Naz 'little prince, big fight' is on ESPN, hilarious

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 05 Jun 2007, 07:37

Eric the Viking wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:It is worth noting however, that there is nothing in the Qu'ran forbidding the consumption of alcohol. Merely overindulging.
Beating your wife if she displeases you is also quite okay.

Is that actually in the Qu'ran?

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 05 Jun 2007, 08:09

Yes, Christian's are always at pains to point out the contradictions in the Qu'ran, whilst evading their own.

Of course, what all of them fail to grasp or mention, is that all religion is just a bunch of superstitious and outdated mumbo-jumbo which should have been tossed aside 1000 years ago.

Coco · Post by **Coco** » 05 Jun 2007, 08:21

'It is the opium of the masses' Karl Marx

Grilling Machine · Post by **Grilling Machine** » 06 Jun 2007, 02:02

ebeneezer wrote:The boxing version of Spinal Tap.

"Don't touch the hair. Well, don't even point at it then."

As I said to an amateur friend at the time: "If Eubank offers advice, you listen." You can always disregard it. I remember Chris had a folder or something.

I'd love to have seen what was in there. Notes, hand-drawn diagrams, poses?

Hamed and Khan are obsessed with their hair though. It's always the uniform cut too, where the little fringe has to be exactly the right curvature for some reason.

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 06 Jun 2007, 06:06

Grilling Machine wrote: Hamed and Khan are obsessed with their hair though. It's always the uniform cut too, where the little fringe has to be exactly the right curvature for some reason.

To distract from their faces?

ciscokid · Post by **ciscokid** » 06 Jun 2007, 18:45

I managed to download this and watch last night - what I found interesting was how Emanuel Stewart said he was dire in the first sparring session and then we didn't see him after until the fight- he seemed to be the only honest person on there! He told him straight in the fight - he was getting caught with shots and as his head was upright it was getting knocked back and the judges were scoring shots against him - he was losing rnds and needed a KO.

Fair to NAZ - he took it like a man and admitted he was beaten fair and square.

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 06 Jun 2007, 19:09

ciscokid wrote:Fair to NAZ - he took it like a man and admitted he was beaten fair and square.

then said "i will return"

yeah 1 fight and then f*cked off without a whimper.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 06 Jun 2007, 19:21

hitman_hatton1 wrote:
ciscokid wrote:Fair to NAZ - he took it like a man and admitted he was beaten fair and square.
then said "i will return"

yeah 1 fight and then f*cked off without a whimper.

Oh yeah, the post fight speech which was so applauded at the time looks so funny now and possibly even dents his boxing legacy.

Stuff like "To come back from a setback is what a true champion is about" (Very true Hamed, shame you didn't do it).

"I will comeback better, cause I have the heart of a Lion" (The Lion from the Wizard of Oz maybe).

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 07 Jun 2007, 05:56

The problem for Hamed was that he couldn't go back to the drawing board. Even before the Barrera fight, he had stopped listening to his trainers. He got rid of Ingle, brought in the much less experienced Suarez, who he could hire and fire at will, and then Steward to try and add a bit of something, but ultimately, he was his own man who only listened to his brothers, who were riding the gravy train of his career.

When he had to come back, what he needed was to be told home truths, have some hard sparring, work hard and get back to doing what made him a champion in the first place, but he couldn't or wouldn't handle being told these truths and being made to work, and that ultimately I think is why he didn't return.

Having read the Paddy and the Prince, it's pretty clear that Hamed's ego, which made him a special fighter in the first place, ultimately proved his undoing.