OK, hands up - who applied for the BN job?

el_grande_mauro_mina · Post by **el_grande_mauro_mina** » 27 Jun 2007, 15:43

Dave - Remember, he said if he ever caught you at a show that he was going to sort you out or gove you a piece of his mind?

I forget which but Buncey ends his first email to Dave 'if I ever see you at a show...' I emailed Dave back saying 'I'll come to a show with you and we'll have it out wih Bunce' because Buncey annoyed me with a piece in boxing monthly that Calazghe vs Mario Veit I on sky was better than the commonwealth title fights from Australia terrestial TV used to show in the old days and that woun me up because I thought Buncey was taking us boxing fans for mugs, but thankfully wiser heads (Daves) prevailed and it was all sorted out but I saw Buncey in a new light and I feel he writes because he does truly love the sport. He writes it for us (Boxing fans) and proabaly gets hurt when his peers criticise him and his writing.

Oliver - As for yuo winning money on the back of the Rahman shock I'll quote Chopper Read on that one 'and not a drink in it or me'

Were we the only website to predict the result? I was proud of predicitng the result but when I saw the finished article, even with your editing I knew I had a lot of work to do if I wanted to make a success of writing. You know it probably coincided with reading Bunceys email and what sacrifices he had to make to become a boxing writer.

Goz - On a hot sunny beach with the girls in bikinis walking past and you have a cold pint in your hand. The mind wanders sometimes when you think what you can and can't do. You read Buncey for example or Tony Connolly and think 'I can do better than them' and write to publications
like boxing news (ahem!

) like a latter day Yozzer Hughes 'Gizza job! I'm better than Tony Connonlly/Jim Brady' then you actually do it and the resalts are suprising, That writing isn't that easy and the subjects I would have to write about (boxing journalism hell would be wriitng about PBF or Alex Arthur) would not inspire me. I think most of us are honest about what are limitations are and in my case I didn't want it enough and it also put my personal interest of boxing under the microscope and it was a suprise that I didn't like it that much where I would want it to take over my life. It was a definite eye opener and one I'm grateful for.

el_grande_mauro_mina · Post by **el_grande_mauro_mina** » 27 Jun 2007, 16:02

~ MIKEE ~ wrote:
Coco wrote:Claude has said to me that he never looks at the forums
I wonder why? (honestly I do wonder) We arent ALL eejits lol

I think Claude has dubious views on internet boxing sites and the people who write on them. I also think he supports a rigid hierachial structure of us (the fans, the great unwashed, barrack room lawyers, smart arses, know it alls and know nothings) to his goodself and his journalistic peers who he sees as professional writers and experts of the sport.

I don't think for one moment Claude Abrahams would deign himself to write on here. I don't know why, we are the customers of his magazine. Who does he think buys his magazine? people from the trade such as boxers, managers and trainers? But they were all fans once. Every single fighter was a fan who watched fights and bought magazines. Claude can
keep his luddite attitude to the internet and internet writers but it is the internet that changing boxing more than other sport and the sooner Claude gets his head out of the sand, change his elitist attitude and get with the programme then he maybe able to write what the fans want
and thus I might start to buy BN again. At this moment in time it is he biggest rip off in British publishing.

Gilbert Odd an O.F Snelling would be turning in their grave! :(

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 27 Jun 2007, 16:41

do they share a grave?

el_grande_mauro_mina · Post by **el_grande_mauro_mina** » 27 Jun 2007, 16:51

harrygreb wrote:do they share a grave?

Who knows harrygreb, why not?...

I could have told you when I was 16 years old along with the IBF minimumweight top 10 but now my interest in the sport has waned and have forgot a lot of my knowledge... it has been known for people to be in family or mass graves though! :P

If you leave your question on here for Claude Abrahams or Spud Woollatt
I'm sure they will be happy to anwser!

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 27 Jun 2007, 17:27

Carlos-Wigan wrote:
harrygreb wrote:do they share a grave?
Who knows harrygreb, why not?... I could have told you when I was 16 years old along with the IBF minimumweight top 10 but now my interest in the sport has waned and have forgot a lot of my knowledge... it has been known for people to be in family or mass graves though! :P

If you leave your question on here for Claude Abrahams or Spud WoollattI'm sure they will be happy to anwser!

Spud Woollatt - handsome, intelligent, charismatic. A fekkin legend. What happened to his old mate (Hippo was it?) after they fell out and ended the double act? Hippo (?) was the Andrew Ridgely of the duo so he's probably gone back to being a nobody.

el_grande_mauro_mina · Post by **el_grande_mauro_mina** » 27 Jun 2007, 17:31

Collins2000 wrote:
Carlos-Wigan wrote:
harrygreb wrote:do they share a grave?
Who knows harrygreb, why not?... I could have told you when I was 16 years old along with the IBF minimumweight top 10 but now my interest in the sport has waned and have forgot a lot of my knowledge... it has been known for people to be in family or mass graves though! :P

If you leave your question on here for Claude Abrahams or Spud WoollattI'm sure they will be happy to anwser!
Spud Woollatt - handsome, intelligent, charismatic. A fekkin legend. What happened to his old mate (Hippo was it?) after they fell out and ended the double act? Hippo (?) was the Andrew Ridgely of the duo so he's probably gone back to being a nobody.

Hahahahahahaha...

I have pissed myself all over my leather seat. I'm gonna send you for the dry cleaning bill!

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 28 Jun 2007, 03:54

Collins2000 wrote:
Carlos-Wigan wrote:
harrygreb wrote:do they share a grave?
Who knows harrygreb, why not?... I could have told you when I was 16 years old along with the IBF minimumweight top 10 but now my interest in the sport has waned and have forgot a lot of my knowledge... it has been known for people to be in family or mass graves though! :P

If you leave your question on here for Claude Abrahams or Spud WoollattI'm sure they will be happy to anwser!
Spud Woollatt - handsome, intelligent, charismatic. A fekkin legend. What happened to his old mate (Hippo was it?) after they fell out and ended the double act? Hippo (?) was the Andrew Ridgely of the duo so he's probably gone back to being a nobody.

Can Spud survive a Hatton move back to Warren. I saw more of Spud in the build up to the Castillo fight than I did of Castillo.

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 28 Jun 2007, 04:30

Carlos-Wigan wrote: Claude cankeep his luddite attitude to the internet

As it happens, they are in the process of revamping their website. Knowledge of web publishing was one of the criteria in the job ad. I understand why they want to keep the magazine print-exclusive, but certainly they can ignore the internet no longer and there are certain things which would complement the magazine, rather than compete with it.

el_grande_mauro_mina · Post by **el_grande_mauro_mina** » 28 Jun 2007, 10:55

DavidPayne wrote:
Collins2000 wrote:
Carlos-Wigan wrote: Who knows harrygreb, why not?... I could have told you when I was 16 years old along with the IBF minimumweight top 10 but now my interest in the sport has waned and have forgot a lot of my knowledge... it has been known for people to be in family or mass graves though! :P

If you leave your question on here for Claude Abrahams or Spud WoollattI'm sure they will be happy to anwser!
Spud Woollatt - handsome, intelligent, charismatic. A fekkin legend. What happened to his old mate (Hippo was it?) after they fell out and ended the double act? Hippo (?) was the Andrew Ridgely of the duo so he's probably gone back to being a nobody.

Can Spud survive a Hatton move back to Warren. I saw more of Spud in the build up to the Castillo fight than I did of Castillo.

I didn't see any of the build up... was Woollatt getting his mug shown on the telly then? What was his official capacity?

Oh well, nothing lasts forever. Spud... I can hear the alarm clock ringing
a sure sign of the honeymoon ending and 6 o' clock starts and looking for proper work as part of the future!

Coco · Post by **Coco** » 28 Jun 2007, 11:22

Who is Spud?

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 28 Jun 2007, 11:43

Coco wrote:Who is Spud?

Please, David Payne or Ralph O'Neill answer this one!

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 28 Jun 2007, 11:49

I'll leave it to Ralph - as he has heard a Vegas guard did what we've all wanted to do....

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 28 Jun 2007, 11:54

DavidPayne wrote:I'll leave it to Ralph - as he has heard a Vegas guard did what we've all wanted to do....

What, shake him firmly by the hand and buy him a pint?

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 28 Jun 2007, 11:56

Er...no.

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 28 Jun 2007, 12:11

Can't imagine what else anybody would want to do to him.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 29 Jun 2007, 09:30

oliverfennell wrote: And boy, does he know his stuff. His column in BM in particular is unmissable.

Bloody hell, I'm amazed to hear anyone enjoys that unreadable crap he comes up with. Cod stream-of-concious ramblings that go nowhere.
I don't think he'd get a look in if it wasn't that he's a drinking buddy of Lynch.

The point of most of his articles seems to be to show himself to be more old school than anyone else. I was there...you weren't etc etc

He's always been rubbish: I remember him writing for the Telegraph, in the days when he was hanging onto Hamed's coat tails for grim life ( "I knew Naz when he was was unknown amateur - trust me!" ) before Naz dumped him.
He penned an article with the headline "Naz shows the way to beat Barrera" and this was because Jr Jones had just KO'd MAB. Yet good ol Buncey spent the whole article singing the praises of Naz, telling us how it was Hamed's visit to Jones in the dressing room before the fight that had paved the way for Junior's victory. "Hit him with the right hand Junior!"

I thought be must be slightly unbalanced back then, now I'm sure of it.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 29 Jun 2007, 09:36

oliverfennell wrote:I wonder if BN would approve of their staff posting on a public forum? Especially as things can sometimes degenerate. Then again, what's to say Claude, Tony and Daniel don't do it under a pseudonym?

No they don't. Pretty sure Tony checks the forums but doesn't post, and doesn't like the staff posting on there either. Although I believe their layout man does, ocassionaly!

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 29 Jun 2007, 09:49

MightyWarrior wrote:
oliverfennell wrote: And boy, does he know his stuff. His column in BM in particular is unmissable.
Bloody hell, I'm amazed to hear anyone enjoys that unreadable crap he comes up with. Cod stream-of-concious ramblings that go nowhere.
I don't think he'd get a look in if it wasn't that he's a drinking buddy of Lynch.

The point of most of his articles seems to be to show himself to be more old school than anyone else. I was there...you weren't etc etc

He's always been rubbish: I remember him writing for the Telegraph, in the days when he was hanging onto Hamed's coat tails for grim life ( "I knew Naz when he was was unknow amateur - trust me!" ) before Naz dumped him.
He penned an article with the headline "Naz shows the way to beat Barrera" and this was because Jr Jones had just KO'd MAB. Yet good ol Buncey spent the whole article singing the praises of Naz, telling us how it was Hamed's visit to Jones in the dressing room before the fight that had paved the way for Junior's victory. "Hit him with the right hand Junior!"

I thought be must be slightly unbalanced back then, now I'm sure of it.

I do enjoy reading Bunce's column, but only in the same sort of way I enjoy hearing Larry Merchant's final thought in the last few years on HBO. It wouldn't be the same without them - but cannot see much point of them either. If reading BM is a form of escapism from everyday life and work, then Bunce's column is escapism from the escapism.

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 29 Jun 2007, 09:54

I enjoy it when he writes about something nobody else would even think about. Even when he writes about something obvious, he gives it an angle nobody else does, or captures a feeling or an atmosphere.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 29 Jun 2007, 10:05

stujones wrote: I do enjoy reading Bunce's column, but only in the same sort of way I enjoy hearing Larry Merchant's final thought in the last few years on HBO. It wouldn't be the same without them - but cannot see much point of them either. If reading BM is a form of escapism from everyday life and work, then Bunce's column is escapism from the escapism.

I'd say Merchant borders on the brilliant. He was certainly a brilliant writer, and he's one of the few to be able to translate that into live on the fly commentary.

VERY difficult, and as a result he'll stumble a few times, but over all Larry is a different class - as I think HBO have just realised as they backtrack and keep him on board ( I hope ).

Coco · Post by **Coco** » 29 Jun 2007, 10:59

Will no-one say who spud is!!!

From what I can make out he has run a few(and ruined) some internet sites.

Seems to work as a journeyman teaboy for a few of the promoters.

And seems quite unpopular!

el_grande_mauro_mina · Post by **el_grande_mauro_mina** » 29 Jun 2007, 11:10

Coco wrote:Will no-one say who spud is!!!

From what I can make out he has run a few(and ruined) some internet sites.

Seems to work as a journeyman teaboy for a few of the promoters.

And seems quite unpopular!

He is an ex army NCO of lengthy service who saw action in such hotspots
with the RAOC in Bordon an decided to put all he learnt in the army into the world of professional boxing.

I don't know what that is yet. But he seems to have his mug everywhere nowadays. he has been banned, kicked off and departed from various internet sites as he toyed with a new career in worldwide sports media. he wasn't bad too.. he would press flesh and use his slimy charm to get well known boxing figures to post on DHB such as David Haye, Frank Maloney, Chris Aston etc. Usually warrnted/unwarranted abuse would fall on the ears of said boxing celebrities from the patrons of DHB. but fair play to Spud, he would lick the rectums of the boxng world enough to get them to come in and speak to us.

We repaid Spud by being naughty with his guests!

And now Spud hates us! and Ben Carey!

Coco · Post by **Coco** » 29 Jun 2007, 11:17

Does he have anything to do with Eastside Boxing forum?

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 29 Jun 2007, 11:20

Coco wrote:Will no-one say who spud is!!!

From what I can make out he has run a few(and ruined) some internet sites.

Seems to work as a journeyman teaboy for a few of the promoters.

And seems quite unpopular!

He is a Merchant Banker.

el_grande_mauro_mina · Post by **el_grande_mauro_mina** » 29 Jun 2007, 11:29

Coco wrote:Does he have anything to do with Eastside Boxing forum?

Yup, thats where he cut his teeth (I think)... rhino (or hippo! lol

) will b on later to tell the full story, it would make a good first BN topic for Tris Dixon