Heavyweights: Buster Douglas vs Buster Mathis

elmersalsa · Post by **elmersalsa** » 18 Jun 2007, 08:18

This would be the "Battle of the Busters"...Who wins? I pick the Douglas that beat Tyson that night.

MEISINGER · Post by **MEISINGER** » 18 Jun 2007, 08:20

i have to agree the douglas that beat tyson that night would of gave anyone fits.
imagine if he could of been that focused his entire career.

dempseyfire · Post by **dempseyfire** » 18 Jun 2007, 09:32

Mathis

I pick the guy who showed he could be pretty damn good on several nights and not just one.

Taylor · Post by **Taylor** » 18 Jun 2007, 09:44

Mathis.

DaveV17 · Post by **DaveV17** » 18 Jun 2007, 10:51

The Great John L · Post by **The Great John L** » 18 Jun 2007, 10:55

DaveV17 wrote:I would take Douglas. Mathis never impressed me. His biggest win was over George Chuvalo who had lost 14 times when Mathis beat him. The Douglas who beat hot prospect Mike Williams, former champion Trevor Berbeck, futture champion Oliver McCall, and Mike Tyson during a four fight stretch was very impressive.

Agreed. I'd say a peak well prepared Douglas was better than Mathis, and generally under-rated.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 18 Jun 2007, 14:09

The Douglas that beat Tyson beats Mathis.

Anything less, Mathis outboxes and out lasts Douglas.

dempseyfire · Post by **dempseyfire** » 18 Jun 2007, 14:27

DaveV17 wrote:I would take Douglas. Mathis never impressed me. His biggest win was over George Chuvalo who had lost 14 times when Mathis beat him. The Douglas who beat hot prospect Mike Williams, former champion Trevor Berbeck, futture champion Oliver McCall, and Mike Tyson during a four fight stretch was very impressive.

You are going to downgrade his win over Chuvalo and then pump up Buster's win over "hot prospect" Mike Williams? . . . .

Talk about bias . . . .

DaveV17 · Post by **DaveV17** » 18 Jun 2007, 16:10

dempseyfire · Post by **dempseyfire** » 18 Jun 2007, 21:50

Decagon wrote:The "Douglas that beat Tyson" is so overrated. All he really had was a good jab and a good gameplan for that one particular fight. Also, some people here are underrating Chuvalo. There's no controversy about the Quarry fight. Chuvalo knocked him down, and Quarry didn't make the count. It's not like Zach Clayton was counting in Portuguese. If you want to talk about controversy, look at Chuvalo's fight with Ellis.

This fight could go either way, even if Douglas showed up as motivated as he was against Tyson. I'd probably lean towards Douglas if he hadn't had so many shitty performances throughout his career.

He also was fighting a short, squat pressure fighter and employing the perfect fight plan to beat that style.

Tyson was a LOT different than the 6'3 dancing, shifty Mathis. Douglas's big wins (Berbick, McCall, Tyson) . . . all shorter pressure fighters.

Flump · Post by **Flump** » 19 Jun 2007, 14:20

I think this would come down to who runs out of gas first. If I had to pick a winner then I would give the edge to Douglas, he had more power and arguably a better chin.

Jaclem · Post by **Jaclem** » 19 Jun 2007, 23:05

...my money's on buster. sd...

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 21 Jun 2007, 20:54

jaclem is nostradamus...how does he do it? He's right again!

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