OT - Last Man Standing

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 18 Jul 2007, 09:30

Bring back Pug Fights

did anyone else have those when they were kids? You used to get a whippy stick from a tree and then get a bit of Pug (Clay/mud) on the end and fire it as hard as you could at you enemy.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 18 Jul 2007, 09:35

Seen it advertised but not given it a go - presume its good then ?

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 18 Jul 2007, 09:47

I'll have to have a look at it, i've seen the stick fighting B4, think it might have been on the series 'Tribe' which is also well worth a look at if you get the chance.

Is the Mongolian wrestling when you get covered in cooking oil? or that might be the Turkish wrestling. I've seen it featured on Transworld sport.
They will have to be strong blokes to compete in that, plus there is alot of national pride at stake for the Mongolian wrestlers, who would want to lose at the national sport to a foreigner.

Podmore_Birmingham · Post by **Podmore_Birmingham** » 18 Jul 2007, 09:53

Old bones Ian wrote:I'll have to have a look at it, i've seen the stick fighting B4, think it might have been on the series 'Tribe' which is also well worth a look at if you get the chance.

An excellent programme is Tribe. I remember the episode when the presenter, explorer Bruce Parry, wanted to participate in the stick fighting. He tried but was woefully inept when they tried to teach him and it was decided that he shouldn’t have a go in a real competition.

A good thing as he would have lost an eye at best.

I haven't seen Last Man Standing yet but have seen it given the hype treatment on BBC3.

Tom Podmore.

dr_devious · Post by **dr_devious** » 18 Jul 2007, 10:48

Ive seen most of the Last Man Standing series and its very good, definitely better than most of the reality tv crap. Id definitely recommend it

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 18 Jul 2007, 11:20

Podmore_Birmingham wrote:
Old bones Ian wrote:I'll have to have a look at it, i've seen the stick fighting B4, think it might have been on the series 'Tribe' which is also well worth a look at if you get the chance.
An excellent programme is Tribe. I remember the episode when the presenter, explorer Bruce Parry, wanted to participate in the stick fighting. He tried but was woefully inept when they tried to teach him and it was decided that he shouldn’t have a go in a real competition.

A good thing as he would have lost an eye at best.

I haven't seen Last Man Standing yet but have seen it given the hype treatment on BBC3.

Tom Podmore.

Yeah tribe was an excellent show. Especially the one where he stayed with the people in Papua who lived in a tree house. It was very moving that, when he came to leave they seemed genuinely upset and they made a strange mornful sound.

I remember also the bit where they tried to 'invert' his cock, by pushing it in, and he was having not a bar of it, quite rightly in my opinion.

That was by far the best episode I saw, cock inverting notwithstanding.

Podmore_Birmingham · Post by **Podmore_Birmingham** » 18 Jul 2007, 13:41

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Yeah tribe was an excellent show. Especially the one where he stayed with the people in Papua who lived in a tree house. It was very moving that, when he came to leave they seemed genuinely upset and they made a strange mornful sound.

I remember also the bit where they tried to 'invert' his cock, by pushing it in, and he was having not a bar of it, quite rightly in my opinion.

That was by far the best episode I saw, cock inverting notwithstanding.

I remember that well. Strange stuff. I’ve always liked that Bruce Parry gets involved in everything, except the cock inverting, and brings his own food, so not to deplete their meagre supplies.

Does anyone remember that time Bruce had to eat hallucinogenic tree bark? He was really ill for about 48 hours. The locals swore by the stuff but Parry was being sick, then grinned at the camera and then continued to be sick again.

My favourite one was when he visited the tribes that hated one another - Boume and the Nyangatan (sp). One was in series one and the other in series two. Both painted each other as bad guys but they both had their own charms.

Tom Podmore.

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 18 Jul 2007, 19:05

Prospects. Now that was a show.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 19 Jul 2007, 03:43

there's a new series of Tribe this autumn.
What i like about the series , is Bruce doesn't pretend to know all about whats going on, some of the time he looks bewildered and out of place.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 19 Jul 2007, 05:51

Yeah I like the way Bruce does actually try to become one of the tribe, he hunts with them, fishes with them, helps them with whatever work it is they do, despite the physical dangers, but then he's a pretty tough bloke, he's an explorer and former Royal Marine physical training instructor. In fact, just looked it up, but he was the youngest ever PT instructor, and went on to be the bloke in charge of all aspects of fitness of the

Thing is, he doesn't look all that much, but he's obviously a very hard physically fit bloke.

As an aside, I remember reading this thing about Ranolph Fiennes, saying how normally, he didn't really do much exercise at all, but would just do go out and start running like a madman before he was going on an expedition. He had a quadruple bypass surgery, and went out doing ultra marathons something like 8 weeks later!

Podmore_Birmingham · Post by **Podmore_Birmingham** » 19 Jul 2007, 05:56

jamesmcdonnell wrote:As an aside, I remember reading this thing about Ranolph Fiennes, saying how normally, he didn't really do much exercise at all, but would just do go out and start running like a madman before he was going on an expedition. He had a quadruple bypass surgery, and went out doing ultra marathons something like 8 weeks later!

Ranolph Fiennes’ doctor did those marathon’s with him… he was carrying the defiblarator. True Story.

Tom Podmore.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 19 Jul 2007, 06:05

jamesmcdonnell wrote: Thing is, he doesn't look all that much, but he's obviously a very hard physically fit bloke.

As an aside, I remember reading this thing about Ranolph Fiennes, saying how normally, he didn't really do much exercise at all, but would just do go out and start running like a madman before he was going on an expedition. He had a quadruple bypass surgery, and went out doing ultra marathons something like 8 weeks later!

It proves that alot of it is a mental attitude, As you say Bruce Parry doesn't look much physically , but he's got alot of mental strength.
As for Ranulph Fiennes, the bloke is a nutter.
I've read his book, and some of the stuff he got up to is crazy. He cut off his own fingertips with a saw in his shed, when he got frustrated with the pain from frostbite.
After his heart attack he did 7 marothons in 7 days , in 7 continents.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 19 Jul 2007, 06:06

He's a fekking nutter, remember him telling Clarkson in Top Gear about hacksawing his own fingers off when he got frostbite.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 19 Jul 2007, 07:36

its the way he tells his stories so matter of factly, he says about walking accross the arctic like its a stroll down the shops when interviewed.

Bear Grylls is another one, ex SAS. He broke his back in a parachute accident. Had to leave the army and spent a year in hospital. But he's come back and climbed Everest, and also the 'unclimbable' Ama Dablam.
he's also recently para glided over the Himalayas.

Podmore_Birmingham · Post by **Podmore_Birmingham** » 19 Jul 2007, 08:06

Terry D wrote:
Old bones Ian wrote:its the way he tells his stories so matter of factly, he says about walking accross the arctic like its a stroll down the shops when interviewed.

Bear Grylls is another one, ex SAS. He broke his back in a parachute accident. Had to leave the army and spent a year in hospital. But he's come back and climbed Everest, and also the 'unclimbable' Ama Dablam.
he's also recently para glided over the Himalayas.
I was at a body-building show recently and one of the guest posers had lost a leg in a very bad accident, I forget his name but he came back from his injuries and built an amazing physique.

I know who you are on about but can't remember his name. I met him at a competition in Rugby and the man is a beast.

One of my best mates is a body-builder, came third in the world champs and is only 21. He is ranked in the top ten in the world, although his type of body-buliding is quite new - no supplements allowed at all just natural built muscle.

Tom Podmore.

mickeybeard · Post by **mickeybeard** » 19 Jul 2007, 08:07

The problem with Bear Grylls is that he comes off as a bit of a chief. Always going on about how he could die at any moment. Yeah mate, if you didn't have a camera crew in attendance and helicopters on stand-by, that would probably be the case.

I'm sure he's a lovely human being and all, it's just that his face makes me want to switch channels.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 19 Jul 2007, 08:39

mickeybeard wrote:The problem with Bear Grylls is that he comes off as a bit of a chief. Always going on about how he could die at any moment. Yeah mate, if you didn't have a camera crew in attendance and helicopters on stand-by, that would probably be the case.

I'm sure he's a lovely human being and all, it's just that his face makes me want to switch channels.

I find his show pointless, it's just one big onanistic festival of 'bear grylls isn't he amazing?'

All of the tips he shows for survival, most of them seem to revolve around being an amazing mountain climber who is super fit. He showed this one where he was trapped in a gully, and he swam for 30 feet under water, then climbed a vertical shaft that was 40 feet high using his legs, despite the fact that it was as 'slippery as glass.'

Whilst Ray Mears would probably be a bore at a dinner party "These noodles remind me of the bora-bora people who live on sago palm worms...etc." At least the things he shows you are achievable by normal human beings.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 19 Jul 2007, 08:39

mickeybeard wrote:The problem with Bear Grylls is that he comes off as a bit of a chief. Always going on about how he could die at any moment. Yeah mate, if you didn't have a camera crew in attendance and helicopters on stand-by, that would probably be the case.

I'm sure he's a lovely human being and all, it's just that his face makes me want to switch channels.

He is a decent bloke, but he does ham it up a bit for the TV, i think the style of his programs he has to.

OK quick question if you were stranded on an island who would you choose to be with you out of Bear Grylls, Ray Mears, Bruce Parry and Ranulph Fiennes.

Personally i'd go for Bruce as he seems to know his stuff and also seems a laugh. Mears is a bit too serious sometimes.
Last person would be Ranulph Fiennes, if the food ran out i'm not so sure he wouldn't turn cannibal. and hunt me down.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 19 Jul 2007, 08:46

Ray Mears, he obviously loves all that shit, which would enable me to sit back and 'marvel' at the 'human swiss army knife' that is Ray Mears, while Ray brings me fish for supper, builds me a rattan bed, and builds me a lovely fire.

Podmore_Birmingham · Post by **Podmore_Birmingham** » 19 Jul 2007, 08:52

Old bones Ian wrote:
mickeybeard wrote:The problem with Bear Grylls is that he comes off as a bit of a chief. Always going on about how he could die at any moment. Yeah mate, if you didn't have a camera crew in attendance and helicopters on stand-by, that would probably be the case.

I'm sure he's a lovely human being and all, it's just that his face makes me want to switch channels.
He is a decent bloke, but he does ham it up a bit for the TV, i think the style of his programs he has to.

OK quick question if you were stranded on an island who would you choose to be with you out of Bear Grylls, Ray Mears, Bruce Parry and Ranulph Fiennes.

Personally i'd go for Bruce as he seems to know his stuff and also seems a laugh. Mears is a bit too serious sometimes.
Last person would be Ranulph Fiennes, if the food ran out i'm not so sure he wouldn't turn cannibal. and hunt me down.

Bruce would be my choice. As has been said, knows his stuff and you could have a good chat and have a laugh. And he knows how to bleed animals, so if one was to stroll on by we would be drinking blood for days.

Tom Podmore.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 19 Jul 2007, 09:33

Old bones Ian wrote: OK quick question if you were stranded on an island who would you choose to be with you out of Bear Grylls, Ray Mears, Bruce Parry and Ranulph Fiennes.

I'd swap em all for a Minogue

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 26 Jul 2007, 04:48

Well those Mongolian wrestlers put them in their place.
I think you could say that was humiliating , was it me or did they get put in with 13 year olds. And get beaten by them.

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 26 Jul 2007, 05:10

I turned it off when the bloke reached inside a life goat to stop its heart.

Nice.

I'd watched 90 seconds of it. And that was too much.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 26 Jul 2007, 05:16

Just a way of life for those Mongolian blokes i guess, you missed the worst part when they castrated some goats.
at least they don't waste any of the goat that they kill, all of it is used.

None of the competitors did well in the wrestling, only the big american won a match, and that was agianst a boy of about 13, who must of weighed 9 stone wet. When he then tried to take on one of the big guys he lasted about 10 seconds.
All the rest were beaten out of site. by boys.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 01 Aug 2007, 09:21

Caught the very end of the mongolian one, gutted, looked pretty interesting.

Good idea for a show actually, I like the premise and the fact that they visit all these cultures who all have their own ideas of sport and fighting.

I wonder will we see any Kabbadi, or is it Qabaddi...? Indian British Bulldog.....brilliant.