first amateur fight

mac2367 · Post by **mac2367** » 05 Jun 2007, 00:42

Not a big deal on the national/world amateur scene, but June 16th will be my first amateur fight. Wish me luck guys!

stan · Post by **stan** » 05 Jun 2007, 16:17

Good luck, One of the most dificult things to learn is how to relax

Get your breathing going and remember even if you don't have a lot of reach the jab is the most important punch

Everthing works off the jab

ps for Amateur and Professional boxing information see this link

http://www.passion-4.net/boxing/

mac2367 · Post by **mac2367** » 05 Jun 2007, 17:13

Well thank you very much. Apparently Im fairly good sized for my size, and with me being 20 and this is my debut, so I will probably be the oldest. Im not sure if you guys follow the current scene, but I am in Rob Calloways gym, and they have alot of amateurs coming up.

Everyone says that amateur is where you get on the job training and learn the fundamentals that sparring and circuit training just cant do. I just wanted to turn pro and go from there, but they slowed me down alittle, which will end up being a good thing.

Plus, I hear that the better your amatuer record, that could help you with your purse when you turn pro

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 05 Jun 2007, 19:23

Plus, I hear that the better your amatuer record, that could help you with your purse when you turn pro

The "better your amateur record" usually equates to about 13 years experience, including national and international competitions - preferably getting on the Olympic team and winning a gold medal. The money in pro boxing isn't what it used to be 7 years ago and in order to make the big bucks you have to be Oscar or Floyd or someone of that caliber.

My advice is to box amateur for at least three years and try to get national experience, i.e. US Championships, Golden Gloves, PAL (all of which are ranking tournaments). Ringside also provides a good selection of competition.

mac2367 · Post by **mac2367** » 05 Jun 2007, 21:49

oh.... yeah Im definitely not quite that good. I know that I should go a slower route, but my goal is to turn pro by October. I know thats rushing it, but Ive always wanted to be a professional athlete, and this is my best opportunity. Alot of ppl question my decision, but I think that I can win and be competitive and improve in this sport.

zhdamistro · Post by **zhdamistro** » 05 Jun 2007, 23:08

no reason to rush it your still young. you should prolly have a couple amateur fights before you turn pro just to get the feel of it and know what your getting into.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 05 Jun 2007, 23:59

It is easy to say you are a professional boxer. It is a lot harder to demonstrate that you are a GOOD professional boxer. If you don't now how to box against a lot of different styles you are going to be in for some trouble in the pro ranks. A few national tournaments can really give you a lot of experience. I don't think a boxer should go pro until he has had AT LEAST a couple of years of amateur experience with AT LEAST several national tournaments under his belt.

mac2367 · Post by **mac2367** » 08 Jun 2007, 23:50

I definitely understand where you guys are coming, and in no means am I trying to deface or devalue boxing, whether at the amateur or pro levels. I just want to be a professional boxer, and I have the rest of my career to be the best boxer that I can be.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 09 Jun 2007, 22:58

Just remember that it is a lot harder to build a career and make ANY money in pro boxing once you have a poor record and quite a few losses - say an 8-8 record or worse.

It is a totally different thing to be a marquee boxer and suffer a few close losses in big bouts against big-name opposition. Those boxers can bounce back from a few set backs. However, even for them a few losses in a row can cost them a lot of money.

azumah · Post by **azumah** » 10 Jun 2007, 17:01

Like the second poster said, everything works off the jab. While everyone wants to win all there fights, the amatuer level offers a wonderful oppurtunity to develop your skills. You could literally have a record of 0-20, enter a local golden gloves tournament, then be a world champion a few months later. That being said, relax as much as possible and keep popping that jab.
BTW, here's a clip of my first amatuer fight. Try to keep the laughter to a minimum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWDQy597lME

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 11 Jun 2007, 00:27

azumah wrote:Like the second poster said, everything works off the jab. While everyone wants to win all there fights, the amatuer level offers a wonderful oppurtunity to develop your skills. You could literally have a record of 0-20, enter a local golden gloves tournament, then be a world champion a few months later. That being said, relax as much as possible and keep popping that jab.
BTW, here's a clip of my first amatuer fight. Try to keep the laughter to a minimum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWDQy597lME

You were the boxer who won? If so, congrats and boxing a southpaw for your first bout. I'm guessing you are a super-heavyweight. Both of you boxed better than a lot of first timers.

azumah · Post by **azumah** » 11 Jun 2007, 05:06

Dennis wrote:
azumah wrote:Like the second poster said, everything works off the jab. While everyone wants to win all there fights, the amatuer level offers a wonderful oppurtunity to develop your skills. You could literally have a record of 0-20, enter a local golden gloves tournament, then be a world champion a few months later. That being said, relax as much as possible and keep popping that jab.
BTW, here's a clip of my first amatuer fight. Try to keep the laughter to a minimum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWDQy597lME
You were the boxer who won? If so, congrats and boxing a southpaw for your first bout. I'm guessing you are a super-heavyweight. Both of you boxed better than a lot of first timers.

Thank you very much. Incidently, that was the first southpaw I ever faced. As you could probably tell from the fight, I couldn't see his left hand coming and he clocked with about 6 of them before I finaly figured out how to slip them. As far as how I looked, I give all the credit to coach Bumble Bee (Willie Briscoeray). Besides being a father figure, he's a fountain of knowledge.

azumah · Post by **azumah** » 11 Jun 2007, 05:41

To the original poster, the clip at the bottom of Pavlik-Miranda shows the importance of having a solid amatuer backround. Lennox Lewis (who I think is very underrated as a commentator) even says at the 9:42 of the clip (1:20 of round 4) that basically the difference between the two fighters is that Pavlik is more technically sound due to his amatuer experience.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ0Vy6LsivY

mac2367 · Post by **mac2367** » 15 Jun 2007, 23:31

My first fight is tomorrow, against someone who has had 2 fights before. Im not really that nervous about the fight itself more so than..... I broke my nose Tuesday in sparring. It wasnt completely shattered, as I can breathe through it, more like cracked it.

Wish me luck guys]

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 15 Jun 2007, 23:42

You are asking for trouble with your nose. Hopefully, you have good defense or your nose will start bleeding and the bout will probably get stopped.

mac2367 · Post by **mac2367** » 17 Jun 2007, 14:58

Dennis wrote:You are asking for trouble with your nose. Hopefully, you have good defense or your nose will start bleeding and the bout will probably get stopped.

Good call, you must have seen the fight before I got a chance to actually fight it

It was called in the first, Id have to say that the first or second punch that he landed was when I started to bleed. The guy had 3 fights before me, and was just bigger and stronger.

I will like to say that despite my bleeding, he didnt knock me down, my nose didnt break, and I wanted to keep fighting, so at least my heart wasnt questioned!

Ive heard of a glass jaw, but a glass nose, thats new to me

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 18 Jun 2007, 09:27

"Bleeders" are quite common. You will have to give it some time to heal. So work on defense with the mirror (those punches don't actually land) and stay away from sparring for at least a few weeks.

el_grande_mauro_mina · Post by **el_grande_mauro_mina** » 19 Jun 2007, 17:30

azumah wrote:To the original poster, the clip at the bottom of Pavlik-Miranda shows the importance of having a solid amatuer backround. Lennox Lewis (who I think is very underrated as a commentator) even says at the 9:42 of the clip (1:20 of round 4) that basically the difference between the two fighters is that Pavlik is more technically sound due to his amatuer experience.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ0Vy6LsivY

Are you fighting seniors (over 35 years old) boxing? are you planning
on turning pro? I think you would do OK!

We have Matt Skelton
over here whose 41!

Tubbz · Post by **Tubbz** » 20 Jun 2007, 00:04

Hey Mac Ive talked to you many times on these forums but never met you in person, introduce yourself to me at my next fight.I really like meeting the fans of boxing ,I myself is one of the biggest. Good job following your dream!
Kevin "Tubbz" Finley

azumah · Post by **azumah** » 20 Jun 2007, 04:56

Carlos-Wigan wrote:
azumah wrote:To the original poster, the clip at the bottom of Pavlik-Miranda shows the importance of having a solid amatuer backround. Lennox Lewis (who I think is very underrated as a commentator) even says at the 9:42 of the clip (1:20 of round 4) that basically the difference between the two fighters is that Pavlik is more technically sound due to his amatuer experience.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ0Vy6LsivY
Are you fighting seniors (over 35 years old) boxing? are you planning
on turning pro? I think you would do OK! We have Matt Skelton
over here whose 41!

Wow, thank you very much. It all depends on whether or not I can get back over to Seattle. I've been trying now for a little over two years and haven't had any luck yet. Maybe I should try and make my way over to the UK

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zhdamistro · Post by **zhdamistro** » 20 Jun 2007, 20:31

what do you guys think about my first amateur fight. think i have any potential? by the way i fight at 152 but gonna drop to 141. by the way im in the blue corner if you couldnt tell. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPbZBai4dok

el_grande_mauro_mina · Post by **el_grande_mauro_mina** » 20 Jun 2007, 21:47

zhdamistro wrote:what do you guys think about my first amateur fight. think i have any potential? by the way i fight at 152 but gonna drop to 141. by the way im in the blue corner if you couldnt tell. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPbZBai4dok

I've put a comment about your fight but I hope you had nothing to do with robbing that poor kids nachos in your other video. That was a shithouse trick which were neither big, clever or funny.

zhdamistro · Post by **zhdamistro** » 21 Jun 2007, 00:27

nah man i had nothing to do with the nachos. i know who did it but yea i thought it was kind of a shitty thing to do.

1southpaw · Post by **1southpaw** » 27 Jun 2007, 19:23

mac2367 wrote:Not a big deal on the national/world amateur scene, but June 16th will be my first amateur fight. Wish me luck guys!

how did you get on mate

mac2367 · Post by **mac2367** » 29 Jun 2007, 22:25

mac2367 wrote:
Dennis wrote:You are asking for trouble with your nose. Hopefully, you have good defense or your nose will start bleeding and the bout will probably get stopped.
Good call, you must have seen the fight before I got a chance to actually fight it It was called in the first, Id have to say that the first or second punch that he landed was when I started to bleed. The guy had 3 fights before me, and was just bigger and stronger.

I will like to say that despite my bleeding, he didnt knock me down, my nose didnt break, and I wanted to keep fighting, so at least my heart wasnt questioned!

Ive heard of a glass jaw, but a glass nose, thats new to me

I posted it earlier... lost due to blood. My nose is doing a lot better, I think. Im planning on fighting in Ringside Nationals at KCI Expo. Its the first weekend in August of something like that. Ive improved in the 1 1/2 months that Ive done it, so anoth 5 weeks will be great. Im training under Rob Calloway and Jason Redmond, so Ive got some good mentors.

Thanks guys/gals for the guidance and good luck

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