Luigi1985
Heavyweight
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by Luigi1985 » 24 Jun 2007, 10:27
Here some of my favourites:
Vito Antuofermo
Marvin Hagler
Oliver McCall
George Chuvalo
Duilio Loi
Muhammad Ali
Harry Greb
Jose Angel Napoles
Salvador Sanchez
Ezzard
Heavyweight
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by Ezzard » 26 Jun 2007, 04:13
Jake La Motta
Jaclem
Heavyweight
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by Jaclem » 26 Jun 2007, 23:13
...sandy saddler...
...and as clever as marciano was he couldn't have stayed on his toes, flicking out that lightning left jab without getting hit at least sometime, so he belongs here. that was a terrific left hook walcott got him with and he got right up ready for action. same with the right hand archie moore bombed him with.
dr_devious
Heavyweight
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by dr_devious » 27 Jun 2007, 09:58
Larry Holmes
Ray Mercer
Mike McCallum
Chris Eubank
Jaclem
Heavyweight
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by Jaclem » 27 Jun 2007, 14:03
..and let us not forget max baer....
JC
Heavyweight
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by JC » 27 Jun 2007, 15:19
Johnny Dundee
granberry
Heavyweight
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by granberry » 28 Jun 2007, 00:47
Decagon wrote: Muhammad Ali
Except when Doug Jones or Henry Cooper hit him.
Senya13
Heavyweight
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by Senya13 » 28 Jun 2007, 02:57
Ali was knocked out by old retired Jimmy Ellis during sparring.
John Dillinger
Heavyweight
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by John Dillinger » 28 Jun 2007, 07:33
Marcos Villasana
dr_devious
Heavyweight
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by dr_devious » 28 Jun 2007, 09:20
Villasana is a good call, as iron-chinned as anyone over the last 20 years.
theone
Heavyweight
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by theone » 28 Jun 2007, 17:19
Jake Lamotta
Oliver McCall
Julio Cesar Chavez
Wayne McCullough
George Chuvalo
Marvin Hagler
Harry Greb
Ray Mercer
Evander Holyfield
Jose Luis Lopez
dempseyfire
Heavyweight
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by dempseyfire » 28 Jun 2007, 20:47
Senya13 wrote: Ali was knocked out by old retired Jimmy Ellis during sparring.
Senya . . .are you now trying to insinuate Ali didn't have a great chin?
Someone who takes those shots he took from Foreman, Frazier, Shavers, Lyle, Chuvalo, Norton and doesn't get knocked out has an amazing chin.
Senya13
Heavyweight
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by Senya13 » 28 Jun 2007, 22:53
AP newswire 1977/09/22 printed in a lot of newspapers.
Plus Shavers' responce (he met Ali a week later) to such news the next day.
Alabama_Man
Heavyweight
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by Alabama_Man » 28 Jun 2007, 23:37
Senya13 wrote: 1977/09/22
Ali was old and shot by the end of 1977. You simply don't know much about boxing if you think Ali didn't have a good chin.
Senya13
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by Senya13 » 29 Jun 2007, 00:03
Re-read my two previous posts in this thread and tell me where did I say anything about Ali's chin?
I Feel Fine
Heavyweight
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by I Feel Fine » 29 Jun 2007, 20:28
Ellis sure didn't make a dent in Ali during the actual, official fight. Ali had arguably the best chin of any Heavyweight champion.
I like decagon's reasoning about Tex Cobb.
Senya13
Heavyweight
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by Senya13 » 30 Jun 2007, 05:24
Sparring and getting knocked down so hard that he doesn't remember what happened, surely does mean something. Oliver McCall, for example, had gone through hundreds of rounds of sparrings and still never was knocked down. Ali is a couple of classes below McCall where chin is concerned.
Kessler isn't a respected puncher like Liston? They are at least on par in punching power for their weight class, I'd say Kessler punches harder for a 168-pounder than Liston for a heavyweight.
elmersalsa
Heavyweight
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by elmersalsa » 01 Jul 2007, 14:14
Ken Buchanan, Ismael Laguna and Carlos Ortiz had great chins.
Roberto Duran
Kid Gavilan
Mike McCallum
Marvin Hagler
Muhammad Ali
Salvador Sanchez
George Chuvalo
Jake LaMotta
Ray Mercer
Manuel Ortiz
Had exceptional chins
Senya13
Heavyweight
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by Senya13 » 01 Jul 2007, 15:09
Most people don't know enough about Kessler to rank him correctly. But ask someone who has seen several of Kessler's fights and several Liston's fights, who punches harder for his weight class, Kessler will be ahead.
Senya13
Heavyweight
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by Senya13 » 01 Jul 2007, 23:51
Kessler is Top 5 hardest-hitting 168lb of all time. Liston is not even in Top 10 of hardest-hitting heavyweights.
Senya13
Heavyweight
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by Senya13 » 02 Jul 2007, 00:02
How many rounds did middleweight Fitz need to finally stop past his prime natural welterweight Nonpareil Jack Dempsey?
Senya13
Heavyweight
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by Senya13 » 02 Jul 2007, 00:18
With that ghost of Dempsey? Kessler beat several much better fighters than that version of Nonpareil.