What is the fastest Knock out in Amateur history?

The_Real_Deal · Post by **The_Real_Deal** » 25 Jul 2007, 13:54

Just wondering my kid has just had his second amateur fight sunday and scored a 19 second knock out. does anybody know what the fastest Knock out is?? or where I could find out this information?

Kolya · Post by **Kolya** » 25 Jul 2007, 14:06

The_Real_Deal wrote:Just wondering my kid has just had his second amateur fight sunday and scored a 19 second knock out. does anybody know what the fastest Knock out is?? or where I could find out this information?

Damn man, you're really proud of your kid. He made a lot of improvements, huh?

The_Real_Deal · Post by **The_Real_Deal** » 25 Jul 2007, 14:10

Hell yeah I am proud of him I was just wondering becuase the owner of my gym said he thought that might be a record, but I thought I heard of a 8 second knock out before I could be wrong though.

jtyson · Post by **jtyson** » 25 Jul 2007, 14:23

Savon KOd Tua in like 16 seconds or something

emile · Post by **emile** » 25 Jul 2007, 14:28

There was an 11 second knockout in this year's Golden Gloves.

The_Real_Deal · Post by **The_Real_Deal** » 25 Jul 2007, 14:40

Thanks guys

here is a link to his fight, he was sloppy at first but finished once I told him to cut that shit out.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=M4DETs1roMw

Roberts J · Post by **Roberts J** » 25 Jul 2007, 15:14

I think Tyson, holds it in, 6 seconds.

JohnDoe · Post by **JohnDoe** » 25 Jul 2007, 18:14

Is this from Bum Fights because your kid got one shot in on a certified BUM!

Stop talking about your records and go train!

Kolya · Post by **Kolya** » 25 Jul 2007, 18:46

JohnDoe wrote:Is this from Bum Fights because your kid got one shot in on a certified BUM!

Stop talking about your records and go train!

So I suppose you were sticking, moving, and outclassing opponents in your first 2 fights, huh, Sugar Ray?

JohnDoe · Post by **JohnDoe** » 25 Jul 2007, 19:09

No and I wasn't bragging about it on BoxRec and YouTube either.

And my name isn't Sugar Ray. It's Sweet Sugar with Cream Ray.

The_Real_Deal · Post by **The_Real_Deal** » 25 Jul 2007, 19:10

JohnDoe wrote:Is this from Bum Fights because your kid got one shot in on a certified BUM!

Stop talking about your records and go train!

of course we train each and every day, but you must give credit that was a one shot knock out rarely does this happen in the amateurs, and unless you have a video of yourself fighting STFU

thevanillagorilla · Post by **thevanillagorilla** » 26 Jul 2007, 09:12

JohnDoe wrote:Is this from Bum Fights because your kid got one shot in on a certified BUM!

Stop talking about your records and go train!

Have some respect and quit trolling the boards. You are coming off as the real bum, bum.

thevanillagorilla · Post by **thevanillagorilla** » 26 Jul 2007, 16:16

Mods, get John doe outta here please. Total disrespect for someone's child. Uncalled for and no apology as of yet.

delisa · Post by **delisa** » 27 Jul 2007, 10:22

Referee Alan Sugar scored two 6-second kayos as an amateur.

Google it for the info!

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 27 Jul 2007, 11:44

Real Deal - I just watched the tape. One of our Southern California shows, I see. What club are you with?

It was not a KO as in Referee Stops Contest Due to Headblows (RSCH) with a 30 day restriction. It was a RSC - Referee Stops Contest because he didn't feel the boxer should continue. The announcer stated it was a "TKO" which translates into RSC in amateur language.

RSC's happen a lot when you have novice boxers competing. Amateur refs are taught to err on the side of safety so a boxer can return to box another day rather than letting a bout go too long and have a boxer actually get hurt.

The_Real_Deal · Post by **The_Real_Deal** » 27 Jul 2007, 12:49

I am with Alhambra boxing, I know the RSC, but when you watch the video even after the ref stopped the fight, when the kid came over to our corner he was still out on his feet watch his legs through the entire Video he was knocked out seriously.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 27 Jul 2007, 13:04

but when you watch the video even after the ref stopped the fight, when the kid came over to our corner he was still out on his feet watch his legs through the entire Video he was knocked out seriously.

I did watch the video and, based on my 20 years of experience as an official, my opinion is that he was not "seriously knocked out." Seriously knocked out means on the canvas and out - unable to get up. He reacted immediately, stood up during the 8 count and I didn't see him wobble.

The_Real_Deal · Post by **The_Real_Deal** » 27 Jul 2007, 13:23

Look at his eyes

Watch his legs as he comes to our corner after the fight to shake hands he falls into the ropes Mrs.

The_Real_Deal · Post by **The_Real_Deal** » 27 Jul 2007, 13:26

boxmel wrote:
but when you watch the video even after the ref stopped the fight, when the kid came over to our corner he was still out on his feet watch his legs through the entire Video he was knocked out seriously.
I did watch the video and, based on my 20 years of experience as an official, my opinion is that he was not "seriously knocked out." Seriously knocked out means on the canvas and out - unable to get up. He reacted immediately, stood up during the 8 count and I didn't see him wobble.

You know though you are an official correct? so I will take that opinion of yours, However he was in no condition to continue when you look at the whole video the kid was seriously wobbled the ref did a great job I am shocked that the kids corner didnt bring an ice bag which is required according to the rules and I am even more shocked that they didnt throw in the towel when they saw how hurt he was that early with 2 and a half rounds left to go.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 27 Jul 2007, 14:13

Thanks, Real Deal. I didn't see anything in the pictures that would change my opinion. Most boxers close their eyes when they get hit; some even keep their eyes closed when they are boxing.

However he was in no condition to continue; the kid was seriously wobbled

Then I guess the referee erred in not calling it an RSCH with a 30-day restriction.

I am shocked that the kids corner didnt bring an ice bag which is required according to the rules

An ice bag is not a mandatory piece of equipment. See the following from the USA Boxing rule book:

"Every coach working in a boxer’s corner should (not "must") have the following: first aid supplies, two clean white towels, sterile gauze pads, sterile cotton, cotton swabs and ice bag with ice. (a) The above-referenced items are the “maximum” equipment a coach may have in the corner."

The_Real_Deal · Post by **The_Real_Deal** » 27 Jul 2007, 14:22

An ice bag is not a mandatory piece of equipment. See the following from the USA Boxing rule book:

"Every coach working in a boxer’s corner should (not "must") have the following: first aid supplies, two clean white towels, sterile gauze pads, sterile cotton, cotton swabs and ice bag with ice. (a) The above-referenced items are the “maximum” equipment a coach may have in the corner."[/quote]

That is perhaps something I took to seriously then, I made sure after reading that in the rule book that I have with me everything just to be safe these kids depend on us to look out for their saftey as they do not get paid to fight.
I looked at the pass book of my fighter and it did say in the book RSCH so perhaps the announcer got it wrong either way I am worried about that other kid, is this normal? I was seriously going to call his gym to check up on him really nice kid.
Anyhow I just browsed your site, Good site there I wish there were more sites regarding Amateur boxing.
I will be sure to ask you any questions I might have in the future its always good to know from experienced people such as yourself.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 27 Jul 2007, 15:13

I wish there were more coaches like you who would take the "should" and the "mays" into consideration for the safety of the boxer.

Sheesh - you even read the rule book! Most of our coaches never do. If you feel the need to call Charles William's gym and ask about his boxer, please do. I'm sure Charles and the boxer would both feel appreciative. And I'm sure he'll be okay. That's the main reason why we give 30 day restrictions - to make sure a boxer is okay before competing again.

However, I still don't consider it a real knock out.

The_Real_Deal · Post by **The_Real_Deal** » 27 Jul 2007, 15:20

boxmel wrote:

However, I still don't consider it a real knock out.

kevin1 · Post by **kevin1** » 27 Jul 2007, 16:24

Interesting discussion on the subject of a "knockout." The boxer was truly hurt based on what I could see from the video and the referee correctly stopped this novice bout. I am not sure if the "knockout" being talked about was actually 11 seconds since it was at least that when the punch landed plus considering that the 8-count was administered it thus follows that it was more like 20 seconds. However, all things considered the goal of amateur boxing is NOT to knockout your opponent but to OUTSCORE you opponent. It is almost impossible to knockout a good accomplished amateur boxer within the four round distance. Think about it - if anyone was going for the "knockout" against a Cuban or Russian, they would spend four rounds swatting at the air

. I am not trying to knock the accoplishments of your novice boxer, and it was a well-deserved win for which he should be proud, but as he (and if he) moves up the amateur ranks he will find that "knockouts" are far, few between, and actually rare. You deserve a pat on the back for actually reading the rulebook because I can tell you that 90% of amateur boxing coaches don't really know the rules, or wouldn't know the rulebook if it hit them in the face

. Can you imagine a baseball coach not knowing the strike zone, the distance of the bases, what base a runner should run to first, etc, and only telling his athlete to swing for the fences and after that you are on your own?

This is the predicament an athlete is put in when his/her coach remains iliterate to the rules of the game. Well, as long as coaches refuse to learn, or don't take the time to learn the rules, then their athletes will be at a disadvantage. I am NOT saying a coach has to be an "expert," but he/she should have a good working knowledge of the rules. Again, I am glad to see that you are taking the time to familarize yourself with the rules. and hopefully more coaches out there will likewise take the time. 8)

The_Real_Deal · Post by **The_Real_Deal** » 27 Jul 2007, 16:43

I expect any coach to know the rules, but I understand that this isnt always the case in the sport, I read the rules for myself becuase I figure its the only way I myself can improve as a coach. I also beleive that saftey comes first regarding the fighters, and I will go to the grave with that.
But I had no idea just how many people are in this sport as a coach or even an official who do not take the time to read and understand the rules, I always ask questions even if they sound stupid its better to ask and find out than to not ask and assume you know.
But the way I approached this comming in as a coach was that I educated myself fully regarding rules and regulations and saftey of the sport. I read that book almost every day just bits at a time not like I am in front of it the entire day but I do grab it and read a section or two in my down time at home.

What is the fastest Knock out in Amateur history?

What is the fastest Knock out in Amateur history?

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