Heavyweight greats top ten

[silkov]

This is my pick of the best 10 heavyweights ever,
1. Muhammad Ali
2. Jack Johnson
3. Joe Louis
4. Larry Holmes
5. George Foreman
6. Jim Jeffries
7. Joe Frazier
8. Ezzard Charles
9. Jim Corbett
10. Rocky Marciano

......all opinions and alternative top tens are more than welcome!.

[knockout artist]

Assuming all in their prime IMO

1. Joe Louis
2. Larry Holmes
3. Jack Dempsey
4. Sonny Liston
5. Jack Johnson
6. Rocky Marciano
7. George Foreman
8. Muhammad Ali
9. Joe Frazier
10. Mike Tyson

[bennie]

This is my pick of the best 10 heavyweights ever,
1. Muhammad Ali
2. Jack Johnson
3. Joe Louis
4. Larry Holmes
5. George Foreman
6. Jim Jeffries
7. Joe Frazier
8. Ezzard Charles
9. Jim Corbett
10. Rocky Marciano

......all opinions and alternative top tens are more than welcome!.

That's a good list. I agree Larry Holmes should always be high and that ALi and Louis are right up there. Wouldn't argue with Jack Johnson at number two.

Here's my own take:

Top 15 heavies of all time

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Larry Holmes
4. Jack Johnson
5. Jack Dempsey
6. Rocky Marciano
7. George Foreman
8. Jim Jeffries
9. Evander Holyfield
10. Joe Frazier
11. Gene Tunney
12. Sonny Liston
13. Jim Corbett
14. Lennox Lewis
15. Jersey Joe Walcott


Plus:

My hardest-hitting heavies of all time:

1. Joe Louis
2. Jack Dempsey
3. George Foreman
4. Rocky Marciano
5. Jim Jeffries
6. Sonny Liston
7. John L. Sullivan
8. Joe Frazier
9. Mike Tyson
10. Earnie Shavers





My top ten greatest fighters ever are:

1. SUGAR RAY ROBINSON
2. MUHAMMAD ALI
3. JOE LOUIS
4. HENRY ARMSTRONG
5. WILLIE PEP
6. ARCHIE MOORE
7. SUGAR RAY LEONARD
8. MARVIN HAGLER
9. ROBERTO DURAN
10. BENNY LEONARD

[Mr Pickalini]

Here's Mine:

1.Joe Louis
2.Larry Holmes
3.Muhammad Ali
4.Jack Johnson
5.George Foreman
6.Rocky Marciano
7.Lennox Lewis
8.Joe Frazier
9.Mike Tyson
10.Jack Dempsey

[knockout artist]

Here's Mine:

1.Joe Louis
2.Larry Holmes
3.Muhammad Ali
4.Jack Johnson
5.George Foreman
6.Rocky Marciano
7.Lennox Lewis
8.Joe Frazier
9.Mike Tyson
10.Jack Dempsey

Good list, but surprised you dont have Liston in there somewhere.

[bennie]

After careful consideration,

Here is my list of the 10 greatest heavyweight of all time:

1--Muhammed Ali
2--Muhammed Ali
3--Muhammed Ali
4--Muhammed Ali
5--Muhammed Ali
6--Muhammed Ali
7--Muhammed Ali
8--Muhammed Ali
9--Muhammed Ali
10-Muhammed Ali

You've spelt his name wrong.

[knockout artist]

After careful consideration,

Here is my list of the 10 greatest heavyweight of all time:

1--Muhammed Ali
2--Muhammed Ali
3--Muhammed Ali
4--Muhammed Ali
5--Muhammed Ali
6--Muhammed Ali
7--Muhammed Ali
8--Muhammed Ali
9--Muhammed Ali
10-Muhammed Ali

You've spelt his name wrong.

Not once, but 10 times!

[ArtOfWar]

My top 15:
1. Joe Louis 68(54)-3
2. Muhammad Ali 56(37)-5
3. Lennox Lewis 41(32)-2-1
4. George Foreman 76(68)-5
5. Jack Dempsey 62(50)-6-8
6. Sonny Liston 50(39)-4
7. Joe Frazier 32(27)-4-1
8. Rocky Marciano 49(43)-0
9. Evander Holyfield 38(25)-7-2
10. Larry Holmes 69(47)-6
11. Mike Tyson 50(44)-4
12. Jack Johnson 83(52)-14-14
13. Gene Tunney 64(47)-1-1
14. Ezzard Charles 96(58)-25-1
15. John L. Sullivan

[Sweet Scientist]

Here's mine...

1.) Joe Louis...(the 'complete package')
2.) Muhammad Ali...(the fastest ever, superb defense)
3.) Jack Johnson...(the most hated, until Ali, & Nat Fliesher's #1)
4.) Jack Dempsey...(terrific power, smart)
5.) George Foreman...(the ability to beat any of them on any given day!)
6.) Gene Tunney...(how can this guy ONLY be 6th? One of my favorites)
7.) Jim Jefferies...(tough & DANGEROUS)
8.) Larry Holmes...(the most UNDERRATED in history, in my opinion)
9.)Sonny Liston...(one 'bad ass' S.O.B., good ring technician, POWERFUL)
10.) *****tie******
Joe Frazier...(won the biggest fight of all time 3/8/71, HUGE heart)
Rocky Marciano...(rough & tough, would be a good matchup for Joe)

[Sweet Scientist]

After deep consideration

REVISED LIST:

My list of the 10 greatest heavyweights of all time:

1--Muhammad Ali
2--Muhammad Ali
3--Muhammad Ali
4--Muhammad Ali
5--Muhammad Ali
6--Muhammad Ali
7--Muhammad Ali
8--Muhammad Ali
9--Muhammad Ali
10-Muhammad Ali

A little less of your high and mighty arrogance wouldn't hurt...

Post YOUR picks...

If the rest of us here are all too far beneath you, because some people appreciated the career of Ali, then that's YOUR problem...

[Sweet Scientist]

Hey Terap. Did you get that list from your "long time Philly-Detroit trainer" friend that comes up with some of your best material?

Or did "Blinky" Palermo give it to you during the 'fixed' Norton-Young split decision...

[silkov]

Terap, looking at your revised top ten great heavyweights I see that I ve managed to convert you!. But perhaps I done I ve done it too well!!!!...... I ve heard about giving a fighter ten out of ten but I never thought I d see you give Ali 10 out of 10!!!. It's a strange old world. Especially if you're a boxing fan.

[Sweet Scientist]

Scientist--

Are you trying to prove that you have lowest mentality of anyone posting here?

This question from the only guy to post the same name 10 times for his top ten list???

[Braindrain]

Heres my favs:

1. Muhammad Ali (extremely fast, skilled, tough, cunning...... a great mediapersonality and human being).
2. Joe Louis.
3. Rocky Marciano.
4. George Foreman
5. Jack Dempsey.
6. Jack Johnson.
7. Larry Holmes.
8. Mike Tyson.
9. Max Schmeling.
10. James J. Jeffries (I got his name from a book :-)

[Sweet Scientist]

More Lists! More Lists!

[bull]

1.Rocky Marciano-boxing icon
2.Joe Louis-12 years world chamoion.
3.Mike Tyson-great power
4.Muhammad Ali-smooth dancer
5.Ezzard Charles- the best boxer

Low points.
The only Rocky Marciano's problem is that he is undefeated and many people hate him becouse of this fact. Boxing specialists, becouse is not elegance and not have good boxing tehnique. Other boxers, becouse they are all loosed in career. Journalists becouse is not very interestig speaker.
All these people comparet only one man with achievables of many differents boxers, from different generations, not undisputed champions and even not from one weight division.For example M. Ali popularity and harizma.J.Louis long time title reign. J.C. Chaves and W.Pep consecutive wins Larry Holmes , Dariusz Michalczewski...
Result - one dream boxing person versus Rocky Marciano.

Joe Louis was 12 years champ, but this inclused 4 years WW2 years. On teory Marciano can be 12 years champ (if war was in his time). Louis can't be undefeated champ, becouse Max Shemeling destroy him before championship bouts. Joe first bout vs. A Godoy was actualy draw. He lost his firs fight vs Walcott .Charles outpointed him. Marciano destroyed him.

Mike Tyson had animal power, but not very good mental condition.

"The Greatest" is the best actor in boxing and huge star, but he with nothing is the only or intangible as Marciano and Louis.

E.Charles is not very concentrate sometimes and lost by avarage boxers.

[Marciano Frazier]

My top 15:
1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. George Foreman
4. Rocky Marciano
5. Joe Frazier
6. Jack Dempsey
7. Larry Holmes
8. Jack Johnson
9. Sonny Liston
10. Jim Jeffries
11. Evander Holyfield
12. Jersey Joe Walcott
13. Ezzard Charles
14. Mike Tyson
15. Lennox Lewis

[TheRiverCityHippy]

1. ali
2. lewis
3. louis
4. holmes
5. marciano
6. johnson
7. jeffries
8. tunney
9. mace
10. dempsey

ali and lennox lewis beat the brown bomber into third place because i think the standard of opposition they faced was stiffer than joe`s in general. ali though well past his prime was still able to cope with the likes of frazier and foreman and i think time will be quite kind to lennox lewis.
though we may not think it now, the 90`s will be looked back upon as a golden era for heavyweights and lennox was the best of them. i know he lost a few but so did ali, dempsey and louis. plus lennox never lost a real big career defining fight. when he was up for it, he won. with hindsight the likes of tyson, holyfield, bowe, tua, golota, ruddock, grant, briggs etc will be looked back on as a decent bunch as a whole. i think that lot are stronger than schmelling, sharkey, braddock, baer, carnera ect. and stronger than cooney, norton, dokes etc. the rock is a favourite of mine but the men he beat were not the greatest and he had plenty of trouble with the likes of walcott, charles and lastarza.