Yaqui Lopez
Mando Ramos
Frankie Durate
Joe Brown
Estaben Dejesus
Victor Galindez.......... all these fighters lives would make for great books I think...
Fighters that you would like to see biography's written for.
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Rory McCloskey
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hmm i dunno i dont really care for irish mickey ward IMO he was made famous by losing to gatti.
I think Joe Jeannette, Jack"Non-Pareil", and how about one on james figg?.. suer it was about 300 years ago but its not that far of a reach. i wanna read some biographies on the pioneers of the sport the old old english boxers from the 1700's
I think Joe Jeannette, Jack"Non-Pareil", and how about one on james figg?.. suer it was about 300 years ago but its not that far of a reach. i wanna read some biographies on the pioneers of the sport the old old english boxers from the 1700's
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Rory McCloskey
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How about George Dixon. Bantam-featherweight from the early 1900's. First black man to hold any world title. Reportedly fought as many as 800 times in his career.
A biography of Jack Broughton wouldn't be that bad. Helped shape the sport like we know it (not completely, but close). Have seen him listed as 200 odd and 1. Also a world class fencer and patron to a duke or something and later abandoned because he lost. Interesting story in my opinion.
A biography of Jack Broughton wouldn't be that bad. Helped shape the sport like we know it (not completely, but close). Have seen him listed as 200 odd and 1. Also a world class fencer and patron to a duke or something and later abandoned because he lost. Interesting story in my opinion.
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Sweet Scientist wrote:How would one go about writing a biography about someone who lived so long ago...an accurate biography that is...there are no living frames of reference...a lot of it would be guess work, wouldn't it? You couldn't interview anyone who saw him live...tough way to write, I think...
Interesting topic & one without board infighting I might add. There are no living frames of reference for many people pre 1800, yet there are biographies on them. I suppose if one vigorously researches all fights, news paper reads, pictures, film clips, living relatives, ect….one could up with a reasonably good biography as all of the above is not guess work.
Stories on how fighters go into boxing, and what they did outside the ring are often as interesting as the boxing itself. For example, if a young Cassius Clay did not get his bicycle stolen, he would have never seen the boxing flyer at the police station that got him into the sport.
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Mickey Ward has fought on ESPN around 20 times, most all were before the first Gatti bout. Everyday people didn't know about him, but the hardcore fans have watched him from the beginning of his career.
>>>Ali he would have never seen the boxing flyer at the police station that got him into the sport.<<<
Actually, it was the chief of police that took Ali to the gym after Ali reported his bike stolen.
As to early 1800 fighters and before, most of your big newspapers did not follow boxing as it was considered crude and barbaric, but there were some publications that covered all the big fights and most of the other fights as well of some of the early fighters. Reporters that give every single aspect to what happen from the round-by-round results all the way to what the fighters were wearing. A lot of people were wondering how someone like Pierce Egan could have such vivid accounts of all the fighters that he wrote about in the volumes of "Boxiana" that he published in the 1830s. Many thought that a lot of it was fiction and guess work, especially about the pre-1800 fighters, but then people went back and read accounts from old publications such as England's "Spirit of the Times" and a couple of other publications and saw for themselves that fights were indeed covered and covered very well.
>>>Ali he would have never seen the boxing flyer at the police station that got him into the sport.<<<
Actually, it was the chief of police that took Ali to the gym after Ali reported his bike stolen.
As to early 1800 fighters and before, most of your big newspapers did not follow boxing as it was considered crude and barbaric, but there were some publications that covered all the big fights and most of the other fights as well of some of the early fighters. Reporters that give every single aspect to what happen from the round-by-round results all the way to what the fighters were wearing. A lot of people were wondering how someone like Pierce Egan could have such vivid accounts of all the fighters that he wrote about in the volumes of "Boxiana" that he published in the 1830s. Many thought that a lot of it was fiction and guess work, especially about the pre-1800 fighters, but then people went back and read accounts from old publications such as England's "Spirit of the Times" and a couple of other publications and saw for themselves that fights were indeed covered and covered very well.
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'Rocket'Rigby
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Agreed, Ezzard of all boxers should have a biography so many more people can share in his memory and achievements.Ezzard wrote:Ezzard Charles defintiely should have a biog. It's criminal really and symptomatic of the alck of recognition.
Is there a Duran biography out there? How about Hagler?
I also would like one on Walcott, simply for the stories that would contain his battle to win the heavyweight crown, his trilogy with Ezzard Charles and battles with Louis and Marciano.
Roberto Duran: Hands of Stone: The Life and Legend of Roberto Duran ISBN-10: 1903854555 (Available on Amazon.co.uk)
Not one on Hagler as far as I know...
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me too:::The Boxing Enthusiast wrote:Sonny Liston.
Song for Sonny Liston Lyrics
Mark Knopfler
so many mouths
to feed on the farm
sonny was the second
to the last one born
his mamma ran away
and his daddy beat him bad
and he grew up wild
good love he never had
he had a left
like henry’s hammer
a right like betty bamalam
rode with the muggers
in the dark and dread
and all them sluggers
went down like lead
well he hung with the hoods
he wouldn’t stroke the fans
but he had dynamite
in both his hands
boom bam
like the slammer door
the bell and the can
and the bodies on the floor
beware the bear’s in town
somebody’s money says
the bear’s going down
yeah, the bear never smiles
sonny’s going down
for miles and miles
sonny’s going down
for miles and miles
the writers didn’t like him
the fight game jocks
with his lowlife backers
and his hands like rocks
they didn’t want to have
a bogey man
they didn’t like him
and he didn’t like them
black cadillac
alligator boots
money in the pockets
of his sharkskin suits
some say the bear
took a flop
they couldn’t believe it
when they saw him drop
he had a left
like henry’s hammer
a right like betty bamalam
rode with the muggers
in the dark and dread
and all them sluggers
went down like lead
joe louis was his hero
he tried to be the same
but a criminal child
wears a ball and chain
so the civil rights people
didn’t want him on the throne
and the hacks and the cops
wouldn’t leave him alone
beware the bear’s in town
somebody’s money says
the bear’s going down
yeah, the bear never smiles
sonny’s going down
for miles and miles
sonny’s going down
for miles and miles
at the foot of his bed
with his feet on the floor
there was dope in his veins
and a pistol on the drawer
there was no investigation
as such
he hated needles
but he knew too much
criss-crossed
on his back
scars from his daddy
like slavery tracks
the second-last child
was the second-last king
never again was it the same
in the ring
he had a left
like henry’s hammer
a right like betty bamalam
rode with the muggers
in the dark and dread
and all them sluggers
went down like lead
they never could be sure
about the day he was born
a motherless child
set to working on the farm
and they never could be sure
about the day he died
the bear was the king
they cast aside
beware the bear’s in town
somebody’s money says
the bear’s going down
yeah, the bear never smiles
sonny’s going down
for miles and miles
sonny’s going down
for miles and miles
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There is a really small biography on Joe Grim which was written back in the 20s, or early 30s. It speaks in detail about a few of Grim's more important bouts, but it is only around 30 pages, or so. Someone could do a really job on Grim in around 350 pages and it would be one of the more interesting biographies ever written, that is if the writer knows what he is doing and does a good job!
I'd certainly find a biog of Rosenbloom interesting.wsbuf wrote:Max Baer and Maxie Rosenbloom. May be same book since their after boxing lives were intertwined.
Fidel Labarba also.
Battling Siki had a pretty interesting life, although it would be hard to get enough detailed material I would imagine.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Battling-Siki-F ... 325&sr=1-1J-C wrote:Battling Siki had a pretty interesting life, although it would be hard to get enough detailed material I would imagine.