Drink and drugs

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 13 Jun 2007, 06:08

Turns out that Diego Corrales was three times over the legal alcohol limit when he piled his bike up, leading a policeman to say, rather brutally "He basically killed himself".

On a lighter note, both James Toney and his last opponent tested positive for steroid use and have been fined and suspended.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 13 Jun 2007, 06:14

To put it in perspective though, three times over the legal limit is probably only a couple of pints of English lager. The legal limit in the US is tiny.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 13 Jun 2007, 06:39

I thought this thread was about my weekend at the Isle of Wight festival.
I'm still in recovery mode, good bands though (I think).

So what Ban will Toney get? This is his second Steroid offence isn't it

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 13 Jun 2007, 06:42

The ban is a year I think I read. Surely that's it for him now. He should hang them up.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 13 Jun 2007, 06:43

jomothepure wrote:The ban is a year I think I read. Surely that's it for him now. He should hang them up.

Is that world wide ban? Being boxing i could see him getting fights in other countries

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 13 Jun 2007, 06:49

Good point. Might even be just a ban in Cali

Shirow · Post by **Shirow** » 13 Jun 2007, 06:49

I read that by the time the ban is up he'll be just about 40.

It's hardly an opportunity to make a graceful exit from boxing but it's an exit and that's enough.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 13 Jun 2007, 07:06

Ok, i was just reading up on Boldenone , which is one of the steroids that Toney used, and one of the effects is an increase in appetite,

don't think Toney had any problems in that department.

Also its one of the long term in the case of detection, it will show up in tests 4-5 months after being used. Toney really must be thick to use it. Or he was given it with out him knowing.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 13 Jun 2007, 07:09

Old bones Ian wrote: Also its one of the long term in the case of detection, it will show up in tests 4-5 months after being used. Toney really must be thick to use it. Or he was given it with out him knowing.

Everyone uses Roids in HW boxing, its just Toney doesn't have a clue what hes doing to pass the tests - notice no HW boxer talks trash about other boxers failing tests - thats because everyones doing it

The sad thing is I heard Toneys broke - not sure if thats true though

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 13 Jun 2007, 07:10

Quite an accusation that. how would you reccomend passing the tests?

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 13 Jun 2007, 07:12

Wales wrote:

Quite an accusation that. how would you reccomend passing the tests?

take roids that stay in your system for a short period of time then cut them out an appropriate period of time before the test, some only stay in your system for 3days. The downside is the 1s that get out your system fast have a more toxic effect on your liver

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 13 Jun 2007, 07:16

I would say that there are some that take steroids, but not all of them do.

Sweet P · Post by **Sweet P** » 13 Jun 2007, 08:13

jamesmcdonnell wrote:To put it in perspective though, three times over the legal limit is probably only a couple of pints of English lager. The legal limit in the US is tiny.

He was .25 the limit there is .08. He was fairly pissed as .25 is some serious drinking.

J · Post by J » 13 Jun 2007, 08:17

And here was I just thinking Ian was giving me a warning he was popping down to London.

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 14 Jun 2007, 12:02

J wrote:And here was I just thinking Ian was giving me a warning he was popping down to London.

Coming soon to a pub near you...

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 14 Jun 2007, 12:18

After so much early promise (destruction of Holyfield) Toney turned out to be somewhat of a nearly man in the Heavyweight division. He nearly beat Rahman but got outworked and got the draw, he outpointed Ruiz and got tested positive for steroids, he nearly beat Peter but was too fat to last the distance well enough and was outworked and generally ouclassed in the return. Tonet promised much as a Heavyweight but ultimately failed to deliver.

ArtOfWar · Post by **ArtOfWar** » 14 Jun 2007, 14:03

Old bones Ian wrote:Ok, i was just reading up on Boldenone , which is one of the steroids that Toney used, and one of the effects is an increase in appetite, don't think Toney had any problems in that department.

Also its one of the long term in the case of detection, it will show up in tests 4-5 months after being used. Toney really must be thick to use it. Or he was given it with out him knowing.

Billy Blanks training tips coming into practice.

What a donut Toney is though, he's tarnished his legacy badly. I remember when he fought Holyfield a few people said he looked like he was a bit bloated from steroid use. And even at cruiserweight he was like that. It's quite conceivable that he's been juicing for age's and has gotten away with it all this time.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 14 Jun 2007, 14:11

ben k wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:To put it in perspective though, three times over the legal limit is probably only a couple of pints of English lager. The legal limit in the US is tiny.
He was .25 the limit there is .08. He was fairly pissed as .25 is some serious drinking.

No it isn't, 6 pints over 3 hours is .31, that's hardly serious drinking is it, half a pint an hour?

http://www.medicdirect.co.uk/self_Exam/ ... p=5&cid=17

m1kee50 · Post by **m1kee50** » 14 Jun 2007, 15:23

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
ben k wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:To put it in perspective though, three times over the legal limit is probably only a couple of pints of English lager. The legal limit in the US is tiny.
He was .25 the limit there is .08. He was fairly pissed as .25 is some serious drinking.
No it isn't, 6 pints over 3 hours is .31, that's hardly serious drinking is it, half a pint an hour?

http://www.medicdirect.co.uk/self_Exam/ ... p=5&cid=17

Did you start already mate? lol

6 pints in three hours is two pints an hour, 3 pints in siz hours is half a pint an hour

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 14 Jun 2007, 15:25

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
ben k wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:To put it in perspective though, three times over the legal limit is probably only a couple of pints of English lager. The legal limit in the US is tiny.
He was .25 the limit there is .08. He was fairly pissed as .25 is some serious drinking.
No it isn't, 6 pints over 3 hours is .31, that's hardly serious drinking is it, half a pint an hour?

http://www.medicdirect.co.uk/self_Exam/ ... p=5&cid=17

As is 2 pints over an hour, bare in mind some of the alcohol would have been burned off after the start of him driving, and perhaps after death - that part I'm unsure of

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 14 Jun 2007, 15:26

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
ben k wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:To put it in perspective though, three times over the legal limit is probably only a couple of pints of English lager. The legal limit in the US is tiny.
He was .25 the limit there is .08. He was fairly pissed as .25 is some serious drinking.
No it isn't, 6 pints over 3 hours is .31, that's hardly serious drinking is it, half a pint an hour?

http://www.medicdirect.co.uk/self_Exam/ ... p=5&cid=17

I didn't pick up on that, it must be the .31 in my system

BunglesFingers · Post by **BunglesFingers** » 14 Jun 2007, 16:21

Some people would be rat arsed if they drank 5 or 6 pints in the space of 3 hours, certainly way too pissed to be driving a car but to get on a sports bike would be just plain stupid.

Still, he didn't take anyone else out with him and paid the ultimate price. Let's hope others will learn from his mistakes.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 15 Jun 2007, 04:52

~ MIKEE ~ wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
ben k wrote: He was .25 the limit there is .08. He was fairly pissed as .25 is some serious drinking.
No it isn't, 6 pints over 3 hours is .31, that's hardly serious drinking is it, half a pint an hour?

http://www.medicdirect.co.uk/self_Exam/ ... p=5&cid=17
Did you start already mate? lol

6 pints in three hours is two pints an hour, 3 pints in siz hours is half a pint an hour

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