Cotto v Judah on UK TV

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 09 Jun 2007, 21:19

leforge wrote:american commentry!!!

Not Sheridan which is a good thing!

leforge · Post by **leforge** » 09 Jun 2007, 21:20

But is still poor, surely holdsworth and co would be better

Manc_Red · Post by **Manc_Red** » 09 Jun 2007, 21:22

Will there be Setanta Commentry sent out to Ricky Hatton's Fight in Las Vega's??

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 09 Jun 2007, 21:34

leforge wrote:But is still poor, surely holdsworth and co would be better

Sorry disagree there, since teaming up with Mee, Holdsworth has been afraid to have an opinion and if Mee disagrees - Holdsworth will change his mind.

His commentary on Valuev vs Chagaev was like he has never seen a fight in his life, let alone been a decent Amateur/Pro and with argueably the most extensive video collection in the UK.

Although Mario Lopez is particularly annoying, why does he do these PPV so often. He has no history in Journalism or fighting. He's a actor whose a bit of a fight fan.

states · Post by **states** » 09 Jun 2007, 21:39

Yep, Bob Mee has, in some ways, shown up Holdsworth big time. Mee has pointed out his errors, and as a result, Holdsworth is shying off saying anything, for fear of being called on it. At least that's the impression I get.

Still, I think Mee is good.

leforge · Post by **leforge** » 09 Jun 2007, 21:41

Yes but i prefer a uk team. Get Woodhall and Neily for the fight

states · Post by **states** » 09 Jun 2007, 21:48

I quite like hearing a non-UK team on occasion, and it makes sense if there's no UK fighter involved, in terms of cost. Interesting to get some other views on the fight.

leforge · Post by **leforge** » 09 Jun 2007, 21:50

But for Hatton fight please have a uk team.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 09 Jun 2007, 21:52

states wrote:Yep, Bob Mee has, in some ways, shown up Holdsworth big time. Mee has pointed out his errors, and as a result, Holdsworth is shying off saying anything, for fear of being called on it. At least that's the impression I get.

Still, I think Mee is good.

Mee is excellent, I don't think he is rude in correcting Steve. The thing that has shocked me in more recent weeks though is that it is not just in the stats and facts side of things (Mee is something of an Encyclopedia) but also on the tactical/action side of things.

Holdsworth has said some absolutely outrageous things since teaming up with Mee and he did need to be brought up on. Suggesting that a 37 year old shot Roy Jones would give Valuev problems was something that Jim Neilly wouldn't have brought up.

The worst though was the Valuev fight. Holdsworth was "implying" that Chagaev wasn't doing enough, although boxing well, to win the fight... that could have been valid. Mee said he disagreed and Steve said "your right", round to Chagaev. Then he would say in one breath that Valuev must be such a hard fighter to fight, Mee would say though that he cannot handle the Chagaev charges and cannot handle Southpaw... Then Holdsworth would say "yep, I've always thought a half decent boxer would beat Valuev".

states · Post by **states** » 09 Jun 2007, 21:54

Rumour has it that Setanta wanted to poach Rawling and Duke for the Hatton fight. That's what Alan Hubbard wrote in The Independent on Sunday. That was a few weeks ago though, and anything could have happened since then. Hubbard is usually pretty accurate though. He was the first print journalist I saw that mentioned Hatton's move to Setanta.

Manc_Red · Post by **Manc_Red** » 09 Jun 2007, 21:55

Dont think there's anyone who'll do it justice, unless they pull off an amazing stroke from sky such as darke..... doubt it, i say commentry will be american

leforge · Post by **leforge** » 09 Jun 2007, 21:55

Will ITV show another fight?

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 09 Jun 2007, 21:56

Dino wrote:Dont think there's anyone who'll do it justice, unless they pull off an amazing stroke from sky such as darke..... doubt it, i say commentry will be american

I hope we could have the direct HBO commentary, Merchant and co.

Manc_Red · Post by **Manc_Red** » 09 Jun 2007, 21:57

I think Setanta will get Warren... so no is my answer

states · Post by **states** » 09 Jun 2007, 21:59

stujones wrote:
states wrote:Yep, Bob Mee has, in some ways, shown up Holdsworth big time. Mee has pointed out his errors, and as a result, Holdsworth is shying off saying anything, for fear of being called on it. At least that's the impression I get.

Still, I think Mee is good.
Mee is excellent, I don't think he is rude in correcting Steve. The thing that has shocked me in more recent weeks though is that it is not just in the stats and facts side of things (Mee is something of an Encyclopedia) but also on the tactical/action side of things.

Holdsworth has said some absolutely outrageous things since teaming up with Mee and he did need to be brought up on. Suggesting that a 37 year old shot Roy Jones would give Valuev problems was something that Jim Neilly wouldn't have brought up.

The worst though was the Valuev fight. Holdsworth was "implying" that Chagaev wasn't doing enough, although boxing well, to win the fight... that could have been valid. Mee said he disagreed and Steve said "your right", round to Chagaev. Then he would say in one breath that Valuev must be such a hard fighter to fight, Mee would say though that he cannot handle the Chagaev charges and cannot handle Southpaw... Then Holdsworth would say "yep, I've always thought a half decent boxer would beat Valuev".

Yes, not having a go at Mee in any way. I just think it's more a case that Holdsworth has been so used to commentating on his own, and usually on minor cards, that having someone to point out where he's gone wrong is so unusual to him. Mee has been spot-on in his interjections.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 10 Jun 2007, 00:18

I don't think Setanta are in the position to send their boys over to do live commentary yet. They're only just beginning their boxing venture.

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 10 Jun 2007, 07:01

leforge wrote:Yes but i prefer a uk team. Get Woodhall and Neily for the fight

Without a shadow of a doubt (although Neily is fairly annoying most of the time..)

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 10 Jun 2007, 07:04

Neilly called Zab Judah and O'Neil Bell all time greats. And said of Johny Tapia, "You just want to take him home to your mummy." I can do without him.