Pan Am Games Results [SPOILERS]

emile · Post by **emile** » 20 Jul 2007, 15:58

Things are underway [SPOILERS]

I'll update as they come in

July 20

48kg Oscar Negrete (Colombia) d Richard Lopez (Paraguay) 25-7
48kg Luis Yanez (USA) d Paulo Carvalho (Brazil) 19-6
48kg Yampier Hernandez (Cuba) d Odilon Zaleta (Mexico) RSCOS3
54kg James Pereira (Brazil) d Isho Shiba (Canada) 15-6
54kg Jose Pantaleon (Guatemala) d Maximiliano Marquez (Argentina) 9-3
54kg Carlos Cuadras (Mexico) d Ramiro Rojas (Colombia) 13-7
54kg Guillermo Rigondeaux (Cuba) d Miguel Marrero (Puerto Rico) 12-4
60kg Jose Pedraza (Puerto Rico) d Jose Virula (Guatemala) 26-7
60kg Lisandro Bolivar (Venezuela) d Jewel Lewis (Grenada) 5-3
60kg Ibrahim Kamal (Canada) d Franz Mamani (Bolivia) RSC1
60kg Everton Lopes (Brazil) d Jonathan Batista (Dom Rep) 11-10
69kg Demetrius Andrade (USA) d John Jackson (Virgin Islands) 23-5
81kg Wualfredo Rivero (Venezuela) d Shawn Terry Cox (Barbados) 9-6

emile · Post by **emile** » 20 Jul 2007, 16:12

Also here is the full draw sheets (after today's results) as they come in.

48kg
Quarterfinals
John Corona (El Salvador) vs Kevin Betancourt (Venezuela)
Carlos Ortiz (Puerto Rico) vs Patricio Calero (Ecuador)
Wilton Mendez (Dom Rep) vs Oscar Negrete (Colombia)
Luis Yanez (USA) vs Yampier Hernandez (Cuba)

54kg
Quarterfinals
Roberto Marroquin (USA) vs Claudio Marrero (Dom Rep)
Clive Atwell (Guyana) vs Klevon Denoon (T&T)
James Dean Pereira (Brazil) vs Jose Pantaleon (Guatemala)
Carlos Cuadras (Mexico) vs Guillermo Rigondeaux (Cuba)

60kg
Quarterfinals
Noe Lopez (Mexico) vs Luis Rueda (Argentina)
Darleys Perez (Colombia) vs Yordenis Ugas (Cuba)
Jose Pedraza (Puerto Rico) vs Lisandro Bolivar (Venezuela)
Ibrahim Kamal (Canada) vs Everton Lopes (Brazil)

69kg
Quarterfinals
Ricardo Smith (Jamaica) vs Erislandy Lara (Cuba)
Pedro Lima (Brazil) vs Jaime Cortez (Ecuador)
Diego Chaves (Argentina) vs Tureano Johnson (Bahamas)
Jean Prada (Venezuela) vs Demetrius Andrade (USA)

81kg
Washington Silva (Brazil) vs Christopher Downs (USA)
Yusiel Napoles (Cuba) vs Felix Valera (Dom Rep)
Julio Castillo (Ecuador) vs Carlos Negron (Puerto Rico)
Eleider Alvarez (Colombia) vs Wualfredo Rivero (Venezuela)

Roberts J · Post by **Roberts J** » 20 Jul 2007, 20:47

It will be interesting to see how USA does against Cuba.

Bostonmma · Post by **Bostonmma** » 21 Jul 2007, 11:16

Andrade will take this, and add another trophy to his case. He's the best US amateur, can't wait till he goes pro

the_boxer · Post by **the_boxer** » 21 Jul 2007, 13:39

u think even better than Rau'shee Warren , i think he's the best!

emile · Post by **emile** » 21 Jul 2007, 15:44

July 21

51kg Juan Carlos Payano (Dom Rep) d Qa'id Muhammad (USA) 19-4
51kg Yoandry Salinas (Cuba) d Juan Vega (Ecuador) RSC2
51kg Alexander Gaurecuco (Venezuela) d Robenilson Jesus (Brazil) 16-14
51kg McWilliams Arroyo (Puerto Rico) d Gustavo Navarro (Argentina) RET2
51kg William Urina (Colombia) d Bismarck Maldonado (Nicaragua) 21-5
57kg Idel Torriente (Cuba) d Jesus Cuellar (Argentina) RET2
57kg Abner Cotto (Puerto Rico) d Miguel Escandon (Colombia) 22-9
57kg Luis Del Valle (USA) d Franklin Manzanilla (Venezuela) 28-14
57kg Carlos Zambrano (Peru) d Davi Sousa (Brazil) 5-5
57kg Francisco Vargas (Mexico) d Cristian Moreno (Chile) 11-10
64kg Inocente Fiss (Cuba) d Eduardo Mendoza (Nicaragua) 18-7
64kg Felix Guzman (Dom Rep) d Gumersindo Carrasco (Argentina) RSC2
75kg Alfonso Blanco (Venezuela) d Andrew Fermin (T&T) 8-5
75kg Marco Periban (Mexico) d Ezequiel Maderna (Argentina) 12-7
75kg Emilio Correa (Cuba) d Shawn Porter (USA) KO2
91kg Deibis Julio (Colombia) d Anderson Emmanuel (Barbados) KO4
91+kg Antonio Nogueira (Brazil) d Enoch Romeo (T&T) 17-2

emile · Post by **emile** » 21 Jul 2007, 16:04

Bout Sheets

51kg
Quarterfinals
Ryan Jeffers (Guyana) v Braulio Avila (Mexico)
Eddie Valenzuela (Guatemala) v Juan Carlos Payano (Dom Rep)
Yoandry Salinas (Cuba) v Alexander Gueracuco (Venezuela)
McWilliams Arroyo (Puerto Rico) v William Urina (Colombia)

57kg
Quarterfinals
Roberto Navarro (Dom Rep) v Orlando Rizo (Nicaragua)
Nicholas Walters (Jamaica) v Idel Torriente (Cuba)
Abner Cotto (Puerto Rico) v Luis Del Valle (USA)
Carlos Zambrano (Peru) v Francisco Vargas (Mexico)

64kg
Carlos Hernandez (El Salvador) v Karl Dargan (USA)
Myke Carvalho (Brazil) v Jonny Sanchez (Venezuela)
Jonathan Gonzalez (Puerto Rico) v Luis Grajeda (Mexico)
Innocente Fiss (Cuba) v Felix Guzman (Dom Rep)

75kg
Argenis Nunez (Dom Rep) v Wiley Campfort (Haiti)
Clarence Joseph (Virgin Islands) v Glaucelio Abreu (Brazil)
Carlos Gangora (Ecuador) v Alfonso Blanco (Venezuela)
Marco Periban (Mexico) v Emilio Correa (Cuba)

91kg
Azea Augustama (Haiti) v Jorge Quinonez (Ecuador)
Adam Willett (USA) v Jose Payares (Venezuela)
Sebastian Lalumiere (Canada) v Rafael Lima (Brazil)
Osmay Acosta (Cuba) v Deibis Julio (Colombia)

91+kg
Oscar Rivas (Colombia) v Gerardo Bisbal (Puerto Rico)
Mike Wilson (USA) v Didier Bence (Canada)
Robert Alfonso (Cuba) v Cristian Cabrera (Dom Rep)
Jonny Molina (Venezuela) v Antonio Nogueira (Brazil)

emile · Post by **emile** » 22 Jul 2007, 16:31

July 22

48kg Kevin Betancourt (Venezuela) d Jhon Corona (Nicaragua) 15-2
48kg Carlos Ortiz (Puerto Rico) d Patricio Calero (Ecuador) 6-5
48kg Wilton Mendez (Dom Rep) d Oscar Negrete (Colombia) 12-3
48kg Luis Yanez (USA) d Yampier Hernandez (Cuba) 11-8
54kg Claudio Marrero (Dom Rep) d Roberto Marroquin (USA) 14-11
54kg Clive Atwell (Guyana) d Klevon Denoon (T&T) 17-12
54kg James Dean Perreira (Brazil) d Jose Pantaleon (Guatemala) 14-9
54kg Carlos Cuadras (Mexico) d Guillermo Rigondeaux (Cuba) WO
60kg Luis Rueda (Argentina) d Noe Lopez (Mexico) 14-3
60kg Yordenis Ugas (Cuba) d Darleys Perez (Colombia) 8-4
60kg Jose Pedraza (Puerto Rico) d Lisandro Bolivar (Venezuela) 15-6
60kg Everton Lopes (Brazil) d Ibrahim Kamal (Canada) 10-3
69kg Ricardo Smith (Jamaica) d Erislandi Lara (Cuba) WO
69kg Pedro Lima (Brazil) d Jaime Cortez (Ecuador) 13-3
69kg Diego Chaves (Argentina) d Tureano Johnson (Bahamas) 9-6
69kg Demetrius Andrade (USA) d Jean Prada (Venezuela) RSCOS3
81kg Christopher Downs (USA) d Washington Silva (Brazil) 12-5
81kg Yusiel Napoles (Cuba) d Felix Valera (Dom Rep) RSCH2
81kg Julio Castillo (Ecuador) d Carlos Negron (Puerto Rico) 15-5
81kg Eleider Alvarez (Colombia) d Wualfredo Rivero (Venezuela) 13-4

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 22 Jul 2007, 18:01

I'm impressed with Yanez winning the rematch against the Cuban. He may get a medal, possibly the gold and be one of the guys to have a legitimate shot at an Olympic medal depending on the draw. It would really be nice if the Olympics was a double elimination so that even if the two best boxers face each other in the prelimany round the loser could still have a shot at a medal.

emile · Post by **emile** » 22 Jul 2007, 18:35

I'm not sure what the Cubans are doing at 48. Andry Laffita, who won the silver at 51kg at the last World Champs, has been doing a lot of fighting at 48kg, but I don't know what he's up to. He'd be a sterner test for Yanez, but, nonetheless, this is a big win for Luis.

emile · Post by **emile** » 22 Jul 2007, 18:52

Solid win for Downs. Don't know if others are able to watch these fights on TV, but Downs was tied going into the final round and outpointed Silva 7-0 in the 4th.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 22 Jul 2007, 18:55

Emile - the score should not have been 5-5 going into the 4th. Downs should have had a comfortable lead. The judging was pathetic. They were not giving him credit for punches he was landing.

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 23 Jul 2007, 10:40

57kg Carlos Zambrano (Peru) d Davi Sousa (Brazil) 5-5

This result has been changed after an official protest by the brazilian delegation. Apparently the computer made a mistake taking into account all five judges score in the countback, giving the win to Zambrano, but only the three closest scores should be taken into consideration and this way the win goes to Souza who now fights mexican Francisco Vargas for a medal.

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 23 Jul 2007, 10:42

Dennis wrote:I'm impressed with Yanez winning the rematch against the Cuban. He may get a medal, possibly the gold and be one of the guys to have a legitimate shot at an Olympic medal depending on the draw.

I was not impressed with Yanez despite him beating a cuban. Yampier Hernandez was nothing special and I'm sure Andry Laffita will replace him for the World Championships. I'll be highly surprised if Yanez wins gold here.

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 23 Jul 2007, 10:46

I was impressed with Demetrius Andrade whom I had never seen before. With Lara out he looks a lock for gold. Also Downs was impressive in his victory over one of Brazil's best hopes. Downs didn't look good in the qualifiers but seems to be improving. However Yusiel Napoles looked good too and remains my choice for gold.
Ugas was a class act and should win here despite some close losses this year.

ricky_old · Post by **ricky_old** » 23 Jul 2007, 11:53

Hi locoxelbox:
I agree with you, about Demetrius Andrade, the absence of Lara makes him a favorite to fight for the gold but don't forget Pedro Lima of Brazil. That I think will be the fight for the gold medal and it's not going to be easy for neither one.
Regards, Ricky

emile · Post by **emile** » 23 Jul 2007, 12:03

The USA is very underrated at that weight. Besides Andrade, there are two other fighters who have quality victories in international competition. I expect Andrade will win the gold in this tournament, and the US will medal at this weight in Beijing.

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 23 Jul 2007, 12:27

Hi Ricky: I have taped the Lima bout and will watch it later. However he lost last year to Jean Carlos Prada in a very tough battle here in Argentina, the same Prada that was outclassed against Andrade, so I keep Andrade as the favorite.
I was very dissapointed with Carlos Negron whom I had heard good things about. He lost to a fighter that wasn't one of the medal favorite and looked ordinary.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 23 Jul 2007, 13:05

Apparently the computer made a mistake taking into account all five judges score in the countback, giving the win to Zambrano, but only the three closest scores should be taken into consideration

Unless the German computer they are using at the Pan Ams automatically tosses out the high and the low scores, yes, all 5 judges scores were part of the accepted score. If the Powers That Be decided during this tournament to score using other criteria, there were obviously the only ones who were aware of this. Sorry, but this type of crap really irritates me. Sounds to me like the Peru boxer got screwed by politics. From everything I've read, the criteria of taking the raw score and tossing out the high and the low will not even be implemented until after Beijing. If this criteria is being tested at the Pan Ams, they picked a poor place to do so since shipments to other countries have been suspended because there are bugs.

Broncano · Post by **Broncano** » 23 Jul 2007, 14:04

boxmel wrote:
Apparently the computer made a mistake taking into account all five judges score in the countback, giving the win to Zambrano, but only the three closest scores should be taken into consideration
Unless the German computer they are using at the Pan Ams automatically tosses out the high and the low scores, yes, all 5 judges scores were part of the accepted score. If the Powers That Be decided during this tournament to score using other criteria, there were obviously the only ones who were aware of this. Sorry, but this type of crap really irritates me. Sounds to me like the Peru boxer got screwed by politics. From everything I've read, the criteria of taking the raw score and tossing out the high and the low will not even be implemented until after Beijing. If this criteria is being tested at the Pan Ams, they picked a poor place to do so since shipments to other countries have been suspended because there are bugs.

Absolute B.S. that they did this.
I am most certain that if it was the Brazilian boxer that was at the other end the result wouldn't have been overturned.
Brazilian boxing is rotten to the core... all their authorities are good for is producing fighters with either fictitious or inflated records and cashing out on them when they get to the pros.

emile · Post by **emile** » 23 Jul 2007, 16:26

July 23

51kg Braulio Avila (Mexico) d Ryan Jeffers (Guyana) 12-4
51kg Juan Carlos Payano (Dom Rep) d Eddie Valenzuela (Guatemala) 10-5
51kg Yoandry Salinas (Cuba) d Alexander Guarecuco (Venezuela) 35-12
51kg McWilliams Arroyo (Puerto Rico) d William Urina (Colombia) 16-7
57kg Orlando Rizo (Nicaragua) d Roberto Navarro (Dom Rep) 19-17
57kg Idel Torriente (Cuba) d Nicholas Walters (Jamaica) 18-1
57kg Abner Cotto (Puerto Rico) d Luis Del Valle (USA) 13-9
57kg Davi Souza (Brazil) d Francisco Vargas (Mexico) 16-13
64kg Karl Dargan (USA) d Carlos Hernandez (El Salvador) WO
64kg Myke Carvalho (Brazil) d Jonny Sanchez (Venezuela) 19-4
64kg Jonathan Gonzalez (Puerto Rico) d Luis Grajeda (Mexico) 20-6
64kg Innocente Fiss (Cuba) d Felix Guzman (Dom Rep) 13-12
75kg Argenis Nunez (Dom Rep) d Wilky Campfort (Haiti) 15-6
75kg Glaucelio Abreu (Brazil) d Clarence Joseph (Virgin Islands) 13-12
75kg Carlos Gangora (Ecuador) d Alfonso Blanco (Venezuela) 20-6
75kg Emilio Correa (Cuba) d Marco Periban (Mexico) 34-10
91kg Jorge Quinonez (Ecuador) d Azea Augustama (Haiti) 8-2
91kg Jose Payares (Venezuela) d Adam Willett (USA) 12-8
91kg Rafael Lima (Brazil) d Sebastian Lalumiere (Canada) 18-5
91kg Osmay Acosta (Cuba) d Deibis Julio (Colombia) 10-2
91+kg Oscar Rivas (Colombia) d Gerardo Bisbal (Puerto Rico) 22-8
91+kg Didier Bence (Canada) d Mike Wilson (USA) RSCH3
91+kg Robert Alfonso (Cuba) d Cristian Cabrera (Dom Rep) 8-2
91+kg Antonio Nogueira (Brazil) d Jonny Molina (Venezuela) 18-6

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 23 Jul 2007, 17:13

Any idea why Dargan got a walk over?????????

emile · Post by **emile** » 23 Jul 2007, 17:21

Carlos Hernandez defected from El Salvador

:)

Probably just came in fat.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 23 Jul 2007, 17:49

Emile, you are too totally funny! :P BTW, where IS Pain City????

Yeah, it's either didn't make weight or a medical - just wondering which.

zhdamistro · Post by **zhdamistro** » 23 Jul 2007, 20:22

what happened to shawn porter. weird seeing he got knocked out. anybody know if it was a bad knockout that could hamper his career.