Was there ever a threat on Ali's life?
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oliverfennell
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Was there ever a threat on Ali's life?
I was just thinking about the era in which Clay became Ali and a Black Muslim, long before he became a hero figure and racial tension was tangible. Martin Luther King and Malcolm X got assassinated, so I was wondering if ever an attempt was made or a credible threat on Ali's life was made, or evidence of a plot was ever found. Considering the time and the environment of the time, I'd be surprised if somebody somewhere didn't think Ali was worth a pop at.
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Around the time Malcolm X was killed there was talk that Ali was next, but as far as I now it was just talk and there was no real evidence of a plot to kill Ali which is a shock considering the times he lived in and his high profile etc.
However wasn't there around this time a bomb alert or fire bomb at a flat Ali was staying in at the time?
But at this point Malcolm X had left The Nation Islam and was going his own way and Ali had turned his back on Malcolm X and stayed loyal to The Nation Of Islam, so Ali was well protected.
But there was and still is plenty of lone gunmen out there.
However wasn't there around this time a bomb alert or fire bomb at a flat Ali was staying in at the time?
But at this point Malcolm X had left The Nation Islam and was going his own way and Ali had turned his back on Malcolm X and stayed loyal to The Nation Of Islam, so Ali was well protected.
But there was and still is plenty of lone gunmen out there.
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I Feel Fine
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This is exactly how bellweathers like granberry are attacked and begin to lose credibilty........a somewhat hard to believe story which is true in every way....(like the decagon story above) is put out as if it is a complete joke. People give a laugh and say "not even granberry would say that" then sure enough granberry (sworn never to lie) is forced to tell us these actual facts ...but by then the stage has been set.....we all laugh and ignore the actual truth.....the one who has the courarge to stand up for the truth (granberry in this case) is ridiculed....and the truth is lost forever. This is how the insidious plan works.Decagon wrote:I'm waiting for Granberry to make a post about how assassins tried to shoot Ali at the Sonny Liston rematch, but Liston dived in front of Ali just in time to save his life, and, using his incredible ability not to bleed, sucked up the pain and almost beat the count.
Decagon is part of the conspiracy and there is not a damn thing any of us can do to set things straight.
The irony of it all is that Decagon.....is the man from the grassy knoll.
damn almost forgot to say something boxing related.......everlast gloves
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elmersalsa
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I Feel Fine
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What is your f-cking problem? I've read a lot about Ali, and I've seen a lot of film on Ali, and I think "assassination attempt that nearly succeeded" would have came up at some point.elmersalsa wrote:Are you guys that old??? That happened over 40 years ago!!!I Feel Fine wrote:Yeah, as kojoe said, there were rumors, perhaps threats, but nothing credible. To my knowledge no one ever actually tried it.![]()
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Jack Johnson had many threats on his life, and at least one person actually came into Johnson's house or apartment with the intent of trying it. We know about that, and that was almost a century ago.
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Collins2000
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Your most hilarious post so far this week, Crankberry. Congratulations, you funny little man.granberry wrote:The group that ran Ali, the Nation of Islam ,
killed Malcolm X
and they slaughtered a large group of Hanafi women and children at a house in Washington DC set up by basketball star Abdul Jabar.
To this day Jabar has never said a word publicly about that.
(He wants to stay alive).
The way you put the final sentence in brackets was pure genius.
Instead of bagging Buzz, you ought to ask him if his contacts in the entertainment industry can get you a job writing for those True Detective wank mags.
It is my understanding that Malcolm X left 'The Nation' for various reasons, first he visited Mecca and met a lot of white Muslims, he also believed the leader of 'The Nation' was on the take money wise and was sleeping around with lots of women etc.
Malcolm X was a very driven, inteligent and charismatic man and may have gone on to be an extremely powerfull leader of people (Martin Luther King was another)
There were many people that were scared by this. They were both killed.
Read into that what you will.
Malcolm X was a very driven, inteligent and charismatic man and may have gone on to be an extremely powerfull leader of people (Martin Luther King was another)
There were many people that were scared by this. They were both killed.
Read into that what you will.
I was aware of this claim.....certainly not whole cloth contrivance. Though one wonders as to the crediblity of the claim. No way of really knowing unless you simply have faith based on the original source.Decagon wrote:For what it's worth, Granberry did NOT make this up. Jack Cashill talks about this incident in his works.Collins2000 wrote:Your most hilarious post so far this week, Crankberry. Congratulations, you funny little man.granberry wrote:The group that ran Ali, the Nation of Islam ,
killed Malcolm X
and they slaughtered a large group of Hanafi women and children at a house in Washington DC set up by basketball star Abdul Jabar.
To this day Jabar has never said a word publicly about that.
(He wants to stay alive).
The way you put the final sentence in brackets was pure genius.
Instead of bagging Buzz, you ought to ask him if his contacts in the entertainment industry can get you a job writing for those True Detective wank mags.
decagon,Decagon wrote:For what it's worth, Granberry did NOT make this up. Jack Cashill talks about this incident in his works.Collins2000 wrote:Your most hilarious post so far this week, Crankberry. Congratulations, you funny little man.granberry wrote:The group that ran Ali, the Nation of Islam ,
killed Malcolm X
and they slaughtered a large group of Hanafi women and children at a house in Washington DC set up by basketball star Abdul Jabar.
To this day Jabar has never said a word publicly about that.
(He wants to stay alive).
The way you put the final sentence in brackets was pure genius.
Instead of bagging Buzz, you ought to ask him if his contacts in the entertainment industry can get you a job writing for those True Detective wank mags.
WHY are you limited to Jack Cashill?
The Washington Post was filled for days with the slaughter of the Hanafi muslim women and children by the Nation of Islam muslims (Ali's group) at the Hanafi muslim home in Washington DC bankrolled by Abdul Jabar.
It was national news.
Why are you limted to "books" written decades later?
Silly and superficial buzz tailors facts to suit his own petty whims.BoxBuzz wrote:I was aware of this claim.....certainly not whole cloth contrivance. Though one wonders as to the crediblity of the claim. No way of really knowing unless you simply have faith based on the original source.Decagon wrote:For what it's worth, Granberry did NOT make this up. Jack Cashill talks about this incident in his works.Collins2000 wrote: Your most hilarious post so far this week, Crankberry. Congratulations, you funny little man.
The way you put the final sentence in brackets was pure genius.
Instead of bagging Buzz, you ought to ask him if his contacts in the entertainment industry can get you a job writing for those True Detective wank mags.
Now silly and superficial buzz says the slaughter of the Hanafi muslim women and children in Washiington DC by the Nation of Islam
never happened.
buzz lives in a dream world where only whatever fits his pathetic whims are REAL.
Pretty serious stuff to manipulate granberry.... I'm sorry if I was misunderstood here, but I was referring to the threat on Ali's life and not any actual empirical item that took place. What took place....took place. What may or may not have been threatened and did not take place was what I was referring to.granberry wrote:Silly and superficial buzz tailors facts to suit his own petty whims.BoxBuzz wrote:I was aware of this claim.....certainly not whole cloth contrivance. Though one wonders as to the crediblity of the claim. No way of really knowing unless you simply have faith based on the original source.Decagon wrote:For what it's worth, Granberry did NOT make this up. Jack Cashill talks about this incident in his works.
Now silly and superficial buzz says the slaughter of the Hanafi muslim women and children in Washiington DC by the Nation of Islam
never happened.
buzz lives in a dream world where only whatever fits his pathetic whims are REAL.
Poor buzz is NOT "misunderstood."BoxBuzz wrote:Pretty serious stuff to manipulate granberry.... I'm sorry if I was misunderstood here, but I was referring to the threat on Ali's life and not any actual empirical item that took place. What took place....took place. What may or may not have been threatened and did not take place was what I was referring to.granberry wrote:Silly and superficial buzz tailors facts to suit his own petty whims.BoxBuzz wrote: I was aware of this claim.....certainly not whole cloth contrivance. Though one wonders as to the crediblity of the claim. No way of really knowing unless you simply have faith based on the original source.
Now silly and superficial buzz says the slaughter of the Hanafi muslim women and children in Washiington DC by the Nation of Islam
never happened.
buzz lives in a dream world where only whatever fits his pathetic whims are REAL.
He is only understood TOO WELL.
Well then, this hash is settled. Everybody go about your business, there is nothing to see here.
granberry, I want to see you back to your post as chief agitator and no more of these lengthy breaks, or I will bring you before the Union board of review. OH and pull your head out of your arse...I don't want any more showboating on this thread.
granberry, I want to see you back to your post as chief agitator and no more of these lengthy breaks, or I will bring you before the Union board of review. OH and pull your head out of your arse...I don't want any more showboating on this thread.
buzz has his head in his arseBoxBuzz wrote:Well then, this hash is settled. Everybody go about your business, there is nothing to see here.
granberry, I want to see you back to your post as chief agitator and no more of these lengthy breaks, or I will bring you before the Union board of review. OH and pull your head out of your arse...I don't want any more showboating on this thread.
but he thinks his superficial and silly posts somehow display his "knowledge" of boxing.
The average eight year old girl has more instinctive instincts for the subject of boxing than poor buzz does.
granberry wrote:buzz has his head in his arseBoxBuzz wrote:Well then, this hash is settled. Everybody go about your business, there is nothing to see here.
granberry, I want to see you back to your post as chief agitator and no more of these lengthy breaks, or I will bring you before the Union board of review. OH and pull your head out of your arse...I don't want any more showboating on this thread.
but he thinks his superficial and silly posts somehow display his "knowledge" of boxing.
The average eight year old girl has more instinctive instincts for the subject of boxing than poor buzz does.
If you were considered a "teacher" in this particular arena....what possible reason could there be to have "students"? Though your knowledge at times seems solid, it is completely obfiscated by your lack of deductive reasoning and oddly eccentric assumptions.