Emile Griffith is gay

Rng Anncr · Post by **Rng Anncr** » 15 Jun 2007, 17:42

When did Prince Harry come out?

The Irish Assassin · Post by **The Irish Assassin** » 15 Jun 2007, 18:57

Rng Anncr wrote:When did Prince Harry come out?

read the entire post it says since he came out as a ginger, that meaning he has pale skin, freckles and most importantly red hair

WayoftheCass · Post by **WayoftheCass** » 16 Jun 2007, 03:20

Gran Torino wrote:
oliverfennell wrote:According to Boxing News, he has come out and will be part of a gay pride event next weekend.

First high-profile boxer to my knowledge who has ever come out.

Why is this thread worthy? Who gives a shit about what this man does in private in his personal life?

A bit high and mighty there.
At the end of the day its an issue. If your truly okay with it then you won't have a problem with people discussing it.
I think its an intersting topic personally. In the modern day in certain countries homosexuality has gone from social pariah status to being the thing to do over the last 20 years.
Boxing is a working class man's sport and has never much concerned itself with liefstyle fashions etc so its interesting to me that the two have become mixed here purely as a matter of trivia.
Emille being gay came as news to me also though my father says it was a well known fact since his bout with Paret.
For years there were rumours surrounding Lennox Lewis but they appear to be unfounded.
Its interesting to hear that other fighters have also come under suspicion. Certainly it is unusual. Boxing is one of those sports you just automatically assume is alligned with hetrosexuality exclusively so any isntances of exceptions to the rule are always going to attract interest and curiosity. So discuss away.

bollox · Post by **bollox** » 16 Jun 2007, 06:36

Couldn't give a toss about fighters that are gay although it's certainly a point of interest. Being gay whilst punching another man for a living are quite an eclectic mix

There was a high profile fighter decades ago that was also supposed to have been gay (Kid Chocolate maybe. although I could be wrong)

lowersmiths · Post by **lowersmiths** » 16 Jun 2007, 07:15

isn't JMM boxing out of the same camp as Griffith?

not 100% sure but that is the rumour going around. i remember there being some rather incriminating photos too.

Minotauro · Post by **Minotauro** » 16 Jun 2007, 07:23

Yeh he came out a while ago in 1992 he was beaten up outside a gay bar and hospitalised. Also wasn't Panama Al Brown gay too?

Minotauro · Post by **Minotauro** » 16 Jun 2007, 07:25

bollox wrote:Couldn't give a toss about fighters that are gay although it's certainly a point of interest. Being gay whilst punching another man for a living are quite an eclectic mix

There was a high profile fighter decades ago that was also supposed to have been gay (Kid Chocolate maybe. although I could be wrong)

I don't think Kid Chocolate was gay I'm pretty sure it was Panama Al Brown.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 16 Jun 2007, 07:31

npal wrote:
pugilisticprofessor wrote:
jmanginell wrote: I've heard the same thing, but I don't think its official...he's never come out.
Curry is only gay when there is crack cocaine on the line, im serious.
Now that you mention that... Aaron Pryor when there is crack on the line.

Pryors been clean for over 10 years you fool!!... go back to the current scene where you belong...

bollox · Post by **bollox** » 16 Jun 2007, 07:52

Minotauro wrote:
bollox wrote:Couldn't give a toss about fighters that are gay although it's certainly a point of interest. Being gay whilst punching another man for a living are quite an eclectic mix

There was a high profile fighter decades ago that was also supposed to have been gay (Kid Chocolate maybe. although I could be wrong)
I don't think Kid Chocolate was gay I'm pretty sure it was Panama Al Brown.

I stand corrected

enrique · Post by **enrique** » 16 Jun 2007, 14:04

Chocolate wasn't gay. He was supreme playboy.

Griffith is openly gay and for many years it has been said that Panama Al Brown was gay. I have also heard mentioned -whether true or not- that Phil Terranova and Lou Nova were also gay.

barry · Post by **barry** » 17 Jun 2007, 05:26

>>>Who gives a shit about what this man does in private in his personal life?<<<

All the right-wing, christian-reich hate-mongers in this country care...they are never content with minding their own business and always choose to stick their noses into someone else's...I wonder who will be sweating more when judgement comes...the homosexual, or the supposed christian person who always ridicules homosexuals, among others...I bet the supposed christian has more to worry about in the end and they will quickly realize that their "holier-than-thou" behavior does not cut it in God's country!!!

As far as Griffith being gay...I could care less. I'm certainly never going to see what goes on behind his closed doors, nor do I care, so it's none of my business, nor anyone else's!

tagjohnson · Post by **tagjohnson** » 17 Jun 2007, 16:14

I know that having AIDS doesn't mean you are gay but didn't Esteban Dejesus die of AIDS? And I believe that Tommy Morrison is HIV positive. Once again I know having AIDS doesn't mean you are gay but I understand that a huge percentage of men with AIDS in this country contracted it through homosexual contact.

J · Post by J » 18 Jun 2007, 08:56

tagjohnson wrote:I know that having AIDS doesn't mean you are gay but didn't Esteban Dejesus die of AIDS? And I believe that Tommy Morrison is HIV positive. Once again I know having AIDS doesn't mean you are gay but I understand that a huge percentage of men with AIDS in this country contracted it through homosexual contact.

AND BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS / DIRTY NEEDLES AND WAIT FOR IT........

straight sex as well.

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 18 Jun 2007, 10:43

Tyson is most likely a switch hitter.

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 18 Jun 2007, 11:13

Seamus wrote:Tyson is most likely a switch hitter.

Unbelievable.

Knucklez · Post by **Knucklez** » 18 Jun 2007, 11:49

tagjohnson wrote:I know that having AIDS doesn't mean you are gay but didn't Esteban Dejesus die of AIDS? And I believe that Tommy Morrison is HIV positive. Once again I know having AIDS doesn't mean you are gay but I understand that a huge percentage of men with AIDS in this country contracted it through homosexual contact.

Didn't Ismael Laguna have AIDS too?

tagjohnson · Post by **tagjohnson** » 18 Jun 2007, 12:43

I didn't know about Ishmael. And uh J? I know that AIDS can be spread by means other than homosexual contact. That's why I mentioned it. Twice. Thanks anyway.

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 18 Jun 2007, 13:36

Nile4000 wrote:
Seamus wrote:Tyson is most likely a switch hitter.
Unbelievable.

You'd have to be somewhat unconventional to want to f*** allegedly "in the @ss til you love me"

WayoftheCass · Post by **WayoftheCass** » 19 Jun 2007, 22:30

J wrote:
tagjohnson wrote:I know that having AIDS doesn't mean you are gay but didn't Esteban Dejesus die of AIDS? And I believe that Tommy Morrison is HIV positive. Once again I know having AIDS doesn't mean you are gay but I understand that a huge percentage of men with AIDS in this country contracted it through homosexual contact.

AND BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS / DIRTY NEEDLES AND WAIT FOR IT........

straight sex as well.

True but indeed a man getting HIV after vaginal unprotected sex with a women is extremely rare unless the female has suffered lacerations or open wounds in that particular area. Most sexually transmitted cases take place after anal unprotected sexual intercourse, whether with a male or a female.
The reason is obvious. The lack of lubrication often leads to blood vessels on the tissue surface of the anus and penis being ruptured and then you have the exchange of bodily fluids etc and bobs your uncle.
Either Tommy was just one of the few who did get it from a straight sex or he engaged in anal sex with a female partner or used needles to shoot up.
But I have never heard any suggestion he got it from a male partner.
Does anyone know if it has finally been confirmed if he is HIV positive or not? Last I heard it was a cert he was. :(

MEISINGER · Post by **MEISINGER** » 20 Jun 2007, 08:30

Decagon wrote:
oliverfennell wrote:
Nile4000 wrote: Unbelievable.
You'd have to be somewhat unconventional to want to f*** allegedly allegedly allegedly "in the @ss til you love me"
I'm sure that in his youth, Tyson was face down on a pillow at some point. People aren't born that fucked up. And don't tell me that someone with the sexual appetite of Mike Tyson goes to jail and doesn't have sex.

And about Esteban DeJesus being gay... He was a murderer? Isn't that worse?

decagon i have to agree.no one is going to tell me that in his prison stint he didn't pack some fudge.

tagjohnson · Post by **tagjohnson** » 20 Jun 2007, 13:43

Although anal sex is thought to make transmission of the HIV virus easier for reasons previously mentioned, the unbelievable levels of promiscuity in the gay community is certainly the real culprit. I believe that Randy Schiltz, who died of AIDS himself wrote in his book, The Band Played On that the members of the gay bath house community in San Franciso were averaging 50 different sexual partners per year. I did a paper on gay male sexual patterns when I was working on my masters and even gay males who considered themselves in committed relationships were averaging 8 partners per year. That was just one study (in Holland) of course, but I flat out could not find ANY legitimate study in ANY referreed journal that did not find gay males as a group to be extraordinarily promiscous. A majority of studies showed gay males averaging 10 to 20 partners per year. If you are promiscous sexually and you have sex with other people who are equally or even more so you are going to catch something. Gay males also have higher rates of other sexually transmitted diseases like gonnorhea. What made this so deadly is that someone can be infected for years with the HIV virus without showing signs. So many of the victims of AIDS in the early to mid 80's had been infected years before. So you have a population (gay males) who were infected and had been spreading their infection for years before anyone knew there was such a thing as AIDS. Regarding a previous question Tommy Morrison is indeed HIV positive and has not revealed the source of his infection that I know of.

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 20 Jun 2007, 16:43

Decagon wrote:
oliverfennell wrote:
Nile4000 wrote: Unbelievable.
You'd have to be somewhat unconventional to want to f*** allegedly allegedly allegedly "in the @ss til you love me"
I'm sure that in his youth, Tyson was face down on a pillow at some point. People aren't born that fucked up. And don't tell me that someone with the sexual appetite of Mike Tyson goes to jail and doesn't have sex.

And about Esteban DeJesus being gay... He was a murderer? Isn't that worse?

You think that Tyson was sexually assaulted?

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