The ATG Light-Heavyweight Tournament

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 16 Jun 2007, 22:49

Four matches per 'round'. These are all hypothetical matches, no computer usage unless BoxBuzz wants to do that for shits and giggles. These are 20 names rounded up, some you may know, some are old school and some are new, some you might not know.

This will all go very much like the tournament Jezzamundo is doing, with a group rating A-F, A of course being the top of the class and F being the absoloute worse of the ATG's [the 'A' group will just be the top ranked man in the tournament, the other groups will be more than one].

First four matches:

Archie Moore vs Harold Johnson

Tommy Loughran vs John Henry Lewis

Mike McTigue vs Joey Maxim

George Carpentier vs Maxie Rosenbloom

Votes will be tallied on the next Sunday. 8)

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 16 Jun 2007, 23:16

Very interesting pick with the Moore fight Decagon...can I ask why you chose Moore to kayo Johnson? I think Johnson, personally, had just as good a success against HW's as Moore did, so I think he could have taken Moore's shots.

Plus, the two men fought eachother 4 or 5 times, and all but one went the distance.

Johnson was a good fighter, won decisions over Ezzard Charles and beat men like Satterfield, Bivins, Gudoy, Valdes, Slade, Whitehurst...I mean the list goes on and on.

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 17 Jun 2007, 23:00

Lol, I suspect u been drinking again Decagon...but am sure u have ur reasons

My picks?

Archie Moore wins via split decision over Harold Johnson

Tommy Loughran wins via a close, but unaminous decision over John Henry Lewis

Joey Maxim wins via a close, boring, but unaminous decision over Mike McTigue

Maxie Rosenbloom wins via unaminous decision over the french war hero George Carpentier in the most exciting bout of the three previous ones held, slapping 'The Human Orchid' silly for 15 rounds, though he himself was dropped late in the fight.

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 17 Jun 2007, 23:18

Archie Moore WUD 15 Harold Johnson
Tommy Loughran WSD 15 John Henry Lewis
Mike McTigue WSD 15 Joey Maxim
Georges Carpentier WUD 15 Maxie Rosenbloom

I Feel Fine · Post by **I Feel Fine** » 17 Jun 2007, 23:25

Well Moore did stop Johnson. As for Johnson-Charles, my understanding is that was a controversial decision, and the fight was in Johnson's hometown. Anyway I would say Moore, Loughran, Maxim, Rosenbloom all by decision.

Minotauro · Post by **Minotauro** » 18 Jun 2007, 10:03

Archie Moore TKO 14 Harold Johnson
John Henry Lewis SD 15 Tommy Loughran
Mike McTigue SD 15 Joey Maxim
Georges Carpentier UD 15 Maxie Rosenbloom

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 18 Jun 2007, 23:58

Okies...votes so far are:

5-0 for Moore over Johnson

4-1 for Loughran over Lewis

3-2 for Maxim over McTigue

3-2 for Rosenbloom over Carpentier

Keep voting people's, votes are to be tallied on Sunday

Ezzard · Post by **Ezzard** » 19 Jun 2007, 04:13

Moore UD 15
Loughran UD 15
Maxim MD 15
Rosenbloom SD 15

markl · Post by **markl** » 19 Jun 2007, 17:47

Moore ud
Loughran ud
Mctigue sd
Rosenbloom ud

Ambling Alp · Post by **Ambling Alp** » 20 Jun 2007, 09:08

Moore Dec Johnson
Loughran Dec Lewis
McTigue Dec Maxim
Rosenbloom Dec Carpentier

Grimm · Post by **Grimm** » 20 Jun 2007, 14:52

NO SPINKS????????????

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 20 Jun 2007, 19:30

Grimm....

Moore vs Johnson and the other bouts are just the first round matches...

Moore, Tunney, Charles and several others (20 fighters total to be exact) are also in this tournament including Michael Spinks.

Grimm · Post by **Grimm** » 21 Jun 2007, 12:16

HomicideHenry wrote:Grimm....

Moore vs Johnson and the other bouts are just the first round matches...

Moore, Tunney, Charles and several others (20 fighters total to be exact) are also in this tournament including Michael Spinks.

Thanks I was aboout to cry

Luigi1985 · Post by **Luigi1985** » 22 Jun 2007, 07:34

Archie Moore KO 11 Harold Johnson--- Moore was a special kind of puncher, he could hit you with every punch from every corner
Tommy Loughran UD John Henry Lewis--- Loughran was one of the best pure boxers ever, IMO a bit too much for the tough Lewi
Joey Maxim UD Mike McTigue--- although a bit unknown, underrated and almost forgotten today, Maxim would be too much with his tricky style for the Irish man
Georges Carpentier UD 15 Maxie Rosenbloom--- As a LHW, Georges was really a beast, Rosenbloom was a great boxer with great skills, but the French wouldn´t have respected his "power", he would all night throw punch after punch

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 23 Jun 2007, 20:24

Votes tallied so far:

9-0 for Moore over Johnson

8-1 Loughran over Lewis

5-4 Maxim over McTigue

6-3 Rosenbloom over Carpentier

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 23 Jun 2007, 20:54

HomicideHenry wrote:Votes tallied so far:

9-0 for Moore over Johnson

8-1 Loughran over Lewis

5-4 Maxim over McTigue

6-3 Rosenbloom over Carpentier

Moore
Loughran
McTigue
Draw

If any fights end up in a dead heat I'll offer to run a sim to break the tie.

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 25 Jun 2007, 01:06

10-0 Moore over Johnson

9-1 Loughran over Lewis

5-5 DRAW between Maxim and McTigue

7-4 Rosenbloom over Carpentier

Johnson, Lewis, Carpentier go into the "F" list...

BoxBuzz do a simulation on McTigue-Maxim to determine who moves on into the next rounds 8)

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SECOND ROUND MATCHES:

Gene Tunney vs Michael Spinks

Freddie Mills vs Bob Fitzsimmons

Bob Foster vs Roy Jones, Jr

Billy Conn vs Philadelphia Jack O'Brien

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 25 Jun 2007, 01:33

Gene Tunney WUD 15 Michael Spinks
Bob Fitzsimmons KO 7 Freddie Mills
Bob Foster KO 12 Roy Jones Jr
Philadelphia Jack O'Brien WUD 15 Billy Conn

I Feel Fine · Post by **I Feel Fine** » 25 Jun 2007, 01:40

Spinks UD Tunney
Fitzsimmons TKO 11 Mils
Foster KO 10 Jones
Conn UD O'Brien

Grimm · Post by **Grimm** » 25 Jun 2007, 13:22

Spinks Ud Tunney
Mills KO 8 Fitzsimmons
Jones Ud Foster
Conn Ud Obrien

markl · Post by **markl** » 25 Jun 2007, 20:07

Spinks md over Tunney
Fitzsimmons tko 12 Mills
Jones ko 6 Foster
Conn ud O'Brien

MEISINGER · Post by **MEISINGER** » 25 Jun 2007, 21:32

spinks,fitsimmons,conn,and jones all win by ud

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 25 Jun 2007, 21:32

Maxim vs McTigue could not have been closer!

http://www.boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... highlight=

Senya13 · Post by **Senya13** » 26 Jun 2007, 00:24

Decagon wrote:Foster is faster and stronger, but Jones is more accurate.

Foster would look like he's been slow-motioned if he faced Jones. Kinda like Jones-Hall.

Senya13 · Post by **Senya13** » 26 Jun 2007, 00:26

Tunney W-UD Spinks
Fitzsimmons W-KO6 Mills
Jones W-TKO10 Foster
Conn W-UD O'Brien