So now we know why!!!!!!

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 18 Jul 2007, 11:25

I was at the Albert Hall for Benn/Logan, there was a TV blackout due to a dispute. The place was in an up roar - no one could believe what they had just seen. And yes, Logan was a serious puncher - he took on Carlton Warren in his next fight, who was on a bit of a roll, and Logan flattened him in two rounds.

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 18 Jul 2007, 14:43

well anyone who tries to prove benn had a poor chin by pointing to the logan fight seriously needs help. i just watched it again and logan was putting force into those shots. excellent couple of rounds.

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 18 Jul 2007, 14:48

i have just looked at who brought up benns chin and logan...ben it was you! thats not a weak chin you nutter, that was cut from chuvalo's beard!

Lightsoot · Post by **Lightsoot** » 18 Jul 2007, 17:49

harrygreb wrote:i have just looked at who brought up benns chin and logan...ben it was you! thats not a weak chin you nutter, that was cut from chuvalo's beard!

Oh Harold, I'm not a nutter

Benn's chin wasn't granite, far from it. The following all shook Nigel up:

Vincenzo Nardiello, Danny Perez, Mauro Glavano, Gerald McClellan (but hey, that's understandable, I concede!!!), Anthony Logan, Michael Watson. Chris Eubank

The following floored Nigel: Michael Watson, Anthony Logan, Sugar Boy Malinga, Doug De Witt. And Eubank legitimately stopped him, Steve Collins merely wore down an old Benn in their rematch.

Benn was a brilliant fighter, I repeat, one of the best Brits ever, but his chin was more than penetrable. Now stop being so bloody stubborn

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 18 Jul 2007, 18:49

steve689 wrote:Craig Docherty is a good shout Cannibal, he would certainly work Khan's body. As for Nigel Benn, i remember his knockdown to Anthony Logan, the two were just swinging wild hooks at each other like a bar room brawl! Then Benn got collared. The shot he KO'd Logan with was a monster if i recall.

Yeah, Craig is a good fight - even if Khan looked like a million dollars at the weekend. I think if Craig is the same fighter that lost to Arthur and Sinistin... then he is a step up from Limond. A small step, but I think he is slightly better in every department.

Coco · Post by **Coco** » 18 Jul 2007, 22:48

Unbelievable commentating, Logan landed regularly and hurt Benn on a number of occasions and all this was ignored.

According to the commentating it was one way traffic, whereas Logan was winning the fight untill he got caught with the single shot.

Carbo · Post by **Carbo** » 19 Jul 2007, 00:29

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Kilburn wrote:Benn had great recovery powers. He could be badly hurt, only to come back firing venomous, accurate punches seconds later. There is a difference between this and someone who heriocally tries to find a miracle equaliser while on jelly legs.

Holyfield could do it time and time again. Calzaghe did it against Mitchell.
Calzaghe has amazing powers of recovery. Against both Mitchell and Salem, he eat absolute monster shots absolutely flush, and never saw them coming either! He seemed to get up completely recovered in both cases, which is pretty incredible given how resounding those shots were. He was up virtually at the count of one against Mitchell.

I was especially impressed with the recovery against Mitchell. First, it was against a legitimate challenger, and not just a WBO mandatory brought in to fill a date.

But more than that, it was the punch itself which was a perfectly thrown hook that can't have travelled more than nine inches. When it landed, flush on the chin, it detonated with enough force to spin the Welshman about 285 degrees. It was a beaut, and Calzaghe looked woosy for a second before getting up and resuming his bombardment. Impressive. Calzaghe's chin is very underrated.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 19 Jul 2007, 06:58

Calzaghe has a chin of absolute granite no-doubt. Not a fan of Reid, but the amount of huge right hands he shipped that night showed he had a chin of rock.... Comparable with Eubank and Collins no doubt.

Having said that, I do believe that had Mitchell been a little less careless he could have stopped Joe. He was woozy and was hurt badly again in the attack the followed the KD. By the time Mitchell got up from the KD - Joe had completely recovered... which shows his chin and recoveries powers are up there with anybody.

I don't think he was badly hurt at all vs Salem.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 19 Jul 2007, 07:07

Limond is not going to be ready for a return for some time with his injuries even if they were considering giving him one which I don't think they will be.

thepocketrocket · Post by **thepocketrocket** » 19 Jul 2007, 08:05

Shot Property Docherty would be of no real value to Khan other than a name to pad the record...

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 19 Jul 2007, 08:09

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Kilburn wrote:Benn had great recovery powers. He could be badly hurt, only to come back firing venomous, accurate punches seconds later. There is a difference between this and someone who heriocally tries to find a miracle equaliser while on jelly legs.

Holyfield could do it time and time again. Calzaghe did it against Mitchell.
Calzaghe has amazing powers of recovery. Against both Mitchell and Salem, he eat absolute monster shots absolutely flush, and never saw them coming either! He seemed to get up completely recovered in both cases, which is pretty incredible given how resounding those shots were. He was up virtually at the count of one against Mitchell.

I liked how Joe reacted in a crisis with Mitchell. That was the hardest shot he ever took and he got up and dropped the guy almost immediately. We only see the best of Calzaghe in an intense situation, which makes it so puzzling why they bring in spoilers like Salem, Jiminez and Bika. Whoever the matchmaker is should be flayed, strung up by his ears & fed to the vultures.

They have done an execrable job with the matchmaking at times. Joe seems to be a guy who gets complacent so thank fcuk for the Kessler fight.

THEBUTCH · Post by **THEBUTCH** » 19 Jul 2007, 10:10

Scott Lawton' name has been linked before. He gave Thaxton a fair argument, is a good "boxer" but is a relatively light puncher and that fits the bill for Khan.

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 19 Jul 2007, 14:45

well, mr carey, it seems you overlooked a few salient points my old china. and i'll thank you to refer in future to my proper first name, Harmsforth....

glahn · Post by **glahn** » 19 Jul 2007, 14:53

The Calzaghe knockdown against Mitchell was kinda funny because when he starts to get up - which is almost straight away - he actually looks a bit gone. He gets up very robotically... but then he seems to be recovered in a matter of seconds. Very impressive, that.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 19 Jul 2007, 14:58

thepocketrocket wrote:Shot Property Docherty would be of no real value to Khan other than a name to pad the record...

How is Doherty shot? It seems like if you turn 27 you are shot goods.

The guy has had one or two hard fights, but plenty of gaps in his career. I cannot see why he is shot. He has simply lost to guys that are better than him... and guys who would beat Limond also.

Twinkle Toes · Post by **Twinkle Toes** » 20 Jul 2007, 04:46

I think Docherty would be a good fight for Khan - Although fighting another super featherweight would be asking for more critiscm.

I think he's a small step up from Limond, or at the very least on par with Willie.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 20 Jul 2007, 07:07

Twinkle Toes wrote:I think Docherty would be a good fight for Khan - Although fighting another super featherweight would be asking for more critiscm.

I think he's a small step up from Limond, or at the very least on par with Willie.

Very true, however - whilst I don't know the ins and out of either... I would imagine the Doherty would have have been struggling more to make Super Feather than Willie. He certainly appears to be bigger.

Lightsoot · Post by **Lightsoot** » 20 Jul 2007, 07:56

harrygreb wrote:well, mr carey, it seems you overlooked a few salient points my old china. and i'll thank you to refer in future to my proper first name, Harmsforth....

Terry and Harmsforth

I haven't overlooked them, I've just given my views which differ from yours though Terry I'd agree with your "Not Hagler but by no means Hide" summing up.

1southpaw · Post by **1southpaw** » 20 Jul 2007, 10:52

ive heard peter mc'donagh might be fighting khan next

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 20 Jul 2007, 12:30

I thought McDonagh had retired?