Both Joe Frazier and David Tua were both famous for their left hooks and with good reason, they both won many a fight with that brutal weapon.
Now I am not talking about the fighters as a whole package in this thread just their LEFT HOOK. in isolation (well as much as you can).
Who had the better left hook between these two? Fraziers was faster, more accurate and had more 'snap' but many a good judge has stated that Tua had more brute force in his?
What do you think? With one single shot did Tua hit with more power? Even if it lacked the speed and accuracy of Fraziers?
What's with the Tua fest here? Did he announce his retirement? I may have missed it. I only ask because I don't recall seeing his name mentioned in BOTP before and now he's on two threads.
BoxBuzz wrote:What's with the Tua fest here? Did he announce his retirement? I may have missed it. I only ask because I don't recall seeing his name mentioned in BOTP before and now he's on two threads.
It's all your fault mate, your folowing quote got me thinking.
BoxBuzz wrote:Well you would have to sum up Kenny Norton as a John Ruiz peer. I just can't go there....not sure Tua had quite the punch of Foreman or Frazier either. I have to give this some deep thought.
No Prob I was just making sure I hadn't missed a press release.
Tua is an interesting case study. I don't know a lot about his management but it does seem that he missed some great opportunities. Probably by chance, but he did not seem to have that magical ingredient of luck. His story seems to center around not being at the right place at the right time and of course losing that close one with Ike.
He's a guy a lot of people beleived was destined for greater things...and then fate decided they were not going to be partners. I'm guessing he is not heading toward higher altitudes in his boxing career at this point. But with all the old fighters out there taking their shots I suppose you can't rule it out. Too bad he couldnt have arranged a fight with Briggs while he held the WBO...he might have hit paydirt.
One thing that amazes me about Frazier's left hook is how he can double it up. Frazier used it to perfection: he was more accurate with it, was more successful with it, and dominated with it.
When you think about how they might match up against each other I think this SIM makes sense. Tua may have had the heavier hook, but his lack of defense would let him down vs the real hookmeister.
ringsider wrote:Regardless of ridiculous premise or idea that this thread is based on......Tua does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Joe Frazier.
The taboo of comparing the greats vs the not so greats was violated long ago....precedent is set...there is no going back.
ringsider wrote:Regardless of ridiculous premise or idea that this thread is based on......Tua does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Joe Frazier.
The taboo of comparing the greats vs the not so greats was violated long ago....precedent is set...there is no going back.
So down that slippery slope we fall? Not I!! I will fight to maintain my position toward the top of mountain.....no matter how futile the effort maybe. I will not go into the abyss peacefully.
Decagon wrote:This thread is about as dumb as asking who was taller, Naseem Hamed or Sandy Saddler.
Well Naseem, if he's standing in the ring...and Saddler is sitting in the front row. And don't forget the altitude advantage based on being from England.
