Could You pick up a 32" TV and........
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WildWaylon
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Could You pick up a 32" TV and........
carry it up three flights of stairs, I couldnt - Not talking about LCD or plasma, I mean cathode ray tube - These things are just so bulky and weigh a ton (not literally of course), it usually takes two to move them - My daughters new boyfriend is a big guy 6 foot 4" with arms as thick as most peoples legs - He picked the TV up from the back of his van and walked 30 yards with it, and then without stopping once carried it up three flights of stairs to my daughters flat - He then smiled and asked her to put the kettle on - This guy not only has super human strength but fantastic stamina as well - We are all still totally gobsmacked, and cant believe he did it with such ease - OK it hasnt got a lot to do with boxing because he isnt a boxer but it does have a lot to do with fitness and strength, something we admire as boxing fans along with skills of course - Anyway just thought I would share the story with you and if you do happen to own a 32" TV, I wouldnt blame you for saying thats impossible.
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im sure your daughter is very grateful for his stamina !!WildWaylon wrote:carry it up three flights of stairs, I couldnt - Not talking about LCD or plasma, I mean cathode ray tube - These things are just so bulky and weigh a ton (not literally of course), it usually takes two to move them - My daughters new boyfriend is a big guy 6 foot 4" with arms as thick as most peoples legs - He picked the TV up from the back of his van and walked 30 yards with it, and then without stopping once carried it up three flights of stairs to my daughters flat - He then smiled and asked her to put the kettle on - This guy not only has super human strength but fantastic stamina as well - We are all still totally gobsmacked, and cant believe he did it with such ease - OK it hasnt got a lot to do with boxing because he isnt a boxer but it does have a lot to do with fitness and strength, something we admire as boxing fans along with skills of course - Anyway just thought I would share the story with you and if you do happen to own a 32" TV, I wouldnt blame you for saying thats impossible.
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I've carried a 32 inch TV up four flights of stairs once, it's fooking heavy, but I doubt I did it without stopping.
When I moved into my current flat, I had a couple of geezers come and move my shit for me, with a van. They carried the contents of one flat down four flights of stairs, including sofas, TV, stereo computer, hundreds of books, loads of stuff. Then at the other end carried it up three flights to the new place, and only started breaking sweat towards the very end. It was fekking incredible how fit these guys were.
One was a computer programmer, who had gone from 265 lbs to 180 in four months of doing the job, and he said he had never felt as good in his whole life, and he was about 38 and had been a real slob before, and only took the job because he wasn't getting any contracts.
They actually have new fitness regimes based on what removal men do in America, I remember reading about it. It's the awkward shape of the objects and all the twisting and manipulating the body into place that apparently makes it so successful.
When I moved into my current flat, I had a couple of geezers come and move my shit for me, with a van. They carried the contents of one flat down four flights of stairs, including sofas, TV, stereo computer, hundreds of books, loads of stuff. Then at the other end carried it up three flights to the new place, and only started breaking sweat towards the very end. It was fekking incredible how fit these guys were.
One was a computer programmer, who had gone from 265 lbs to 180 in four months of doing the job, and he said he had never felt as good in his whole life, and he was about 38 and had been a real slob before, and only took the job because he wasn't getting any contracts.
They actually have new fitness regimes based on what removal men do in America, I remember reading about it. It's the awkward shape of the objects and all the twisting and manipulating the body into place that apparently makes it so successful.
this story can very much relate to Boxing and 'bygone' days in general...
I watched a documentary not too many years ago about Mountain Climbing sort of, more precisely about mountain people and the Porters of these cultures. Anyway these Porters carried 'literally' great weights & bulk for miles through the mountain passes and of course were hired by western explorers and the like on expeditions...well anyway these American Bigboys were brought to do the same job, athletes and bodybuilders-endurance and health type athletes. You guessed it, they couldn't cope and were awe struck by the 'strength, endurance and skill/technic of the Porters, who by comparison were skinny little runts...
So how does this compare with boxing & bygone days, in Harder times and desperate days, as with these Porters, this was your life, your 'attitude' and "get the head down & get on with it approach" to life is not only what you did, it's what you did without question, it saw you through.
In modern times many people are big, strong and Athletic strong with apparent better training & neutrition...However for the last 40yrs or so 'most' of Western civilization have had a much cushier life and the attitude is more "F-that, I'm NOT doing that...
so Big, strong, often 'gym' bought strength is missing this attitude & state of mind, and is THE main reason Boxers of the past were generally speaking better than Boxers present and in recent years. Just as these Porters were leagues ahead of the modern American "He-men!"
I watched a documentary not too many years ago about Mountain Climbing sort of, more precisely about mountain people and the Porters of these cultures. Anyway these Porters carried 'literally' great weights & bulk for miles through the mountain passes and of course were hired by western explorers and the like on expeditions...well anyway these American Bigboys were brought to do the same job, athletes and bodybuilders-endurance and health type athletes. You guessed it, they couldn't cope and were awe struck by the 'strength, endurance and skill/technic of the Porters, who by comparison were skinny little runts...
So how does this compare with boxing & bygone days, in Harder times and desperate days, as with these Porters, this was your life, your 'attitude' and "get the head down & get on with it approach" to life is not only what you did, it's what you did without question, it saw you through.
In modern times many people are big, strong and Athletic strong with apparent better training & neutrition...However for the last 40yrs or so 'most' of Western civilization have had a much cushier life and the attitude is more "F-that, I'm NOT doing that...
so Big, strong, often 'gym' bought strength is missing this attitude & state of mind, and is THE main reason Boxers of the past were generally speaking better than Boxers present and in recent years. Just as these Porters were leagues ahead of the modern American "He-men!"
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Well I can tell you what he is most afraid of and its going back to prison - Two guys picked on him outside a nightclub a few years back and he hit one just the once - The bloke nearly died and was in hospital for weeks - He wont go clubbing and only drinks in the safer pubs so as to avoid trouble - His size went against him in court along with his skinhead hairstyle - One of the nicest guys you could ever meet but awesome to look at - Have to ask him about spiders.Goz wrote:My mums got an old style 26" tv which I carried up two flights of stairs when I got it for her but I was knackered after.
Bet your daughters boyfriend is scared of spiders or chinny though!
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big guys are never going to have the stamina though of some wiry little sod who has grown up at altitude, and who has spent his whole life perfecting his job. A lot of it is about how you distribute the weight, not brute strength. Most people who grow up at altitude have genetic pjimglen wrote:this story can very much relate to Boxing and 'bygone' days in general...
I watched a documentary not too many years ago about Mountain Climbing sort of, more precisely about mountain people and the Porters of these cultures. Anyway these Porters carried 'literally' great weights & bulk for miles through the mountain passes and of course were hired by western explorers and the like on expeditions...well anyway these American Bigboys were brought to do the same job, athletes and bodybuilders-endurance and health type athletes. You guessed it, they couldn't cope and were awe struck by the 'strength, endurance and skill/technic of the Porters, who by comparison were skinny little runts...
So how does this compare with boxing & bygone days, in Harder times and desperate days, as with these Porters, this was your life, your 'attitude' and "get the head down & get on with it approach" to life is not only what you did, it's what you did without question, it saw you through.
In modern times many people are big, strong and Athletic strong with apparent better training & neutrition...However for the last 40yrs or so 'most' of Western civilization have had a much cushier life and the attitude is more "F-that, I'm NOT doing that...
so Big, strong, often 'gym' bought strength is missing this attitude & state of mind, and is THE main reason Boxers of the past were generally speaking better than Boxers present and in recent years. Just as these Porters were leagues ahead of the modern American "He-men!"
physiological differences which enable them to cope better with the conditions.
You see women in African countries carrying fekking huge weights balanced on their heads, it's not that they are amazingly strong (their necks are probably pretty strong though), they are transferring all of that weight straight down their spine and through their spine to the ground.
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Ask him nicely for fekks sake.WildWaylon wrote:Well I can tell you what he is most afraid of and its going back to prison - Two guys picked on him outside a nightclub a few years back and he hit one just the once - The bloke nearly died and was in hospital for weeks - He wont go clubbing and only drinks in the safer pubs so as to avoid trouble - His size went against him in court along with his skinhead hairstyle - One of the nicest guys you could ever meet but awesome to look at - Have to ask him about spiders.Goz wrote:My mums got an old style 26" tv which I carried up two flights of stairs when I got it for her but I was knackered after.
Bet your daughters boyfriend is scared of spiders or chinny though!
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Luxury. I once had to carry a television 600 yards wide up 16,000 flights of stairs. Backwards. Then I remembered I left the DVD player - 4.2 tonnes it weighed (it was a portable) down t'stairs, so down I went for that. Of course I still had 600 yard telly in me other hand, but I made do in t'end.I've carried a 32 inch TV up four flights of stairs once, it's fooking heavy, but I doubt I did it without stopping.
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I'm not a topper. But when he was about 30 my dad carried a 3 seater sofa up two storeys on a ladder to get in onto my nans balcony and into her flat. It was too big to get in her front door.WildWaylon wrote:carry it up three flights of stairs, I couldnt - Not talking about LCD or plasma, I mean cathode ray tube - These things are just so bulky and weigh a ton (not literally of course), it usually takes two to move them - My daughters new boyfriend is a big guy 6 foot 4" with arms as thick as most peoples legs - He picked the TV up from the back of his van and walked 30 yards with it, and then without stopping once carried it up three flights of stairs to my daughters flat - He then smiled and asked her to put the kettle on - This guy not only has super human strength but fantastic stamina as well - We are all still totally gobsmacked, and cant believe he did it with such ease - OK it hasnt got a lot to do with boxing because he isnt a boxer but it does have a lot to do with fitness and strength, something we admire as boxing fans along with skills of course - Anyway just thought I would share the story with you and if you do happen to own a 32" TV, I wouldnt blame you for saying thats impossible.
He was a gymnast at school and in his late teens and did some powerlifting at the same time.
He's only 5'8 and would have been about 12 stone at the time.
He's 57 next month. I might get my nan to ring him to tell him she's changing her sofa. Shes 89 now.
i know what you mean. my daughter is nearly 20 and if i see her out with a fella i just want to deck the twat as i know what his intentions are......he is a bloke after all !!WildWaylon wrote:Its something Dads would rather know nothing about - They do look a funny couple I have to say, she being skinny and a full foot shorter.
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Yeah, but I forgot to mention I was dragging an elephant with me teeth at the same time.jomothepure wrote:Luxury. I once had to carry a television 600 yards wide up 16,000 flights of stairs. Backwards. Then I remembered I left the DVD player - 4.2 tonnes it weighed (it was a portable) down t'stairs, so down I went for that. Of course I still had 600 yard telly in me other hand, but I made do in t'end.I've carried a 32 inch TV up four flights of stairs once, it's fooking heavy, but I doubt I did it without stopping.
Yeah fair dues don't tell him I said he might be chinny. Please!jamesmcdonnell wrote:Ask him nicely for fekks sake.WildWaylon wrote:Well I can tell you what he is most afraid of and its going back to prison - Two guys picked on him outside a nightclub a few years back and he hit one just the once - The bloke nearly died and was in hospital for weeks - He wont go clubbing and only drinks in the safer pubs so as to avoid trouble - His size went against him in court along with his skinhead hairstyle - One of the nicest guys you could ever meet but awesome to look at - Have to ask him about spiders.Goz wrote:My mums got an old style 26" tv which I carried up two flights of stairs when I got it for her but I was knackered after.
Bet your daughters boyfriend is scared of spiders or chinny though!
This reminds me of a story in Boxing News in the 70's serialising the memoirs of Leicester manager George "How Much?" Biddles. George was returning from a show with three of his heavyweights asleep under blankets in the back of his van. He picked up a hitch-hiker, who suddenly turned nasty and demanded money. As he did so, he woke up the fighters, one of whom was Richard Dunn. The hitch-hiker, unaware anyone else was in the van, turned to face three scary-looking heavyweights, let out a scream, bolted from the van and ran for his life.
A house. Luxury. You were lucky to have a house to carry the telly into. We used to live in an old water tank in a rubbish heap. The only lifing the we did was was to lift out the 6 and a half tonnes of rotten fish that were dumped in there and woke us up every morning.jomothepure wrote:Luxury. I once had to carry a television 600 yards wide up 16,000 flights of stairs. Backwards. Then I remembered I left the DVD player - 4.2 tonnes it weighed (it was a portable) down t'stairs, so down I went for that. Of course I still had 600 yard telly in me other hand, but I made do in t'end.I've carried a 32 inch TV up four flights of stairs once, it's fooking heavy, but I doubt I did it without stopping.
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Er, did I mention a house? The 16,000 flights of stairs leads up to the Wright brothers' mark one airplane, which, when it's not crashing down to earth, needs constant refuelling to stay airborne, which means even when I pop out for the paper I have to bring back a oil tanker in me back pocket and lug a coal sack filled with oil-rich quatari sand dunes. Bearing in mind the walk to quatar and back and the 12 million tonne load on the return journey, this takes me over two hours a day. Sometimes more if the next door neighbour asks me to pick up Danny Williams from Pimlico tube station.Carbo wrote:A house. Luxury. You were lucky to have a house to carry the telly into. We used to live in an old water tank in a rubbish heap. The only lifing the we did was was to lift out the 6 and a half tonnes of rotten fish that were dumped in there and woke us up every morning.jomothepure wrote:Luxury. I once had to carry a television 600 yards wide up 16,000 flights of stairs. Backwards. Then I remembered I left the DVD player - 4.2 tonnes it weighed (it was a portable) down t'stairs, so down I went for that. Of course I still had 600 yard telly in me other hand, but I made do in t'end.I've carried a 32 inch TV up four flights of stairs once, it's fooking heavy, but I doubt I did it without stopping.
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Great replies, its amazing how many interesting comments have come out of starting this thread - Had a good laugh too, which is nice - Love the story about the man with his Mums sofa up on a ladder, my God thats something few could do - Most of us are pretty soft compared with those of long ago as somebody else pointed out - The milk maids of the 19th century were really tough girls - Two full churns on a yoke going from house to house in all weather conditions certainly took a lot of doing - By the way the 32" TV was mine, I have replaced it with a 37" LCD - What a difference, took it out of the box and put it on an oak cabinet on my own - Only problem is the awkwardness of such a large TV, weight is nothing to worry about - So much better for cleaning and decorating, they are so easy to move - With TVs getting bigger and bigger its a good job LCD and plasma have been invented - Just think you would need a fork lift to move a 50" Plus old style TV - Sound and picture quality is far, far better as well - Watched the boxing on Sky last night and it was like being there - Cant wait to see the ITV bill tonight.
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Right James, I have asked him about spiders, just for you - No, spiders are not a problem, its horses - Doesnt like the idear of being bitten by one or even worse kicked - He says they seem to sense his fear and he keeps well away from them - Didnt ask him if hes chinny, thought it best not to - His voice fascinates me (a bit like Matt Skelton) - A voice that can only come from a huge man.jamesmcdonnell wrote:Ask him nicely for fekks sake.WildWaylon wrote:Well I can tell you what he is most afraid of and its going back to prison - Two guys picked on him outside a nightclub a few years back and he hit one just the once - The bloke nearly died and was in hospital for weeks - He wont go clubbing and only drinks in the safer pubs so as to avoid trouble - His size went against him in court along with his skinhead hairstyle - One of the nicest guys you could ever meet but awesome to look at - Have to ask him about spiders.Goz wrote:My mums got an old style 26" tv which I carried up two flights of stairs when I got it for her but I was knackered after.
Bet your daughters boyfriend is scared of spiders or chinny though!
This is truly an amazing thing to see. I spent 3 weeks in Nepal a few years back, hiking in the area around Mt. Everest and we had some porters (Sherpa folks) with our group. These guys were about 5'1 to maybe 5'5 for the biggest and couldn't have been more than 130 pounds if even that. These guys would strap all of the luggage together and split it up so that each would be carrying the belongings for 4-5 folks within our group and had no problems going up and down the mountain paths, across swinging bridges, etc. What was even more surprising to me is that they mainly seemed to eat vegetables and things of that nature as there wasn't much for meat up there.jimglen wrote:this story can very much relate to Boxing and 'bygone' days in general...
I watched a documentary not too many years ago about Mountain Climbing sort of, more precisely about mountain people and the Porters of these cultures. Anyway these Porters carried 'literally' great weights & bulk for miles through the mountain passes and of course were hired by western explorers and the like on expeditions...well anyway these American Bigboys were brought to do the same job, athletes and bodybuilders-endurance and health type athletes. You guessed it, they couldn't cope and were awe struck by the 'strength, endurance and skill/technic of the Porters, who by comparison were skinny little runts...
So how does this compare with boxing & bygone days, in Harder times and desperate days, as with these Porters, this was your life, your 'attitude' and "get the head down & get on with it approach" to life is not only what you did, it's what you did without question, it saw you through.
In modern times many people are big, strong and Athletic strong with apparent better training & neutrition...However for the last 40yrs or so 'most' of Western civilization have had a much cushier life and the attitude is more "F-that, I'm NOT doing that...
so Big, strong, often 'gym' bought strength is missing this attitude & state of mind, and is THE main reason Boxers of the past were generally speaking better than Boxers present and in recent years. Just as these Porters were leagues ahead of the modern American "He-men!"
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I worked as a delivery driver for a while and had a massive TV and stand to deliver to a terraced house in the middle of a block up a 100 yd path.
I knocked to make sure the customer was in and said i'd do my best to man handle it to her door as she had nobody available to help.
I fetched the stand first, a big glass thing, flat packed but bloody heavy and was asked to put it in the front room where to my amazement sat 4 geezers drinking coffee. I was fuming and picked the telly up, walked it 90 yds at a brisk pace and (unfortunately) dropped it at the door
My point is that with a cob on and a head of steam these things can be moved quite easily
I knocked to make sure the customer was in and said i'd do my best to man handle it to her door as she had nobody available to help.
My point is that with a cob on and a head of steam these things can be moved quite easily