how good a trainer do you think oliver harrison is?.

emma · Post by **emma** » 16 Jul 2007, 10:11

good or bad?.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 16 Jul 2007, 10:19

Good. His gym is very strict, but has a relaxed atmosphear. Jamies defence has improved ten fold since JOnes 3, nothing to say he cant do the same with other fighters, although I assume your only going on Amir Khan?

SIMPLEY BEST · Post by **SIMPLEY BEST** » 16 Jul 2007, 10:23

EMMA HOW COULD YOU ASK THAT ITS LIKE ME ASKING HOW GOOD ARE YOU. BUT I WILL TELL YOU HES A TOP TRAINER HE NOS WHAT TO DO IN THE GYM & IN THE CORNER HES BIN IN THE GAME JUST AS LONG AS BILLY GRAYHAM SO DOES THAT ANSER THAT.

boxingchat · Post by **boxingchat** » 16 Jul 2007, 11:29

Maybe, but does he teach spelling?

1southpaw · Post by **1southpaw** » 16 Jul 2007, 11:39

boxingchat wrote:Maybe, but does he teach spelling?

y dooo u goo onn abaout pepauls spellinng u noo wats bein sed

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 16 Jul 2007, 11:47

It is quite a twatish thing to do, comment on peoples spelling.

Dirk Kelly · Post by **Dirk Kelly** » 16 Jul 2007, 11:48

How good do you think he is Emma?

chris s · Post by **chris s** » 16 Jul 2007, 14:00

A trainer is only as good as the fighter.

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 16 Jul 2007, 17:21

Silly question.

A coach is as good as the skill or desire of his charge. Or how he can motivate him.

I am a fat 34 year old ex amatuer, and I have never been in a gym with Oliver Harrison. So I cant pass an opinion. I would never judge him though.

From what I have seen on TV he seems very level headed and a calmimg influence on the fighter.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 16 Jul 2007, 18:37

KO Artist wrote:Silly question.

A coach is as good as the skill or desire of his charge. Or how he can motivate him.

I am a fat 34 year old ex amatuer, and I have never been in a gym with Oliver Harrison. So I cant pass an opinion. I would never judge him though.

From what I have seen on TV he seems very level headed and a calmimg influence on the fighter.

Completely agree, that factor shouldn't be under valued - I think it kept Amir undefeated record at the weekend. Khan was fucked, but we didn't see Harrison meet him half way, rush him over, and splash water all over him. Had Limond's camp seen that happen, then I think Limond would have react differently at the start of the next round - and might have got the stoppage, cause Khan was still gone.

Twinkle Toes · Post by **Twinkle Toes** » 17 Jul 2007, 03:57

Unfortunately Harrison is going to be the brunt of a lot of critiscm, even if it isn't warranted.

Personally I feel that Khan is fundamentaly flawed in the chin department - It doesn't matter who trains him, that isn't going to improve.

THEBUTCH · Post by **THEBUTCH** » 19 Jul 2007, 11:12

The results of the bouts he's been in charge of speak for themselves, but I'm not convinced yet, although it is early days and everyone has a learning curve.

Watching the Thompson-Vuma contest I felt for Thompson because the Harrison's didn't appear to be offering the lad much advice.

SIMPLEY BEST · Post by **SIMPLEY BEST** » 19 Jul 2007, 13:56

WHAT DO YOU NO NOT A LOT

m1kee50 · Post by **m1kee50** » 19 Jul 2007, 14:27

SIMPLEY BEST wrote:WHAT DO YOU NO NOT A LOT

I know where the Caps Lock is..... what do you know then? who are you? another faceless insider like boxingchat?

I am ambivalent about Harrison and most trainers - the fighter is committed or not. Trainers can motivate - An unskilled committed warrior can sometimes take out the most skillfull opponents if they are not there in spirit. The trainer can only hide flaws and polish the diamond - but it has to be a diamond in the first place.

Where was Khans head movement? I have not really seen it in 13 fights. fairly certain I did not see it AT ALL vs Limond and Drilzane, his longest/biggest fights.... what is Harrison doing about that? thats an honest question, so what do YOU know about that.....

Loynesy · Post by **Loynesy** » 19 Jul 2007, 14:33

Wales wrote:It is quite a twatish thing to do, comment on peoples spelling.

Even more twatish to comment on their lack of apostrophes.

(only joking mate)

SticknMove · Post by **SticknMove** » 19 Jul 2007, 15:04

As a pro trainer I am sure Harrison is aware of Khan’s faults especially the defensive ones. I am also sure that he is trying to iron these out in the gym. But the fact remains that Khan is not listening or is not implementing what’s being taught come fight night. And there must be a reason for that.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 20 Jul 2007, 11:02

Loynesy wrote:
Wales wrote:It is quite a twatish thing to do, comment on peoples spelling.
Even more twatish to comment on their lack of apostrophes.

(only joking mate)

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 20 Jul 2007, 12:19

He showed a very cool head when Khan came back the corner after the 6th round near disaster. Could have easily panicked and started screaming, like everyone else ringside, but instead he calmed Amir down and gave him some sound advice - stop trying so hard.

Khan came out for the 7th relaxed, started letting his hands go and turned the fight around immediately. That was a pretty impressive comeback by Khan.

theguru · Post by **theguru** » 20 Jul 2007, 17:27

better than billy graham i would say