliiman's words) the point deduction from the uninjured fighter is supposed to neutralize the disadvantage.
It is well documented that the WBC has one of the finest safety regulations for fighters and fights. However, in this case...NOTHING GOOD COMES OUT OF THIS RULE. The reason is because you are simply penalizing a fighter for being lucky. This rule has disturbingly come into effect for Vaca-Honneygan I, Chavez-Randall II, and most recently, Brodie-Chi. This is not a good rule! Fighters clash heads all the time and headbutts are going to occur. Why should any fighter be penalized for an accident? What do you do if both fighters emerge with head-butt cuts in a WBC fight? Do you not deduct any points, or do you take a point away from each fighter. Both fighters were cut in round 1 in Brodie-Chi in a classic war, so in theory, the point deduction should not have taken place. What's worse, is this wonderful Korean in Chi is deprived of his victory because of an obscure rule. The Board Of Governers for the WBC should take another look at this rule for the betterment of boxing. I understand that the point deduction for an accidental headbutt rule can be overturned if both parties agree to it. Many fighters and managers who care about their fighters try to have this rule overturned before ANY WBC title fight.
The United States has overturned the unintentional butt rule. Fighters hate it, managers hate it, promoters hate it. If the USA got rid of it in 1997, one of the most prestigous countries in the world for boxing, should that tell President Sulaiman and the Board of Goveners that this is not a good rule and needs to be abolished. Penalty points are for intentional ring violations, not accidents. Why is the WBC punishing fighters for accidental fouls? Please, for the betterment of boxing and to minimize the confusion of the rules, overturn this rule throughout the world. Thank you!
You can contact the WBC's website at:
http://www.wbcboxing.com
Click on "Contact Us" and let them know how you feel about this rule and site the reasons I said above to petition the Board of Governers to overturn it. This rule has got to go!!!!!
Jack
hope you didnt copy right it
Greetings,
I know that there are represenitives of the WBC that are a part of this forum. A call to action is necessary immediately to overturn that mandatory 1-point deduction for an accidental headbutt, which produces a cut by taking a point from the uninjured fighter. This rule was instituted at the WBC's convention around October of 1987 with the belief that "the cut eye, even if unintentional puts the fighter at a disadvantage." (Suliiman's words) the point deduction from the uninjured fighter is supposed to neutralize the disadvantage.
It is well documented that the WBC has one of the finest safety regulations for fighters and fights. However, in this case...NOTHING GOOD COMES OUT OF THIS RULE. The reason is because you are simply penalizing a fighter for being lucky. This rule has disturbingly come into effect for Vaca-Honneygan I, Chavez-Randall II, and most recently, Brodie-Chi. This is not a good rule! Fighters clash heads all the time and headbutts are going to occur. Why should any fighter be penalized for an accident? What do you do if both fighters emerge with head-butt cuts in a WBC fight? Do you not deduct any points, or do you take a point away from each fighter. Both fighters were cut in round 1 in Brodie-Chi in a classic war, so in theory, the point deduction should not have taken place. What's worse, is this wonderful Korean in Chi is deprived of his victory because of an obscure rule. The Board Of Governers for the WBC should take another look at this rule for the betterment of boxing. I understand that the point deduction for an accidental headbutt rule can be overturned if both parties agree to it. Many fighters and managers who care about their fighters try to have this rule overturned before ANY WBC title fight.
The United States has overturned the unintentional butt rule. Fighters hate it, managers hate it, promoters hate it. If the USA got rid of it in 1997, one of the most prestigous countries in the world for boxing, should that tell President Sulaiman and the Board of Goveners that this is not a good rule and needs to be abolished. Penalty points are for intentional ring violations, not accidents. Why is the WBC punishing fighters for accidental fouls? Please, for the betterment of boxing and to minimize the confusion of the rules, overturn this rule throughout the world. Thank you!
You can contact the WBC's website at:
http://www.wbcboxing.com
Click on "Contact Us" and let them know how you feel about this rule and site the reasons I said above to petition the Board of Governers to overturn it. This rule has got to go!!!!!
Jack
Jack, its a well written piece and I agree whole heartly.However, I think you've got the wrong end of the stick as far as this last fight is concerned (from what I have read).REAL_DEAL wrote:heres your post
hope you didnt copy right it
Greetings,
I know that there are represenitives of the WBC that are a part of this forum. A call to action is necessary immediately to overturn that mandatory 1-point deduction for an accidental headbutt, which produces a cut by taking a point from the uninjured fighter. This rule was instituted at the WBC's convention around October of 1987 with the belief that "the cut eye, even if unintentional puts the fighter at a disadvantage." (Suliiman's words) the point deduction from the uninjured fighter is supposed to neutralize the disadvantage.
It is well documented that the WBC has one of the finest safety regulations for fighters and fights. However, in this case...NOTHING GOOD COMES OUT OF THIS RULE. The reason is because you are simply penalizing a fighter for being lucky. This rule has disturbingly come into effect for Vaca-Honneygan I, Chavez-Randall II, and most recently, Brodie-Chi. This is not a good rule! Fighters clash heads all the time and headbutts are going to occur. Why should any fighter be penalized for an accident? What do you do if both fighters emerge with head-butt cuts in a WBC fight? Do you not deduct any points, or do you take a point away from each fighter. Both fighters were cut in round 1 in Brodie-Chi in a classic war, so in theory, the point deduction should not have taken place. What's worse, is this wonderful Korean in Chi is deprived of his victory because of an obscure rule. The Board Of Governers for the WBC should take another look at this rule for the betterment of boxing. I understand that the point deduction for an accidental headbutt rule can be overturned if both parties agree to it. Many fighters and managers who care about their fighters try to have this rule overturned before ANY WBC title fight.
The United States has overturned the unintentional butt rule. Fighters hate it, managers hate it, promoters hate it. If the USA got rid of it in 1997, one of the most prestigous countries in the world for boxing, should that tell President Sulaiman and the Board of Goveners that this is not a good rule and needs to be abolished. Penalty points are for intentional ring violations, not accidents. Why is the WBC punishing fighters for accidental fouls? Please, for the betterment of boxing and to minimize the confusion of the rules, overturn this rule throughout the world. Thank you!
You can contact the WBC's website at:
http://www.wbcboxing.com
Click on "Contact Us" and let them know how you feel about this rule and site the reasons I said above to petition the Board of Governers to overturn it. This rule has got to go!!!!!
Jack
It was Brodie who was deducted a point, so if it wasn't for this obscure rule the Manchester lad would have won. As much as I don't like the rule it did prevent a hometown decision on Saturday.
The point deduction did stand, but apparently one of the judges (the one who was read out as giving it to Chi by a round) docked TWO points of the Brit.
Yes, Chi was deprived of a victory, but it was THANKS to the law that he actually got a draw.
Again, I agree the law is obscure and downright cruel, and if you drop the line in which you claim Chi was deprived of a victory, then I'll back your claim. While I agree, I'm afraid that line is factually incorrect.
Close...but not exactly. This is what I read happend:The point deduction did stand, but apparently one of the judges (the one who was read out as giving it to Chi by a round) docked TWO points of the Brit.
1. A point deduction was called for a cut from an unintentional clash of heads leaving both fighters cut in round 1. In hindsight, because both fighters sustained butt cuts, the point should not have been deducted. However Belgum ref Daniel Van DeWile ruled that Brodie had caused the cut by leading with his head and deducted one point from the Brits score in accordance with WBC regulations.
2. All three judges missed the signal for the point deduction by the ref, which was very sutle to begin with. At the end of the fight, the WBC representitive noted that no points had been deducted from Mr. Brodie's tally. There was an extensive delay, so WBC President Jose Sulamian interviend and made the first round point deductions on each of the three cards.
3. 10 minutes later, the announcment of the cards is given 114-112 Chi, 113-113, draw, 113-112 Chi! Everyone thinks Chi has won.
4. About 45 minutes later the master scoresheet is compared with the original scorecards for varification. Why did it take so long to add numbers? Who knows. President Sulaiman it was found had mistakenly deducted two points from the one judges' card that was announced at 113-112 Chi instead of 1 point. So the result was changed and offically as follows:
114-112 Chi
113-113 Draw
112-112 Draw
Michael Brodie retains the title by a majority draw.
Jack