Challenging the upper age limit in amateur boxing?

el_grande_mauro_mina · Post by **el_grande_mauro_mina** » 16 Jun 2007, 13:09

Scrap wrote:Carlos, theres a very good reason for the age limit. get the facts.

You come out with 'facts' which have nothing to do with age and everything to do with neurology. Sure some fighters might have brain damage the older they get but isn't that the reason why we have medicals? And did anyone here have a brain scan before they got their amatuer card?

Why shouldn't a fit 35 year old with no neurogical problems be banned from boxing? boxing is the only olympic sport with a age limit... it is disgraceful... as for your comment about the ABA not having to change their rules... didn't Jane Couch OBE take the ABA on in court for her right to box as an amateur and win?

I'm all for boxers having to pass stringent medcials but the 35 year old limit for active boxers is balderdash.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 16 Jun 2007, 13:28

The ABA need to lose all the old codgers In Blazers and the ABA would probably have better standards as long as the younger members weren't taught to be loyal to the old crap.

Scrap · Post by **Scrap** » 16 Jun 2007, 14:39

From the source I got it The story I found interesting at the time. To win the Cuban championship is a feat in itself, for all extent and purposes they are pros. It will be interesting when the curtan finally comes down how the pscyhcodinamics affect performance we can but wait and see.

Scrap · Post by **Scrap** » 16 Jun 2007, 14:51

Carlos, Amatuers dont have brain scans only the pros they are very expensive Caton give me an alternative. Im not disagreeing with you lot just trying to tell you how it is, its all right being critical give me something concrete as a alternative but change for the better please.

Scrap · Post by **Scrap** » 16 Jun 2007, 15:05

Carlos, Jane took the BBB ofC on not the ABA. While were on the subject I have nothing against White Collar Boxing For the over 35s seen it know the people that run it great people and the refs handle it well try that it looks a nobble. but it will be interesting if injury occurs.

el_grande_mauro_mina · Post by **el_grande_mauro_mina** » 16 Jun 2007, 15:32

Scrap wrote:Carlos, Amatuers dont have brain scans only the pros they are very expensive Caton give me an alternative. Im not disagreeing with you lot just trying to tell you how it is, its all right being critical give me something concrete as a alternative but change for the better please.

Exactly! amateurs don't have a brain scan in the medical so the neurological slant isn't a factor in the reasons for a cut off.

The IABA even banned Felix Savon from competing in Athens due to
their silly rule... the Cubans tried to get it overturned but to no avail.

I agree with Kanton that there are too many old gits who are running
the show in the IABA and are trying to ruin the sport... their maximum
weight limit for super heavy at 14st 12lbs being the most ridiculous.

el_grande_mauro_mina · Post by **el_grande_mauro_mina** » 16 Jun 2007, 15:34

Scrap wrote:Carlos, Jane took the BBB ofC on not the ABA. While were on the subject I have nothing against White Collar Boxing For the over 35s seen it know the people that run it great people and the refs handle it well try that it looks a nobble. but it will be interesting if injury occurs.

I remember Jane Couch saying she was banned from sparring in ABA affliated gyms never mind competing... I could be wrong but I thought she took the ABA to court also?

Scrap · Post by **Scrap** » 16 Jun 2007, 15:46

Carlos, I left the ams many moons ago for the reasons you quote Im not by any means a fan of the set up. But if there is to be change it must be to improve what we have. Now those old geezers were once young and I know many who had dreams of a change when they first appeard many years ago. Ufortunatly peoples standards never stay the same like everything they change as you will given time and hindsight.

streathamdave · Post by **streathamdave** » 20 May 2012, 10:24

I am a 34 year old mature student at a UK university. I have no previous boxing experience but am in good health. Today I decided that I wanted to have a look at taking up boxing and maybe box for the Uni. I have missed the date for this year's Uni comp entry but could still enter next year by which time I will be 35. I won't be allowed to enter because as soon as you turn 34 you are deemed by the ABA too old. This seems to me age discrimination writ large. I don't want to be limited to fighting boxers of my same age I want the chance to be British University champion. Those that tell me that as a novice and at my age it would be impossible to win this title might be right. I'm hoping that strength is genetic. My Father (who is 66) is a GB masters Power lifter. He is British and Commonwealth champion and 2nd in the World for over 60's. He competes in an age class internationally but domestically is not restricted to this. He is Yorkshire and North East of England Bench press champion and came 4th in English Championships. He has inspired me to involve myself in a sport whilst I am still young but it would seem not young enough for the ABAE.

dbf · Post by **dbf** » 21 May 2012, 17:58

There is a masters category from 35-40.

AIBA set the age ruling on the grounds of safety (whether founded or not) and the ABAE had chosen to follow. The masters were brought in two seasons ago. I wouldn't say it's particularly taken off.

Coco · Post by **Coco** » 21 May 2012, 18:27

Tell the AIBA you are from Luxembourg

damianhucker1 · Post by **damianhucker1** » 22 May 2012, 07:09

Fat Git wrote:
Scrap wrote:Carlos, Jane took the BBB ofC on not the ABA. While were on the subject I have nothing against White Collar Boxing For the over 35s seen it know the people that run it great people and the refs handle it well try that it looks a nobble. but it will be interesting if injury occurs.
I remember Jane Couch saying she was banned from sparring in ABA affliated gyms never mind competing... I could be wrong but I thought she took the ABA to court also?

Not sure on the details of what you mention but....

When i boxed 2 black kids came to our gym , they got put in to spar with other novices to have a look at them and totally destroyed them all , the trainer asked me who they was , i replied "Lizzie and Lisa Corner " (two sisters but looked like teenage boys) and they got banned from the gym that night as girls werent allowed to box , this would have been around 1995 ish

Scrap · Post by **Scrap** » 22 May 2012, 19:02

They were taking something, that was more than Painkillers

. Its surprising that not many Cubans have been exceptional in the Pros, looking at there Pedigree as Amateurs the concern should be that which support the Head, the upper Vertebrae, and the repercussions that can have on Health, as you well know

Scrap · Post by **Scrap** » 22 May 2012, 19:05

Punchy Joe wrote:Scrap, your just posting a load of rumour and rubbish, not one shred of evidence to back any of it up
Most Cuban boxers over 26 would fail a MRI, I find that very, very hard to believe.
Pain Killers don’t stop brain damage or stop you getting hurt from a punch or getting knocked out, they would only help aches and pains after a bout, so I don’t understand what that’s got to do with anything??
It’s a load of rubbish...............

ApolloCreed · Post by **ApolloCreed** » 22 May 2012, 20:26

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Has something come out about Cuban boxers?

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